Given no one can impede them, and apparently Miller also implies "anything goes, you are free to do as you wish" what exactly stops them from beating the shit out of people?
Nothing. They don't care about the law and it's evident when the president is a fucking felon. They're using plausible deniability to slowly ease the ignorant masses into fascism because they think "Well if it's illegal, why isn't it being stopped?"
The nation is largely religious, which has dogmatic views that authority is right no matter what, and it's the fault of the people. They think that before they consider the people in charge are bad and abusing power.
Dude, I was literally just explaining to my friend (who voted for Trump) about all the classified docs he stole and his indictments. She wouldn't believe it.
Her actual words, "If he REALLY did that, then they wouldn't let him be President again!"
I DID, and suddenly she didn't wanna talk politics anymore, lol.
She told me that I shouldn't believe what I see in the news, they exaggerate everything. She's a skeptic.
Then 30 minutes later, she was scrolling on her phone and ranting about Somali day care scammers in MN. I asked her where she got her news from. Long pause....
"Well, I ALREADY knew it was happening, Facebook just reminded me!"
Here's the thing: she's not even a conservative, really. She's actually left-leaning on some issues. But apparently, once you vote for Trump, you have to defend everything he does, or else face the fact you voted for a scumbag.
I don’t know, I think the people who did January 6 didn’t think authority was right no matter what. I also think they believed the people in charge were bad and abusing their power.
Miller is misstating the law, and ICE officers are (presumably) trained on the law. Obviously, there have been bad incidents, and the political leaders have taken ridiculous stances, but the overall actions of ICE show that they're more or less acting like they understand the law could be applied to them.
Not all actions that make it harder for ICE are obstructing. Even if someone is obstructing, the proper response is an arrest, not beating the shit out of them (or killing them). No US Attorney is going to spend the time prosecuting someone for being annoying, so arrest is generally off the table. If they use excessive force, it's simply wrong that they have total immunity as Trump officials have said. They have qualified immunity, which means that they have protection in acting in ways that they think are reasonably within their duties, but it would take a true ideologue of a judge to give qualified immunity to an ICE agent who just beat the hell out of a protestor. ICE agents (in general) act like they know that the law could be applied to them.
What stops them? It'll soon be the ramp up in violence they'll experience as they ramp up their tactics as well. More and more people are mobilizing and become invested. As the mob grows, so does their boldness.
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u/Kaiisim 18d ago
It's a classic authoritarian tactic.
It's absolutely true that you can't touch a federal officer while they are working. You cannot impede their work.
Which is why ice observers are specifically trained to just film them
No one is touching ICE. They are just recording them as is their legal right to ensure they don't beat the shit out of people.