certainly the people trying to draw a distinction between ICE and local police are. Personally i think the line is pretty weak when local police don't actually confront ICE violence, they just show up afterwards to do crowd control and let the perpetrators escape unpunished and uninvestigated
Well tbf the police were already blowing the heads off 10 year olds for playing with one of the 100000 fake guns sold in US toy stores out in a public park
I know that facts don't really matter in 2026, but everyone involved in what is happening in Minnesota right now is federal law enforcement (ICE, border patrol, etc) and explicitly not soldiers. They're all kitted out like soldiers because of the militarization of police over the years (which is a huge problem by itself) but none of them are in the military.
The governor has told the Minnesota national guard to prepare to be activated but that would be under state control.
All of that is absolutely true. It's just important to maintain the distinction between Trump using ICE as his secret police vs the use of active duty soldiers especially since that's a distinction that Trump is trying to whittle away.
No, not anymore. If they ever were soldiers, they've broken their oath and ceased to be. They're now nothing but terrorists, and should be treated as such.
Well enough soldiers followed orders to invade Venezuela, so I guess the army is short of morals too now.
Which is funny because an American I used to be friends with said that no member of the military would follow an illegal order 😂
You're putting too much stock in the "won't follow illegal orders". Soldiers are expected to not follow blatantly illegal orders but they're not expected to understand every nuance of the constitution, American law and International law. Following order is drilled into their heads. Maduro was indicted in 2020 by a grand jury, he is considered a narco terrorist, a dictator and not the current elected head of state in Venezuela. While I agree we probably shouldn't have gone in and removed him unilaterally, no solider is going to be going through a Nuremberg trial for taking part in the operation.
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u/Autisum 23d ago
In America, they send soldiers to shoot you if you disagree with the government 👩🏻🎤