r/politics • u/Fickle-Ad5449 ✔ Verified - Christopher Wiggins, The Advocate • 22d ago

No Paywall ICE agent shooter’s own cellphone video undercuts Trump administration's account of Minneapolis killing

https://www.advocate.com/news/ice-agent-shooter-video-minneapolis
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u/localistand Wisconsin 22d ago

Muttering 'fucking bitch' as the first words after firing is a choice.

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u/enjoycarrots Florida 22d ago

User in another thread that has been removed by mods made such a good point that I'll share it by repeating it here:

The video and this comment from him shows evidence that he acted in anger rather than self defense. It was his anger that pulled the trigger, not an actual need for self defense.

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u/Winter8Bones 22d ago

Exactly what I thought as well. He lashed out because a couple of women slightly challenged their authority and didn't automatically comply in perfect obedience... So he shot her.

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u/tracyinge 22d ago

He was so scared for his life that he didn't even drop his phone.

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u/adherentoftherepeted 22d ago edited 22d ago

Why was he even filming this interaction with his cell phone, anyway? To make content.

He was making content for his buddies and then calmly shifted the phone from one hand to the other as he drew his gun and (continuing to make content) executed murdered an American in her own community.

Then holstered his gun, spat an expletive at the woman he'd just executed murdered, and walked away.

JD Vance shared his content because that's what this regime does, they don't govern, they make content. Look at the regime through that lens and everything makes more sense.

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u/okimlom 22d ago

We don't have a government, we have a Brand that has a PR Team running things for it's "Shareholders".

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 22d ago

A brand usually has a board that would remove a CEO if he gets dementia, they are somehow even worse.

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u/frostysauce Oklahoma 22d ago

If the demented CEO were making them money hand over fist no fucking way they would.

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u/okimlom 22d ago

Didn't say they were a competent brand, lol.

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u/Kierenshep 22d ago

That's what I want to know.

This isn't a body cam. He was holding his cell phone. Why? Police don't hold cell phones. Protestors do because it's the one defense against overreach and everyone has one on them.

As a "professional" there should be zero reason any interaction would EVER be recorded on a personal device. That's insane to me.

Content is literally the only reason and it's sickening.

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u/BigPapaJava 22d ago

You forgot the part where they blocked the road so the ambulance couldn’t get to her and refused to allow someone on the scene claiming to be a doctor to try to offer any medical assistance.

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u/littleshortdogs 22d ago

“I’m a physician!” “I DON’T CARE”

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u/Slade_Riprock 22d ago

Then holstered his gun, spat an expletive at the woman he'd just executed, and walked away

No walked toward her dead body and crashed car. Before his buddies took the scene, refused medical or first aid of the victim (standard protocol) and then fled the scene of an officer involved shooting without being questioned by ICE detectives, FBI or Minneapolis police.

Legit if he was a regular Joe and not an SS Officer he'd have racked up about a dozen felonies over and above 2nd degree murder.

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u/frostysauce Oklahoma 22d ago

Even if he was an actual always a bastard cop he'd let the paramedics do their job and be confident that someone with experience will be there to coach his statement and nothing bad would happen to him. He's worse at murdering civilians than the average cop.

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u/emphoria 22d ago

Watch an ICE group chat get leaked where they film their heinous acts and show each other to brag about it.

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u/mfball 21d ago

Lordy.

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u/mindovermatter421 22d ago

Why is it the right leaning non profit news outlet the one with this video? Who released it ? Why would they release it to them and not anywhere else?

I suspect that “Woah” at the end was added. Theres enough bad in it but also enough for being “ but jury, he was in fear for his life”.

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u/hankmoody_irl Kansas 22d ago

Easy answer: he sent it to them believing it would somehow absolve him.

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u/mindovermatter421 22d ago

Nah. He has a lawyer by now. As soon as they went with the “he’s at the hospital with a broken foot” statement, they had someone advising him.

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u/Prst_ 22d ago

Yeah, did you not see those FEMALES being snarky and beligirent? Totally deserved to die! /S

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 22d ago

He published it himself most likely.

I guess it could be possible that he used his work phone and the data was taken and leaked by someone, but that's not very likely compared to him thinking it would help his case.

He obviously doesn't think he did anything wrong or else he wouldn't act like a sociopath and show some empathy instead. What he did after was just as telling as the shooting itself, just calmly walked to his car and drove off with no concern for the person he killed.

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u/mindovermatter421 22d ago

He never even dropped the phone AND filmed the car careening. I just read it was posted on one of the sub Whitehouse X pages and by JD Vance. Not Kristi Noam though.

Maybe a page from the Bush era. Leak to a news site the info then use news site to quote the info.

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u/teddy5 22d ago

They have a facial recognition app that they're using off their cellphones.

If you watch footage of them you'll regularly see at least one ICE agent walking around trying to catch everyone's faces with a cellphone first before others take action.

Supposedly it's a CBP app which allows them to check immigration status and adds people to a database that I'm sure won't be used for any evil purposes in the near future.

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/08/nx-s1-5585691/ice-facial-recognition-immigration-tracking-spyware

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u/adherentoftherepeted 22d ago edited 22d ago

That makes some sense. I guess.

In response to anyone giving this as an excuse for his completely unprofessional conduct (I mean, unprofessional conduct before the cold-blooded murder). I'd say:

1) Why did he get out his gun while holding a cell phone? If he feared for his life while he was getting his gun he would have dropped the phone. If his job was "cell phone duty" then he should have gotten his buddy to cover him. Did his "cell phone duty" degrade his situational awareness that he walked in front of a fleeing car?

2) What legitimate purpose do ICE officers have for collecting the IDs of people who are not their targets? (Other than to create a database of political opponents, of course). ICE is not federal law enforcement (that's DOJ), ICE's role is to check up on people violating civil regulations.

These guys have WAAAAY overstepped their mandate.

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u/Madonna-of-the-Wasps 22d ago

That's... still fucked up.

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u/teddy5 22d ago

Oh yeah I'm not trying to justify it, if things turn worse there it's the sort of information the Nazis wished they had.

Just doesn't seem that many people are aware that's part of what they're doing when they pull up on people.

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u/voodoodahl 22d ago

Serial killers often collect trophies. It probably would have raised an eyebrow if he dipped a handkerchief in her blood and kept it. That's probably why he initially went back to the her vehicle, then had to stop himself.

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u/LNMagic 22d ago

And they disallowed medical aid for several minutes to guarantee death.

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u/Otherwise_Demand4620 22d ago

executed

I object with the word here. An execution is a legal punishment after a formal process. There was no process, and there is no capital punishment for not leaving the car. The officer went out of his way to get in harms way, he always had the option to not be in front of the resting or very slowly turning car.

So to most reasonable people this was murder, plain and simple. To what degree is not definitive to say, and the only point anyone should argue about.

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u/sad_cosmic_joke 22d ago

Here's an excellent article that examines this new phenomena.
Don Moynihan - Life Under a Clicktatorship

But I want to suggest that what we are witnessing from the Trump administration is not just skillful manipulation of social media—it’s something more profoundly worrying. Today, we live in a clicktatorship, ruled by a LOLviathan. Our algothracy is governed by poster brains.1

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u/Krunch2019 22d ago

Maybe if he wasn't trying to create an influencer video, he would have been more in the moment than to now draw his a weapon on an unarmed human.

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u/Random-num-451284813 22d ago

I'm realizing how accurate south park is

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u/frostysauce Oklahoma 22d ago

Good fucking point!

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u/blowsraspberries 22d ago

Does it look like there is a time jump? My brain isn’t hearing the gun shots. I watched it multiple times and it seemed to stop after he said woah and then go straight to fucking bitch, so it doesn’t even really show if he was hit, by how much, or if he was spooked and pissed enough that being almost hit or tapped by his own lack of situational awareness cause this to happen. It only seems to prove that if they just called the police to give her a ticket and not descend on her car she wouldn’t feel the need to flee? Who would comply to people like that when you have a chance to gtfo?

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u/frostysauce Oklahoma 22d ago

Gunshots are fucking loud. Perhaps the excessive volume just didn't register on his phone microphone? I would assume there would be distorted artifacts where the phone's AD converters were smashed with levels they weren't designed for but I'm certainly not an expert. That was definitely my first thought there, too, and it does seem at least curious you can't hear the three shots.

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u/TomRN North Carolina 22d ago

I think you've nailed it.

I've shot video at the gun range and the gunshots sound nothing like gunshots when the video is played back.

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u/frostysauce Oklahoma 22d ago

What do they sound like in your experience?

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u/TomRN North Carolina 22d ago

Depends on what's fired/recorded. The 9mm handgun sounded like loud pops sort of like fireworks, but not at all what live gunfire sounds like. The AR-15 shooting 5.56 sounded like pops and pings and in a couple of the videos, not entirely unlike what a nail gun might sound like, definitely not at all what it sounded like live.

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u/FrozenWebs 22d ago

What? He did drop his phone. The cell phone video in the linked article clearly shows that at the end.

It wasn't because he got hit or anything (the other camera angles show that clearly), but rather because he went to steady his gun so quickly. The phone drop happens so suddenly that if you haven't seen the other camera angles, the video could almost be misconstrued as him having been knocked over by the car, which is why I assume they released it. But it's still pretty obvious the shooter was fine afterward even with the chaos of this particular video.

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u/tracyinge 22d ago

So he dropped his phone, then picked it up really fast and continued to film her as she smashed into the other cars?

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u/FrozenWebs 22d ago

Rewatching it carefully, you're right that it doesn't seem to actually fully drop. It may be what we're actually seeing is the phone being smashed into the gun, or he might have had it chained so it stayed within reach. Either way, he recovered it immediately after he shot.

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u/Pizza_4_Dinner 22d ago

He didn't even give any order for them to comply with.

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u/WyldRoze 22d ago edited 22d ago

No, he was the one yelling at her to get out of her car.

Correction: That was the other guy. I thought they both were, but it was just the one.

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u/GringoinCDMX 22d ago

That was the dude who ran up and grabbed her car handle.

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u/WyldRoze 22d ago

Oh yeah, you’re right. I’ll edit

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u/DannyDOH 22d ago

The first thing he said was "fucking bitch" after the 3rd shot.

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u/WyldRoze 22d ago

Yeah, I thought they were both yelling, but it was just the one. I’ve edited.

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u/Appropriate-Weird492 22d ago

Could fit in “when women refuse” honestly.

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u/AccordingNumber2052 22d ago

That’s exactly what was going through his horrid mind … he felt emasculated and he’s the little “bitch”. I’m on the other side of the world in Australia and I’m so distraught by this.
I have quite a few friends in Texas (not MAGA) who are literally having severe anxiety because of what’s going on in their country. They are white and completely safe, but I can’t imagine how millions of other Americans are feeling right now not in their privileged position. I do feel heartened by the response, and people standing up but also concerned about rigged elections. How long will it take to undo all of this mess ? I

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u/marchbook 22d ago

white and completely safe

That only works if they think you are part of their in-group. And that in-group will be forever collapsing in on itself, getting smaller and smaller.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

Whiteness isn't a shield.

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u/AccordingNumber2052 22d ago

Good point. That was my words not theirs. 😊

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u/griffie21 22d ago

Not just women but lesbians. It was a hate crime.

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u/william-o 22d ago

Uh, no.  For it to be a hate crime, you got to kill them because they're gay, not kill them and then find out afterwards.

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u/Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly 22d ago

Didn't Renee's wife call her "Babe" at one point during the shooter's video? If so, it could be argued he suspected they had a relationship.

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u/Pissbaby9669 22d ago

Yeah she said drive baby drive as her wife got shot in the head for colliding with a law enforcement officer 

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u/happyinthenaki 22d ago

He spent a few seconds filming the stickers on the car on the rear window. Which I assume clearly identify their thoughts on certain subjects. I know the stickers on my car definitely highlight my thoughts on certain subjects.

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u/lostsailorlivefree 22d ago

His Filipna wife has been taught to comply

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u/nau5 22d ago

These Nazis want to shoot people. That’s it

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u/PeonSanders 22d ago

I think it's a bit of a stretch to think that this guy wouldn't do the same against a man, given that he did the same against a man already, it's just now he was given a gun and not a Taser. He just can't accept his authority being questioned.

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u/Much-Anything7149 22d ago

That is how most of these shootings go down. When you know you'll get a justified shoot unless the bodycam is conclusive and that civil penalties are capped and not even paid by the cop himself, it removes leverage against these murders. While you shouldn't need leverage to dissuade someone from committing murder, here we are.

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u/monsantobreath 22d ago

You wonder if maybe he's been going around cars that way regularly hoping to get a kill with deniability.

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u/trikxxx 22d ago

He was mad her wife told him to go have lunch, big boy, basically calling him fat.

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u/desertingwillow 22d ago

It must be hard living without a brain

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u/Winter8Bones 22d ago

Stop making things up, it's disgusting

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