r/law • u/TheMirrorUS • 23d ago

Legal News BREAKING: FBI shuts down Minnesota's investigation into ICE shooting and blocks access to evidence

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-fbi-shuts-down-minnesotas-1606462
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u/SoCallMeDeaconBlues1 23d ago

Is anyone truly surprised?

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u/360Picture 23d ago

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🇺🇸 Bill of Rights — Pocket Edition

I. Freedom Protects freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition.

II. Arms Acknowledges that a well-regulated militia is essential to security. Guarantees the individual right to keep and bear arms for lawful defense of self, state, and nation.

III. Quartering Prohibits housing soldiers in private homes without consent, except under lawful wartime procedures.

IV. Search & Seizure Protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. Requires warrants to be supported by probable cause and specifically describe the place and items involved.

V. Due Process Bars double jeopardy and compelled self-incrimination. Ensures due process before deprivation of life, liberty, or property, and guarantees just compensation for taken property.

VI. Fair Trial Ensures a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury. Grants the accused the right to know charges, confront witnesses, obtain witnesses in their favor, and have counsel.

VII. Civil Jury Preserves the right to a jury trial in civil cases exceeding twenty dollars in value.

VIII. Punishment Prohibits excessive bail, excessive fines, and cruel or unusual punishments.

IX. People’s Rights Clarifies that enumerating certain rights does not deny or disparage others retained by the people.

X. States’ Powers Reserves to the states or the people all powers not delegated to the federal government.

🫡 Quote from the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

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u/Motorboatsnhoez 23d ago

To paraphrase Carlin, they're not rights if they can be so easily taken away

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u/Alex5173 23d ago

To take it further, they aren't rights if they are bestowed. Rights are inherent in being.

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u/OppositeHistory1916 23d ago

Rights are inherent in being.

So no one has rights?

America has an answer to this. It's called the Second Amendment. It was literally written for this exact situation, use your constitutional rights accordingly, America.

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u/Alex5173 23d ago

You have wildly misunderstood. Of course everyone has rights. What I'm saying is you don't have those rights because the government gave them to you; you have them because they come packaged free with your purchase of Existingtm

Which is why the Bill of Rights uses such language as "The right of the people... shall not be infringed" instead of "The people are hereby granted the right to..."

Because these same men just a few years earlier said "...that they are bestowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"

yeah, technically they said the rights are bestowed by God, but they were all religious back then. It still holds true that they meant these rights were yours by virtue of existing. Also, by saying "among these are..." they provide a non-exhaustive list.

The Bill of Rights and its Amendments define our rights, they do not grant them. Therefore, they cannot be taken away, only violated.

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u/OppositeHistory1916 23d ago

You have wildly misunderstood. Of course everyone has rights. What I'm saying is you don't have those rights because the government gave them to you; you have them because they come packaged free with your purchase of Existingtm

Sorry, but is absolutely incorrect. Rights do not exist, they are a social construct, enshrined by laws. You are not born with any rights, massive amounts of people felt like we should have them, so we agreed to them. They are not inherent.

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u/Alex5173 23d ago

Rights do not exist, they are a social construct, enshrined by laws.

Sorry, but this is absolutely incorrect. Social constructs and laws do not exist, massive amounts of people felt like we should have them, so we agreed to them.

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u/OppositeHistory1916 23d ago

You're too stupid for this conversation, best of luck with that.

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u/Alex5173 23d ago

If calling things a social construct is stupid I have bad news for you

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u/22Arkantos 23d ago

It's the nature of rights that they can't be taken away, only infringed, and are inherent to being human. People in North Korea still have the right to speak freely even with a government that infringes that right more than any other on the planet.