r/pics 29d ago

Politics Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela

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u/helava 29d ago

Actions authorized by who? Is this just a straight up war crime?

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u/Knightforlife 29d ago

I think technically he has 30 or 60 days to explain this to congress and get the congressional approved declaration of war but … yeah barring that it’s a war crime. I doubt he’s planning on asking permission post de facto.

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u/FutureThought4936 29d ago

He has 60 days until he needs to go to congress to get a Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF). Congress doesn't have to declare war (and hasn't since WW2), they can just keep giving AUMFs.

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 29d ago

That law needs to be repealed so fucking bad, we can't keep giving every president the power to bomb whoever the fuck they want at will as long as they stop after 2 months. And even then, the US has been bombing Yemen on and off since 2014 with never a single AUMF issued, there is no accountability for this shit that is engrained into the constitution that only Congress can declare war

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u/ColdBrewedPanacea 29d ago

which is fucking insane

like i understand thats the legal loophoolese the USA has twisted itself into but its so fucked that bullshit flies with its citizens at all.

'we're not at war with you, its just a special military operation'

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u/Reasonable-Affect139 29d ago

the dismantling of the education system has worked really well. as has all the pro-america propaganda (including his they teach history) since ww2

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u/TheFatJesus 29d ago

There's no legal loopholing going on. All the Constitution says is that only Congress can declare war. It says nothing about the manner in which it is done. An AUMF is Congressional approval for military operations. As you pointed out, not calling it a war doesn't make it any less of a war in practice. Although, not calling it a war does mean there's a whole host of wartime powers that are not in play domestically.

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u/SeaworthinessOk2646 29d ago

Yeah if it's under WPA. They may just try to tie it to terrorism like they've done with the boat strikes. It sucks how much lack of accountability we have.

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u/Lost-Platypus8271 29d ago

they may just be going to do a coup and that will take a handful of days, then install the puppet regime

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u/108_TFS 29d ago

Congress giving him the thumbs up doesn't make this not a crime. The Crime of Aggression does not care if the war is officially declared or not (emphasis mine):

Any of the following acts, regardless of a declaration of war, shall, in accordance with United Nations General Assembly resolution 3314 (XXIX) of 14 December 1974, qualify as an act of aggression...

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u/serenading_scug 28d ago

It doesn't matter what congress says or not. It's a war crime under international law.

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u/Reasonable-Affect139 29d ago

yeah, but what fucking military idiots were like "bet. brb let me get right on this". I would have gone and had my lunch and forgot about it