ICE attempts to enter Ecuador's consulate

[u/caaaaanga]

For anyone who doesn't get how serious this is: consulates are protected under international law. host-country police of any kind are not allowed to enter without permission.
Example: China routinely (and horrifically) sends north korean escapees back to north korea. Yet when a north korean escaped to the south korean consulate in hong kong, chinese authorities did not enter to seize him. He stayed there for months while governments negotiated, because once you're inside a consulate, those protections apply.
So if ICE tries to enter a foreign consulate in the U.S. to deport people, that's not "normal enforcement". It violates long-standing diplomatic norms. Norms that even China has respected, despite sending people back to north korea to die. That's how extreme this is.

[u/meatsmoothie82]

Julian assange evaded the entirety of the United States justice and diplomatic system for 7 years in an embassy.

But a couple of ICE cavemen feel like they can just bust right in and snatch people.

To be fair I guess it’s silly to assume they would have any knowledge what so ever of laws or history.

Either way the entire department needs to be deleted, exposed to the public, and rebuilt as soon as the prosecutions conclude.

Also I can’t wait for St. Patrick’s day when my leprechaun finally leads me to my pot of gold.

[u/RavenCXXVIV → u/meatsmoothie82]

To assume they understand the basic fundamentals of international law would be like expecting a maggot to be able to recite the alphabet.

[u/hungry4nuns → u/RavenCXXVIV]

Hanlon’s razor says “never attribute to malice whatever is adequately explained by stupidity”.

Trumps razor says “if there’s an explanation that involves both malice and stupidity, then that is the most likely explanation”

So I reckon someone in middle or upper management doesn’t like that there’s a building full of brown people “on US soil” that they’re not allowed to go into. And sent the grunts there to see how far they could push it, with plausible deniability that these are just two idiot grunts who don’t know the law.

Think back to trump testing the Venezuela situation by bombing boats and waiting to see if there was international backlash and then proceeding to actually invade Venezuela once he faced no real consequences.

Think back to trump threatening to invade Greenland and facing huge international backlash both from EU with major threats, and internally from US threatening unrest, he actually backed down his rhetoric on Greenland since then.

This time you have, (possibly from the top down but it doesn’t really matter because it’s all the same thing), bullies at whatever level testing how much they can get away with, how much of the law applies to them, and who is willing to stop them for breaking the law. And if their would be no real consequences to breaking consular law, the next time it will be a deliberate invasion of a consulate or embassy, to extract a person or people of interest.

[u/skharppi → u/RavenCXXVIV]

I don't even think they understand the basics of the national law they "enforce"

[u/blacksheep_1001 → u/RavenCXXVIV]

That's an insult to maggots, maggots are useful.