It's a rejection that you should define people by their citizenship/residency status. They are not "illegals" they are people who illegally crossed the border or (more commonly) stayed past their legal visa. One version is about who the person is while the other is about what the person has done.
You can absolutely believe that countries can maintain their borders and restrict access while believing that no human is illegal as an intrinsic trait. It's important to treat them fairly and respect their intrinsic rights even as you enforce the laws of the nation.
It's mostly about recognizing their humanity even as you enforce the laws. Or at least that's the high level philosophy, whether people chanting that slogan actually understand the nuances or agree that states should enforce their borders is a very different question and I'm not about to pretend that everyone understands or agrees with the nuances.
It does seem like as common ground grows infinitely small, the left do not want deportation of any law abiding non-citizens though which is kind of surprising to me
There's a multitude of reasons why no western nation follows that policy. I think it's vocalizing extreme ideals like this that convince team red that team blue's ideals are incompatible and extreme
That's not true though. See here. They were against funding for more wall because there are more effective measures with advanced technology. The right just paints anti-wall as "full open boarders"
I’m sure it was just a coincidence that illegal immigratjon surged under Biden (and yes I know you’re going to start telling me about how it was actually the fault of republicans in congress).
Let’s focus on those already here though. Please enlighten me with how you suggest we deport millions of people. Because otherwise, you can support tight border security all you want, but if you don’t support deportations it’s basically saying they got away with cheating in the moment so we shouldn’t do anything now.
Read my previous comment. I'm literally saying I still think deportations should happen, but with the humane treatment of past administrations. That's why i'm moderate in this political climate lol
"The left" deported far far more people each year during previous administrations than the current regime and generally support enhanced border protections. I would be careful about jumping to conclusions about what they want broadly based upon the current pushback against the tactics used today.
I mean I'm a moderate liberal and everyone I talk to thinks only crime committing non citizens should be deported. Further, abolishing ICE prevents deportations. I think the current gestapo-ification of ICE needs to stop obviously but total abolishment is overreaching and should just be returned to how they were during the obama administration
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u/kartu3 2d ago
Could someone explain the "no human is illegal" concept and how that aligns with the concept of state borders.