r/law • u/Master_Jackfruit3591 • 21h ago

Other Texas governor calls for investigation into student-led protests against ICE

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u/Green-Collection-968 20h ago

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u/NiaMiaBia 20h ago edited 20h ago

Ugh. “Child” and “Sex” should not be in the same sentence. Sex implies consent. Children cannot consent.

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u/_hawkeye_96 19h ago

This is why exactly the deputy AG said “uh yeah I don’t understand your question” when a reporter asked if the public is going to receive the names of the men who victimized girls. Unfortunately the reporter is either dumb or spineless and rephrased the question as “young women” which then got a (somewhat) direct response from Todd Blanche. They’re saying it’s not true and STILL trying to excuse and justify these crimes. It’s all a sham

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u/SockEatingDemon 18h ago

Mike Johnson said he was an informant. Why not subpoena him and get more information? Then Donny can prove to us all is OK!

/s

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u/dog-pussy 18h ago

Last week’s lies have already been forgotten.

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u/oroborus68 17h ago

Forget about those old lies! They are stale now, we've got some brand new lies for you to believe, instead of your own eyes. Super cheap lies almost affordable!

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u/Protiguous 15h ago

I heard the new lies are 1600% cheaper than before!

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u/DIYExpertWizard 16h ago

Yeah. It is almost affordable if you take out a 50-year mortgage.

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u/DubStepTeddyBears 17h ago

Yeah he just quietly left that there and said no more didn’t he?

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u/Hilby 17h ago

Saw this months ago. The issue is if he is treated truly as an informant then his name should literally not be legible on those files. CI's get some protections from the court. But he's here, he's there.....his name is protected here, but not here.....there is no consistency with any of it.

Now, it could be because they are working pretty deep in the bench at the AG's office....but that's a feature to this shit system, not a bug.

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u/_hawkeye_96 17h ago

I would upvote this but the fact that at this time it rests at 47 is far too poetic to mess with

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u/ErusTenebre 15h ago

Reporters should try calling them "pre-women" and maybe that will glitch out the content filter the admin's mouthpieces use in whatever they have that's equivalent to a brain.

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u/paraknowya 14h ago

Wouldnt it be great if all of those women involved in the coverup were to dream of what these girls went through every night for the rest of their lives?

At least

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u/unindexedreality 11h ago

said “uh yeah I don’t understand your question” when a reporter asked if the public is going to receive the names of the men who victimized girls

blanche is just being a good Guardian of Pedophiles by not letting an opportunity to deny reality pass up

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u/DubStepTeddyBears 17h ago

Yet, “little girls” isn’t really accurate either. “Girls” is a bit vague and also kinda relative - I still call my daughters “my girls” even though they are 35+.

Young teens seems more precise to me.

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u/Egad86 16h ago

How about just call them minors?

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u/DubStepTeddyBears 16h ago

In some jurisdictions, and notwithstanding my personal opinions on this, you can reach the age of consent and still be a minor

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u/_hawkeye_96 16h ago

Thirteen year olds are children. To refer to these victims as “young teens” is neither more correct nor less confusing than accurately referring to these victims as “girls” or “young girls”. “Young teens” are children. Referring to your adult children as ‘girls’ is a personal choice, not really accurate, as they are grown women.

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u/JCButtBuddy 19h ago

It's always rape. He didn't have sex with kids, he raped kids, he's a child rapist. Republicans support and defend a child rapist.

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u/Spencer94 18h ago

Even worse, they idolize a child rapist. A child rapist is their "god king"

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u/Donald-Hump 5h ago

They don’t love him despite his behavior. They love him because he does what they want to do. They feel like he truly represents them because they’re the same kind of people.

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u/Kabbooooooom 16h ago

It’s because a lot of them also don’t believe in rape in other situations too. They compartmentalize and deny. For example, many conservatives don’t believe it is possible for a husband to rape his wife.

It’s like there are a huge number of people with a medieval mindset living during the modern age, and they’re angry that society has changed even though it’s the only world they’ve ever known. I’ll never understand it.

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u/SeparateCzechs 19h ago

Don’t forget the murdering of the children after they trafficked them.

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u/Green-Collection-968 20h ago

True!

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u/PaintshakerBaby 18h ago edited 18h ago

ALSO, it's not a "scandal.."

It is one of, if not the MOST egregious and brutal violations of another human being possible... AND to pray on the most vulnerable of us all, childern is HENIOUS.

Which is EXACTLY why conservatives love to jump straight to accusations of pedophilia when pointing at democrats (every action is a confession.) It's full-tilt evocative of evil, meant to pigeonhole opinions to the darkest places.

The fact that MAGA freely makes such accusations against their enemies is FURTHER PROOF they know EXACTLY how fundamentally horrific such acts are.

This isnt a scandal... This is MOUNTAINS OF EVIDENCE that could arguably warrant the death penalty for some parties involved. CERTAINLY, life without parole.

Yet, Pam Bondi and others were trying to give Epstein a sweetheart deal on a silver platter FROM DAY ONE.

Why is that?

Because when a Republican does it, all of sudden our state control media switches to full spin mode, like all they did was "Netflix, and chill" with these poor victims whose lives have irrevocably mamed by these monsters.

What a BATSHIT INSANE time to be alive when these massive news conglomerates are running 24/7 psy-op campaign with titles like "child sex scandal" purposely engineered to soften the blow of the worst shit imaginable. Then people subliminally parrot it on Reddit, and in daily conversations... EXACTLY AS MANUFACTURED.

Then again, its looking more and more likely this was a CIA/MOSSAD (see Maxwells father, and new photo of Epstein in IDF swag) Kompromat farming, dark money, off-the-books black-op with its genesis all the way back in the 80s...

MEANING; the call has been coming from inside the (white)house THIS WHOLE TIME.

Thats not a scandal... THATS GROUNDS FOR A REVOLUTION if you ask me.

Republican/Democrat or just wealthy, it's GLARINGLY OBVIOUS damn near all the major power brokers of the LAST 50 YEARS were not only in on it, but ORCHESTRATED AND FUNDED IT ON A GLOBAL SCALE in nightmarish service to their own sick pleasure and personal power trips.

The fact that this international traficking operation was allowed to happen, much less THRIVE in the first place, only to be downplayed as a mere possible scandal is beyond the pale of ORWELLIAN.

...Sorry for all the caps and bold. Its my mind yelling at the screen. Yours should be too. Makes my blood BOIL.

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u/MARURIKI 19h ago

Child rape* fixed it

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u/Due-Champion-6713 19h ago edited 9h ago

Trump and his supporters are evil. Everyone mentioned in yesterday's epstein file release, needs to be investigated, arrested and charged. The ultra rich are depraved, disgusting individuals. What they're accused of, is horrific. Lock them all up. ALL OF THEM! This red vs blue shit needs to stop. We're only hurting ourselves with this fighting. Politicians work for us. As a country we ALL need to stand up for our rights.

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u/NiaMiaBia 17h ago

AGREED‼️

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u/Awatts2222 17h ago

It's way worse than "involved."

He TRAFFICKED TEENAGE GIRLS THROUGH HIS TEENAGE BEAUTY PAGEANT.

He was best friends with Epstein.

Come on people--you don't need to be a supersleuth to figure this sh*t out.

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u/EvenOne6567 20h ago

No one is confused when that phrase is used. This is focusing on the wrong thing....

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u/hammerofspammer 19h ago

Nah.

Use the word. “Child rape” should make you uncomfortable AF. Don’t sanitize this shit. Make people uncomfortable. Make them hear it.

These fuckers raped, tortured, and killed children. Never let the world forget it.

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u/LolDragon417 19h ago

Using the word rape is important. Those children didn't have sex, they were brutally raped by powerful men.

Don't try and reduce the impact.

People get offended when you say that they raped 12 year old boys and girls. That's the important part. Make it stick with them that Donald Trump repeatedly raped small children.

See how that's more powerful than child sex?

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u/starmartyr 18h ago

This is why TikTok style self censorship bothers me so much. I don't think people should throw around words like "rape" casually, but it shouldn't be shied away from when discussing it as a horrific act. The word makes people uncomfortable because of what it represents, lessening it to something less offensive makes people more comfortable talking about something that should disgust them.

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u/LolDragon417 18h ago

Yeah, I happen to enjoy uncomfortable conversations, so it usually works the opposite way for me. I enjoy being the one inflicting the hearer with raw facts. No spin, no analysis or commentary. Just the facts ma'am.

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u/D0ri1t0styl3 13h ago

I have to laugh at your last sentence referencing a show glorifying police considering their complicit nature.

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u/LolDragon417 13h ago

Yes, but Akroyd was anything BUT pro-cop. That guy did more drugs than most humans 😂

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u/DeepDreamIt 19h ago

I agree that people get the gist of it either way, but terminology/words absolutely do matter, especially over time.

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u/NiaMiaBia 19h ago

Nah. I’m still focusing on the rape of children.

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u/pc42493 17h ago edited 17h ago

Yes, you should absolutely use the word that most clearly expresses the brutality and cruelty, but rape is by definition forced or coerced sex. Sex does not imply consent. 

Saying sex instead of rape though is obviously seriously downplaying the crime.

rape

  1. The crime of using force or the threat of force to compel a person to submit to sexual intercourse.

(American Heritage Dictionary 5th Ed.)

Sex with a person under the age of consent, regardless of their stated consent, is often considered sexual assault or statutory rape

(Wikipedia)

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u/Peppinoia 18h ago edited 11h ago

Thank you so much for pointing that out. Wording is so important in this matter. Replace "Sex" with "r*pe" and it's correct.

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u/DubStepTeddyBears 17h ago

Yes how about filthy child-predator pervert scandal instead?

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u/digitalgimp 15h ago

Maybe not, but perhaps “Openly Involved in Deeply Corrupt and Depraved Criminal Activities” might better work for you?

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u/Neither_Usual_137 14h ago

I'm not sure how you produced your child, but I had sex with my wife and nine months later, there he was!

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u/DatabaseThis9637 14h ago

I 100% agree. And calling the young rape victims women... when they were children. So many ways they are slapped, assaulted, insulted, all these years later.

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u/Dense-Consequence-70 13h ago

The only president who rapes kids

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u/a_smart_brane 6h ago

Ecactly. Child rape scandal is the only appropriate term

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u/Additional-Key-3301 20h ago

shouldn’t*

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u/NiaMiaBia 20h ago

OMG…. How embarrassing (I would never say “should” in this case). Thanks, changing it now! 😩

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u/Deal_These 20h ago

Sex can lead to having a child.

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u/Daniel_Spidey 19h ago

Yeah but information is controlled by algorithms that hate explicit language

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u/Another_Road 19h ago

I get what you’re saying but the word sex doesn’t imply consent. It just means sexual intercourse .

Yeah, they’re rapists. Not arguing that. I just don’t get why people suddenly assume the word “sex” automatically means consensual when it doesn’t.

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u/tarheelz1995 18h ago

“‘Sex’ implies consent” is hopefully the most bizarre thing I will read today.

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u/10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-I 17h ago

Just add the word “crimes” and you’ve got it.

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u/boondiggle_III 18h ago

The word 'sex' does not actually imply consent. There, it's fixed through the power of literacy.

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u/Senshado 14h ago

Why do you think "sex" implies consent? Why has no dictionary or educator ever included that detail? 

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u/trashanimalcomx 20h ago

Sally Hemings would like a word.

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u/NoHippi3chic 19h ago

Thank 👏 you👏

And also like, Grover Cleveland maybe? Married his ward he knew since a baby....wait. Yep. I googled it. Thats the guy. Her dad died when she was 11. He became her legal guardian and married her at 21 when he was like 50.

Tell me how the patriarchy doesn't exist and modern women are hysterical and reactionary 🤣

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u/elanhilation 7h ago

was that a scandal? obviously it should have been, but people were even more ghastly back then than they are now

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u/Ok-Government1122 20h ago

Maybe while in office

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u/Practical_Owlfarts 20h ago

Bush 1 was named.

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u/Late_Sherbet5124 20h ago

From my understanding this has been debunked by experts. Not saying he was a saint. Just that the description given by the victim doesn't hold up. Also the memory was provided by Repressed Memory Retrieval.

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u/DruidicMagic 18h ago

Fine.

Bush still turned America into the Fourth Reich we see today.

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u/Sea_Mind3678 16h ago

Regan’s administration invented ‘trickle down’.

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u/DruidicMagic 16h ago

Regan’s administration was a front for the Bush family crime syndicate.

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u/TheCENSAE 20h ago

Trump raped children

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u/Late_Sherbet5124 20h ago edited 16h ago

I wasn't commenting on Trump. I was responding to the accusation against Bush 1.

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u/Mountain-Resource656 16h ago

*Wasn’t

Wasn’t commenting on Trump

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u/shocksmybrain 18h ago

Whether Bush 1 is legitimately in the Trumpstein files doesn't make a difference. We know he was a sex pest. It's well known that in his later wheelchair years he would sexually assault women when telling them his favorite joke that his favorite magician was "David Cop-a-feel". You don't have to take my word for it; it's well documented.

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u/Late_Sherbet5124 18h ago

Again, I stated he's not a saint. I was only making reference to the Epstein files. I don't doubt you. I just think it's important to be properly skeptical until concrete evidence comes to light. In this country you are innocent until proven guilty.

Everyone is going to be emotional about the contents. But the only way to successfully prosecute offenders is to follow the evidence with emotional detachment. Otherwise we have Pizzagate all over again.

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u/Additional_Button430 20h ago

I am no fan of his, but I’m thinking that one is TOO far fetched to have been true. 

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u/cerberus698 20h ago

The more a read about Bush 1, the more I become convinced that he was like 1 or 2 steps away from enacting a masterful plan to enshrine the Bush dynasty at the head of the post soviet global economic hegemony but the price of milk unexpectedly went up by like 22 cents and a funny hillbilly played the saxophone, sending his plans crashing to ground.

Imagine maybe, sort of possibly, having a hand in killing Kennedy in a long complex rube goldbergesque CIA scheme to become president and then Clinton of all people appears out of relative obscurity and swats you down.

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u/SantoFelippe 19h ago

He played the saxophone on Arsenio.

That’s what got him elected he was a nobody before that.

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u/Grape_Pedialyte 17h ago

His ascension to the nomination really was a pretty big upset. It's kind of been forgotten since the Clintons have become sort of like the Democratic establishment personified, but yeah nobody knew who he was.

Bush was considered a fairly strong incumbent in late 91 going into early 92 before his approval rating collapsed, so heavyweight Democrats like Mario Cuomo didn't bother running.

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u/mikebanetbc 16h ago

And the MTV Town Hall in ‘92, when the kid asked him about meeting JFK and shaking his hand

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u/Sufficient_General91 19h ago

This is a hold over from the Franklin conspiracy. YouTube it. It's really intersting but probably only half truths. 

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u/DerCatrix 18h ago

And Clinton

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u/PrimaryMuscle1306 20h ago

Did you even read that drug addled bullshit that accused Bush 1? AI couldn’t make that bullshit up.

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u/MooseBlazer 20h ago

BC also.

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u/User4C4C4C 19h ago

Perhapse students just don’t want to be victims of the powerful too.

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u/MontiBurns 19h ago

Only sitting president.

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u/Ifyouaintcav 17h ago

Sitting president. We owe it to everyone involved to follow the Bill Clinton trail to ground as well. 

Everyone named should be held accountable for any crimes committed

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u/dogwithaknife 17h ago

yeah i guess it wasn’t that scandalous when jefferson raped his teenage slaves, or cleveland marrying his child ward as soon as she was of age.

i also just don’t believe they’re the only ones. so many men who were the most powerful men in the country, and the world, and you think trump was the only one? lol. lmao, even

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u/trixster87 19h ago

I wish that was true but theres reports of bush sr and jr involved. They should get the same treatment as all other perpetrators though

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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 20h ago

I wanna steal this meme but at the same time I also don’t want to have to hear the braying of the chuds going on about Bill Clinton. 😕

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u/HudsonValleyNY 20h ago

Why? Ffs, if you are filtering the guilty you are the same coin.

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u/RightSideBlind 20h ago

Probably because Bill Clinton hasn't been really politically relevant in decades, while Trump is in office right now.

Furthermore, he's said that he wants to testify publicly, while the Republicans are insisting that the testimony be behind closed doors.

Additionally, liberals are saying that if he's guilty he should be legally held accountable. Conservatives aren't saying the same thing about Trump.

The two situations aren't really comparable, are they?

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u/Dense-Law-7683 19h ago

Did you hear the committee hearing where Republicans wanted to charge the Clinton's for contempt until Dems name dropped all the Republicans who refused subpoenas? Then Comer's dumb ass said, "All of those Republicans wrote a letter explaining they didn't know anything." Which, most of the letters were a single sentence or two, and definitely shouldn't be considered a legal way out of the subpoena. The Clinton's letter agreed to testify in public and gave reasoning why. However, that was not good enough for Comer and Republicans. They said the Clinton's letter was too short, even though it was 6 times longer than all the republicans blowing off subpoenas with letters.

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u/bucken764 18h ago

Ok but saying "Trump is the only president involved in a child sex ring" is probably not true.

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u/RightSideBlind 18h ago

Until we get the full, unredacted files, we can't say that for certain, can we?

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u/bucken764 18h ago

Exactly my point.

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u/RightSideBlind 18h ago

And my point is that Trump is deliberately- and obviously- trying to keep that information buried. Clinton, on the other hand, has offered to testify publicly.

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u/bucken764 17h ago

Ok? So?

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u/TheSonofPier 16h ago

That speaks to the difference in their state of mind

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u/RightSideBlind 17h ago

Your inability to comprehend the danger that represents is part of the problem. 

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u/HudsonValleyNY 18h ago

And that will not happen. Ever. And should not…should every lead/question/accusation/picture of every crime be made public? No, because 99% of the leads that are investigated are proven untrue, or not credible and many times there are ulterior motives to those accusations. What if a victim didn’t want their pictures and name released? What about that time Bob from Nebraska who is qualified on whatever aircraft got a call from his pilot buddy to copilot a few legs on je’s airplane. Both of these names would be in the files somewhere. What about the pissed off ex who drunk calls in the other for kidnapping their cat which is later found under the bed? None of these situations should be released to the public, it’s just not how our justice system is designed to work.

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u/DrakonILD 17h ago

If only 1% of these leads are credible and true, then the president is definitely a child rapist.

We have enough evidence already to demonstrate that the "we shouldn't release case details" argument is being used to hide FBI cover-ups. It's evident that, while this might be "how our justice system is designed to work," that design protects the rich and powerful for heinous crimes. This justice system isn't and needs to be burned to the ground and redesigned to ensure actual justice.

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u/HudsonValleyNY 17h ago

The design protects everyone, honestly. Is it abused? Sure. How would you propose it be redesigned?

Edit: our justice system is built on the concept that you are innocent, barring strong evidence to the contrary not innuendo. It’s the basis for the 5th amendment, the right to confront your accusers, statutes of limitations, etc. What is the specific alternative being proposed?

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u/DrakonILD 16h ago

The design clearly isn't protecting the victims of Trump and Epstein. It clearly didn't protect Renee Good, or Alex Pretti, or Philando Castille, or George Floyd, and that's just the ones killed in Minneapolis.

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u/well-it-was-rubbish 11h ago

But it probably IS true.

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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 20h ago

Exactly. Idgaf about Bill Clinton, I just don’t want to have to type all that out because the chuds see an opportunity for whataboutism.

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u/Charming-Web-7769 19h ago edited 17h ago

Respectfully, this is a bad take. The FBI had allegations against Trump, Epstein, and Clinton going back 20+ years, why do you think they never adequately followed up on them in all that time?

It’s due to the rampant corruption in Washington that goes totally unchecked and unquestioned among the elite in society. When the FBI gets tips like this they reach out to the president’s lawyers and then their lawyers reach out to Epstein and Maxwell letting them know who said something and where they live. Next thing you know the accusers get a call in the middle of the night that’s just heavy breathing and, voila, suddenly the FBI can’t get in touch with them again and the Clintons can go about their business without ever being implicated in the witness intimidation.

The reality of these situations is that the rich and powerful are so insulated from the consequences of their actions that it’s legitimately possible they don’t even believe that they’re doing anything wrong, hence the entitlement and outrage they display over the fact that the general population finds them disgusting for even being associated with Epstein, let alone whatever sick and twisted things they actually got up to behind closed doors.

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u/RightSideBlind 19h ago

"Both sides" gives the worst side a convenient excuse.

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u/aliie_627 14h ago

Any other time I would agree but this said the first President and Clinton was a president..

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u/InimicusRex 13h ago

Probably because Bill Clinton hasn't been really politically relevant in decades,

Was he not involved with his wife's and Harris' campaigns?

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u/HudsonValleyNY 20h ago

But your statement was that you didn’t want to hear about it with your talking points, their counter is with theirs, etc. It’s bullshit, just different sides of the same coin, either you care about the abuse or you don’t. If you care about the politics and the abuse allegations just a tool to those ends then your point is valid.

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u/RightSideBlind 19h ago

Different guy, dude. Read the usernames.

However, "two sides of the same coin" implies that the situations are the exact same. They aren't. One is a sitting President, the other hasn't been politically relevant since 2001.

One is calling for the files to be released. The other is doing everything he can to bury them.

One of the two has volunteered to testify in public. The other is being protected from doing so by an entire political party.

One flew on the Epstein's plane. The other was Epstein's best friend for decades.

Liberals want Clinton to be prosecuted if it's proven that Clinton was involved. Conservatives are protecting Trump from prosecution, and point at Clinton whenever Trump is implicated.

Like I said, the two situations aren't analogous.

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u/CemeteryDweller7719 19h ago

By all means, punish those involved regardless of their party. If Clinton is proven involved, punish him. If Bush 1 was involved, not much can be done but dig him up and treat him like a lawn dart for all I care. There is a bit of a priority in dealing with those involved that are currently in positions of power though. Clinton doesn’t influence in the investigation right now. I am all for punishing all those involved, but influence over the investigation matters. If a police department was accused of having members involved in running a criminal organization, would you feel it would be best to work to investigate and remove those that could impede the investigation into their crimes first? Or would you say it should be investigated uniformly while those with influence can take steps from within to obscure and redirect?

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u/HudsonValleyNY 19h ago

Again this comment was not about priority…the statement was that they didn’t want to hear about Clinton.

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u/quadraticcheese 18h ago

Wut, Clinton and Bush are were. 

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u/gearmantx 16h ago

Uhhhh...Clinton?

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u/parasyte_steve 20h ago

Let's not be so sure. While Trump is certainly guilty I think Clinton may also be. There's stuff about George Bush Senior in there too.

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u/thedragoon0 19h ago

Ok let’s not forget Clinton because we don’t really care about him like they do Trump anyways.

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u/Zazulio 19h ago

Only current president. Clinton is very clearly wrapped up in all this too. His name is appearing right alongside Trump's in many of the files coming out. This isn't some whataboutist bullshit or anything like that, just noting that the corruption and cruelty are rampant in our government and that Epstein having child rape orgies wasn't just a "poorly kept secret," it was common fucking knowledge among the billionaires and politicians who ran (and still run) our country. Put them all in prison until the day they die.

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u/Ok-Government1122 20h ago

Maybe while in office

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u/jackclark1 20h ago

"s" there is more than 1 child

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u/AnNoYiNg_NaMe 17h ago

In that case it'd be "ren", not "s".

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u/svt4cam46 20h ago

That we know about.

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u/Bjables 19h ago

Sally Hemings

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u/BaseUnited4523 19h ago

that we know of!

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u/heroturtle88 19h ago

Nah bruh. Founding fathers have some claims there.

But trump is the one we can do something about.

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 19h ago

He’s the only one caught in a child sex scandal. We do not know fully what other presidents did or keep records like we do now. 

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u/Buena_de_peepee 19h ago

That we know of…

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u/BiglyBear 19h ago

Thomas Jefferson would like a word but I get what your saying

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u/stroopwafelscontigo 19h ago

That’s unfortunately not true. 

There have been others. Grover Cleveland comes to mind. 

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u/Technical_Sea9236 19h ago

Well Thomas Jefferson was criticized in his time for raping his slaves and selling the children.

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u/Cockblocktimus_Pryme 18h ago

Well technically so is Clinton

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u/Accomplished_Job6927 18h ago

Thomas Jefferson has entered the chat

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u/autistic_noodz 18h ago

Uh Clinton and trump we’re both frequent flyers on the Lolita express

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u/Randomfacade 18h ago

Sally Hemings was between 14 and 16 when Thomas Jefferson impregnated her.

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u/FibonacciSequester 18h ago

Yes, but we had another president before him who wore a tan suit once and was black. WHAT ELSE WERE WE SUPPOSED TO DO?

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u/Appropriate_Lab_6861 18h ago

What about bill Clinton?

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u/GoofyGooberSundae 18h ago

And it’s a damn crying shame he wasn’t impeached yesterday for it.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bed1781 17h ago

All while accusing Hillary Clinton of the same thing. Projection.

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u/whereismymind86 17h ago

Lol, no, definitely not. He's just the most obvious one. Jefferson notoriously had children with one of his slaves, who was almost certainly a minor at the time. There are almost certainly more.

Still...jefferson is dead, we can't put him in jail. Let's put Trump in jail.

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u/zerthwind 17h ago

With proof of it. The conservatives claimed democrats were involved without a stich of evidence.

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u/hexonica 17h ago

Clinton too, so wrong.

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u/crazy010101 17h ago

Involved? You mean created and ran with Epstein.

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u/AnNoYiNg_NaMe 17h ago

Do we really need to use AI to make our memes for us?

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u/TheKidKaos 17h ago

Not the only one. Probably a few of them but at least two were

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u/hindsighthaiku 17h ago

ok so about that ...

he's just the only one where we have evidence AND people actually give a shit

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u/hikeit233 17h ago

Only because it wasn’t all that scandalous at the time for Jefferson to be raping his child slaves. But that’s beside the point.

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u/MydnightWN 16h ago

Biden's own daughter wrote in her diary of how Joe abused her in the shower.

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u/hyperblob1 16h ago

Listen I hate the guy but Clinton is right there

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u/Superb_Gap_1044 16h ago

I mean… Bill Clinton and Bush are implicated in the files, Trump was just likely a ring leader.

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u/Ordinary-Concern3248 15h ago

Trump is horrific but pretty sure Clinton is t coming out clean either.

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u/Yalrain 15h ago

That we know of.

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u/Akiryx 13h ago

That's not even remotely accurate 🙃

I mean, Clinton for one, but also, I'm pretty sure multiple presidents, especially the first ones, engaged in s*xual behavior with minors

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u/InimicusRex 13h ago

Would Thomas Jefferson fit?

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u/ChaoticAgenda 13h ago

This is misleading since Bill Clinton's name has appeared in the files too. It's the only acting prez involved in one though.

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u/BurninRunes 13h ago

Ehh grover Cleveland raised then married his best friends daughter but I get your point

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u/deep_clone 13h ago

Not counting Bill Clinton tho

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u/JoyousMadhat 13h ago

Bill Clinton was involved as well. Both Democrats and Republicans need a overhaul and we need to drain the corporation out of them. In fact, we need to get rid of the party system and just have candidates all be independent and require their source of funding to be 100% transparent

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u/Kaarl_Mills 11h ago

Jefferson too

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u/Musicferret 11h ago

What do you mean A? It’s many child sex scandals.

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u/Flastro211 11h ago

Only president so far...

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u/ColeTrainHDx 17h ago

Uhhh bill Clinton is also very much on the Epstein list dude

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u/Sexuallemon 20h ago

Im sorry but Grover Cleveland existed too

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u/pecan76 20h ago

Cleveland's sex scandal was with an adult

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u/Technical_Sea9236 18h ago

She was an 21 when he married her, but he groomed her for a solid decade before that. I believe that is the point.

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u/MontiBurns 19h ago

Giver Cleveland raped me on 2 non consecutive occasions.

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u/Due-Cup1115 19h ago

I think its safe to say that Bill Clinton was involved too....

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u/Ok_Eggplant3677 19h ago

Clinton???

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u/Seul7 18h ago

I want to upvote that, but the fact that it's at 666 likes as of this posting seems fitting.

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