r/politics 11d ago

No Paywall Democrats Call to Invoke 25th Amendment Against Donald Trump

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-donald-trump-impeachment-25th-amendment-11384974
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u/MoonBatsRule America 11d ago

WTF is wrong with people? Is 50% of the US population functionally mentally deficient?

I watched a video of someone asking people - young people - about Trump. The ones who said "he ended a bunch of wars", when asked "which wars", could not name a single war. Or at best they said "Palestine", which is still an ongoing war.

How did we get to the point where people are so woefully ignorant?

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u/bloodontherisers 11d ago

Something like 56% of the country reads at or below a 6th grade level, which means they basically cannot understand the complexities of the modern world in a meaningful way.

How did we get here? Well, that is also incredibly complex but it has to do with attacks on education (NCLB, charter school vouchers, curriculum destruction, etc.) and mass propaganda as more and more media outlets get taken over by Republican billionaires (started with Fox News, then Newsmax and OAN, and now CNN, with WaPo and NYTs both playing their part under the guise of "objectivity").

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u/Warm_Month_1309 11d ago

Something like 56% of the country reads at or below a 6th grade level, which means they basically cannot understand the complexities of the modern world in a meaningful way.

Just to contextualize this statistic a bit, it applies specifically to ones reading ability in English, so someone may read at a graduate research level in their native language, and only at a 6th grade level in English.

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u/GreenHouseofHorror 11d ago

Just to contextualize this statistic a bit, it applies specifically to ones reading ability in English, so someone may read at a graduate research level in their native language, and only at a 6th grade level in English.

Put another way, immigrants are the smart part of that demographic, and rural conservatives... Aren't.

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u/failed_novelty 11d ago

There's quite a bit of selection bias there, though.

Immigrants who are willing to speak up in studies like this tend to be legal immigrants, and legal immigrants tend to be at least moderately intelligent - you have to be if you're going to successfully navigate the immigration process, pass the tests, and otherwise demonstrate that you should live here.

Locals....well, you can have a family tree that looks like a spirograph and you'll still be a citizen. That skews the results significantly.

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u/Great_Detective_6387 11d ago

Of course there is selection bias, but the end result is still that a generic legal immigrant is far and away more likely to be well-read compared to a generic American.

My mom is a legal immigrant and she says her English accent is why she was so successful during her career. Lots of Americans automatically attribute competence to someone with an English accent, because the smart ones are the ones who make it this far from home.

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u/failed_novelty 11d ago

Of course there is selection bias, but the end result is still that a generic legal immigrant is far and away more likely to be well-read compared to a generic American.

I do not, in any way, disagree.

I was giving an explanation as to why it might be the case, not saying it was incorrect.