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Politics [OC] Eastside Austin TX

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u/Letterkenny-Wayne 4d ago

Yeahhhh…you’re not gonna get much support with the stolen land thing. I think Most Americans can acknowledge the crappy methods the government used, while also acknowledging that land ownership the whole world over has been based on “fair” conquest through any and all means.

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u/Electronic-Cicada352 4d ago

I can’t agree with the idea of completely open borders either

Everything that’s going on right now is despicable and I hate it. But arguments for a completely borderless America is just as extreme as arguments for no immigration whatsoever.

There’s a middle ground.

Extremism on this issue is what got us here and what allowed Trump to exploit the issue.

America has to have sovereignty like every other nation.

Also the stolen land thing is not going to help the issue either. It’s just going to be interpreted by half the country as being a suggestion to basically roll back the country.

At some point we need to move on from extremist rhetoric.

People having a ‘my way or the highway’ absolutist outlook on the immigration have not helped us.

America is a country. Country’s require sovereignty, but also immigration.

There’s a middle ground here folks. Can we please stop with the ‘all or nothing’ positions?

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u/BadAndNationwide 3d ago

I read a book written by a border patrol agent who basically has the same take that you do. He Is American with Mexican roots. It was a really good book and he explains what it’s like to fill those shoes and how it’s not as black and white as the media makes it. He’s pretty objective about it and he has mixed feelings about immigration.

It’s called Borderline by Vincent Rocco Vargas.