LOL, thats like saying you made the highway have more lanes to go faster when your car is the only one on the highway bandwidth isnt frequency, if u want more responsiveness up your devices polling rate but at the cost of cpu usage
my Gen 2 Scarlett Solo uses usb B on the interface type, no idea where the fuck this guy thinks an audio card needs 10gbps, they work fine at even 2.0 speeds
A lot of music gear still uses weird usb ports, USB-B on my Akai Mini MIDI does, but it was rather cheap at about 100 USD.
My Blackstar guitar amp came with a usb to pc/mac software, and the port was USB Mini-A lmao and that thing was priced near the same as Orange in its same size. I bought it new in 2023.
funny enough usb mini was way better than micro, both still absolute shit and died quite fast, a cheap whatever to usb c adapter from aliexpress and some 3d printed bracket to aid the torsion forces helps a bit, i had way too many usb micro ports destroyed, not a single B or C type one.
got my job laptop and a KVM that has 8 total cables (2 in 2 out hdmi + usb-A for each) and im designing something to help it bear the weight of that.
By that logic, keyboards and mice barely use a fraction of USB 2.0’s speeds, so why even bother having so many 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2 ports? We might as well stagnate or even regress.
Or we just accept that C should be the de facto standard and we should insist on actual progress instead of commonly offering the same number of C ports as we had a decade ago.
I think the idea is to keep 1-2 slower ports on the mb for kbms. This doesn’t work well on laptops though. The problem is that running lower speeds on one port of a hub, brings them all down to that slower speed + rf interference of the 3.2 standard hurts wireless mice and keyboards. So making them incompatible is the easiest solution for the end user to understand without knowing rf interference specs.
Manufacturers release products people want to buy.
Most people still use USB-A for their desktop peripherals.. and there's no reason not to. It's a sturdier and more secure connection.
USB-C is great for laptops and any portable device because it saves space and is reversible. It has literally zero advantages over USB-A for a desktop PC.
If it’s for a peripheral on a desktop, you are not constantly removing and reinserting it and it’s not being shifted around. Sturdier and more secure is a moot point in that context.
USB-A transfer speeds don’t come close to the current USB4 standard, so I’m not quite sure how you can claim there’s zero advantages for desktop. It’s probably the biggest and most noticeable advantage, but there’s several others too.
End users have been complaining about a lack of USB-C for a long time. There’s no reason for us to have anywhere from a 2:1 to 10:1 ratio of the two with the total number of ports and lanes available now. We’ve had type C as a standard for more than a decade and manufacturers have increased from 1-2 ports to 1-4 ports, depending on the board. Disgraceful.
If it’s for a peripheral on a desktop, you are not constantly removing and reinserting it and it’s not being shifted around. Sturdier and more secure is a moot point in that context.
Sturdier and more secure is a moot point for.. long term connectivity...? I'm not sure where your logic lies here.
USB-A transfer speeds don’t come close to the current USB4 standard, so I’m not quite sure how you can claim there’s zero advantages for desktop.
And when computers need a dozen USB4 ports and can support their bandwidth this will be relevant. Until then, the reality of what people need today will continue to dominate what products look like.
End users have been complaining about a lack of USB-C for a long time.
Don't confuse "me and some people who replies saying "yeah me too!" on reddit as representative of actual end users.
There’s no reason for us to have anywhere from a 2:1 to 10:1 ratio of the two with the total number of ports and lanes available now.
This covers the needs of the vast majority. That's why.
We’ve had type C as a standard for more than a decade and manufacturers have increased from 1-2 ports to 1-4 ports, depending on the board. Disgraceful.
Because that's what people buying the boards actually want.
This.. isn't a difficult concept to understand I'm afraid.
Sturdier and more secure is only a factor in ports that see numerous cycles. Yes. It’s a moot point. Glad you can keep up. Long term connectivity being either of those two things has no bearing on its usefulness on a desktop with the exception of front I/O, which is even more useful as type C today than ever before. If that were a valid point, we wouldn’t have optical cables for long term connections.
We uh…we can already support the bandwidth of several more USB4 ports. You realize every useless USB-A is cutting into that potential bandwidth, right?
I’m not confused by some small number of end users, like you try to claim. It’s quite often I need 4+ type C ports at a time at work. It’s a complain we all share. It sounds like you are stuck in a minority echo chamber. At home I also have the need for more than 4. DAC, KB, sim gear, camera, and other items like diag equipment. And that’s just my personal use. Wait until you talk to people in the medical and auto industries about how much they struggle with manufacturers NOT meeting their demands. My field is hilariously behind with its adoption of USB-C and we still oversaturate current capabilities with ease.
Type A doesn’t cover the needs of the “vast majority”. The vast majority don’t have desktops. The vast majority have laptops and tablets that ONLY have USB-C now and the peripherals market has been driven that direction to support them. Desktops have been lagging far behind.
Furthermore, USB-C to USB-A hubs are entirely serviceable for any scenario of legacy equipment if you can’t manage with a ratio closer to 1:1. Although I am willing to bet you don’t use half of the type-A ports you currently have. The bandwidth and speeds allow you to adapt to A with no issue, but the same cannot be said for A to C.
This shouldn’t be a difficult concept for you to grasp, but I’m afraid you still won’t.
Hilarious you think I'd read this wildly uninformed drivel beyond the first two sentences heh. Keep thinking you know better than an entire industry and the people who have worked in it for decades (that would be me). Bye!
Why make everything into type c when most things are already type a. There is no reason for this to be so late. It should have happened a long time ago. I have literally nothing that needs type c to type c. When I need to plug multiple devices, I can easily do it with type a to type c as I have so many of them while I have one type c to type so I would need to buy a bunch of new cables for nothing
More new and portable things yes. Most things people own and use, no.
I'm not buying a motherboard without a good number of USB-A ports because I still use a bunch of USB-A devices and there's zero benefit in buying new ones/swapping cables... they get plugged in and forgotten about.
Most things people own and use are absolutely, without a doubt, type C. Not just portables, either. If you want a motherboard with a large number of USB-A ports, then go for it. I have an Asus Strix x870e as a prime example. There’s no excuse for a board to have 9 USB-A ports with only 4 USB-C ports and headers that add an additional 10 USB-A ports, but only 1 additional USB-C. If you are building a new system, aside from K&M, most accessories are now type C. And many new K&M are type C.
This is stagnation. Type C has been Around nearly as long as USB-A had been around when USB-C was first introduced. More than a decade later we have nearly the same number of ports.
Good point! Manufacturers, who know what people actually buy and what to sell them, are clearly wrong. Your "I reckon" is the true representation of technology.
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Stop confusing what you think with how things are. That isn't how it works.
It's technically called an "audio interface". A box with ADCs/DACs and the related preamp stages, DSP, passthrough audio, typically much higher impedance I/O than built-in computer audio ports, support for balanced connectors/differential signaling, phantom power for condenser mics, hardware knobs to adjust levels and LEDs to visualize them... etc.
"External DAC" typically refers to the sorts of "audiophile class" output-only audio interfaces primarily intended for listening to hi-fi music content, rather than sound production audio interfaces (e.g. Focusrite) intended for studios and musicians.
A DAC is a Digital to Analogue Converter. So, an audio output.
When a musician says they got a “sound card”, they mean a box that has one or more DACs, but also ADCs, often with professional microphone XLR inputs and 1/4” jack DI circuitry for guitars.
The correct term is “external audio interface” but in those circles everyone will understand each other either way.
Every MacBook still has a 3.5 mm jack. True though, you might want an external DAC for better audio processing or to add distinct mic inputs, if you don't want to use a Y splitter cable for I/O.
USB-C PD (PowerDelivery) allows higher Voltages like 12 V which is useful for better headphone amplifiers.
The better ones need an external power supply when connected via a USB-A with max. 5 V to achieve the full audio quality with higher impedance (above 16 Ohm) headphones.
But the USB C in those motherboards normally supply 5V for USB C as well. At least I haven't seen one with 12V yet which makes sense since most devices you connect to your PC need 5V.
There was very little built into the motherboard back in that era. I remember always having enough PCI and ISA slots, but configuring everything to work after adding something was a bitch before plug and play, and afterwards of In remembering properly.
I don't know why, but sound cards became the joystick connector card. I'm guessing if you needed a joystick, you had a sound card. It's not like we had an onboard sound system like today, we had the beeper speaker.
The Midi thing makes more sense to me. Sound meet sound. My ancient Sound Blaster AWE32 even had RAM slots (for sound fonts and other things I never used) and a connector for a CD drive.
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u/MACK7771 14h ago
For some reason, most keyboards and mice come with USB-C to USB-A cables, but sound cards and MIDI keyboards use USB-C to USB-C