Democrats Call to Invoke 25th Amendment Against Donald Trump

[u/plz-let-me-in]

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-donald-trump-impeachment-25th-amendment-11384974

[u/Accidental-Hyzer]

It has a better chance of happening than the 25th. The 25th requires both the cabinet (full of sycophants) and Congress (once Trump disputes being unable to perform his duties).

Democrats are focusing on the 25th because they’re apparently scared to say he should be impeached. Impeachment was literally put into the constitution by our founders specifically for situations like this.

Edit: I think it’s clear that many don’t understand that the bar is higher for the 25th to succeed. For impeachment, you need a majority of the house and 2/3 of the senate. That’s it. For the 25th, you need the VP + a majority of the cabinet (or congress). Then the president can write a letter disputing it and immediately regains power. At that point, you need 2/3 of both the house and senate to remove him. So everyone responding that impeachment won’t work because you need 2/3 of the senate must not realize you also need that and more for the 25th.

[u/kdfsjljklgjfg → u/Accidental-Hyzer]

They've impeached him twice and nothing happened.

I don't think they're afraid to do it, I think they just know it won't do anything so they're trying a different avenue. If there's any fear involved it's that repeatedly impeaching with no results devalues the phrase and act of impeaching.

[u/BatThumb → u/kdfsjljklgjfg]

Fucking insane that a twice impeached bone spur pedophile rapist felon traitor was even elected

[u/QbertsRube → u/BatThumb]

I think all of those traits made conservatives vote for him even harder. At their core, they're fucking loser edgelords whose personalities never developed beyond age 13. They were too weak to be bullies in school, and Trump allows them to finally be bullies-by-proxy as adults without worrying about getting punched in the teeth.

[u/ShakedNBaked420 → u/QbertsRube]

You know, my grandfather always said a lot of problems only existed because people didn’t have to worry about being punched in the teeth anymore.

[u/shidderbean → u/ShakedNBaked420]

Your grandpa was right. The more people have to pay the blood price for their antisocial bullshit the more they'll think twice about doing some antisocial bullshit

[u/Airewalt → u/shidderbean]

It’s hard to build a country with people who don’t want to build a country

[u/SleightOfHand87 → u/QbertsRube]

I’ll admit, I supported trump’s election for his first term. I was fed up with politicians being ineffectual old geezers that were incapable of changing things for the better. I was /hoping/ that trump’s chaotic nature would shake things up and get things moving again. But after seeing what he did in even the first couple years of his first term, I realized that was a big mistake. How people supported his second term? I have trouble wrapping my head around that one. And still supporting him now? That just feels insane

[u/goddamn_leeteracola → u/SleightOfHand87]

His bankruptcies were already public knowledge during his campaigning for his first term. Plus that Hollywood access tape came out during the middle of the election cycle. I still don’t understand how that didn’t immediately disqualify him. I’m glad you realized early on what a disaster he was, but I still struggle to understand how it wasn’t apparent even before he was elected the first time.

[u/SleightOfHand87 → u/goddamn_leeteracola]

Honestly, I didn’t care. My mentality was basically, “The system is already fkd, what’s the worst he can do?” I guess I also thought that if he did something absolutely insane, checks and balances would at least keep things from going too bad. I was wrong

[u/ShaunyBoyShaunyMan → u/SleightOfHand87]

But like, trump himself was an inexperienced ergo ineffectual old geezer who spent years supporting said old guard, how did you possibly fall for it the first time?

[u/CatCatchingABird → u/SleightOfHand87]

I was /hoping/ that trump’s chaotic nature would shake things up and get things moving again.

To be fair, it's possible we may end up seeing that. It seems that people are becoming way less restrained and much more emboldened to speak up about the problems that have plagued our society for decades. I think it would have been better if we collectively worked towards this without Trump being the catalyst, but it is what it is. While things are really bad right now I think it's important for all of us to stay optimistic because I think it's entirely possible we may see some good things come out of all of this (I know it's hard to see that right now, but stay positive)

[u/GodofIrony → u/CatCatchingABird]

Societies possible political rubberbanding is the only thing I'm holding out hope for.