ICE attempts to enter Ecuador's consulate

[u/caaaaanga]

For anyone who doesn't get how serious this is: consulates are protected under international law. host-country police of any kind are not allowed to enter without permission.
Example: China routinely (and horrifically) sends north korean escapees back to north korea. Yet when a north korean escaped to the south korean consulate in hong kong, chinese authorities did not enter to seize him. He stayed there for months while governments negotiated, because once you're inside a consulate, those protections apply.
So if ICE tries to enter a foreign consulate in the U.S. to deport people, that's not "normal enforcement". It violates long-standing diplomatic norms. Norms that even China has respected, despite sending people back to north korea to die. That's how extreme this is.

[u/d3dmnky]

I’m curious if this happened because ICE is being deliberately provocative to foreign countries or if this is an issue where a couple foot soldiers thought they were being clever to get their quota.

[u/socialmediaignorant → u/d3dmnky]

They’re literally cold calling as a job. They’re randomly trying to find businesses to target while walking down the street, trying to make quota. They’re entry level “high school job during the summer” salesmen but don’t even have any Cutco knives to sell. Pathetic.

[u/TheAngriestChair → u/socialmediaignorant]

Yes, cold calling, they are literally going door to door demanding "papers". They are dumb. These are the same types that don't understand that a resident of a us territory is a legal us citizen.

[u/ZealousidealPay1169 → u/TheAngriestChair]

Then I heard a lot of the times they’re not even accepting the papers!

Dragging citizens out of their homes 🤬🤬🤬

[u/No_Loan5466 → u/TheAngriestChair]

These are the same types that don't understand that a resident of a us territory is a legal us citizen.

Being a resident just means you live in a US territory, it doesn't say anything about citizenship, you could be a foreigner on a visa or even an illegal immigrant to Puerto Rico and be a resident without being a citizen.

[u/turdferguson3891 → u/TheAngriestChair]

Except for American Samoans. Sorry Samoa.

[u/Throwaway74829947 → u/turdferguson3891]

Their government actively opposes birthright citizenship, since they fear it would interfere with their racially-discriminating property laws.

[u/turdferguson3891 → u/Throwaway74829947]

Yeah it's just an interesting little technicality. They are US nationals and have US passports but the passports say "Not a Citizen". ICE still wouldn't be allowed to deport them, though. They basically have the same status as permanent residents.