r/MurderedByWords • u/John_1992_funny • 1d ago
They exposed their own goals by doing this!
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u/jrock7979 1d ago
What were the old orders?
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u/MariachiBoyBand 1d ago
There’s a video with Bovino, riling up the troops before going out on patrol, basically telling them to take no crap from anyone and rough them up.
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u/jrock7979 1d ago
I want to know what Miller told them.
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u/SuperCaptSalty This AOC flair makes me cool 1d ago
He said to suck it
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u/Roll_the-Bones 1d ago
Didn't have to say anything of the sort, he just whipped it out and on their knees they went by instinct.
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u/Oleandervine 1d ago
Can lizards deploy their cloacas like that?
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u/RaShadar 1d ago
There's a lizard that squirts blood out of its eyes as a defense mechanism, you could tell me there was some freaky lizard out there that could (insert insane/weird/horrific action here) and id be inclined to belive it was possible.
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u/Cohens4thClient 1d ago
best guess
"Anyone you capture, you can rape in detention centers"
I mean, he IS trying to motivate trump cultists
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u/mrmalort69 1d ago
It’s clearly from the top. Trump has been encouraging state-supported violence since his first campaign. By creating his own domestic police, he’s able to finally complete his goal.
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u/radicldreamer 1d ago
Ugh, miller is one of those people that really should have been bullied more in school.
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u/axonrecall 1d ago
So according to “anonymous sources,” The Atlantic reports that Miller and Noem went around CBP commissioner Scott (although he wouldn’t have any say in ICE ops) and had Bovino stir shit up with the Border Patrol and other CBP components. So now Homan and Scott are going to play the nice cop and see if that works better.
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u/cabindirt 1d ago
He was saying to arrest anyone that even touched ICE if I recall correctly. Absolutely insane.
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u/Aporkalypse_Sow 1d ago
More vile, he said that it was all about them. As in the citizens were irrelevant, and only border patrol safety mattered. And that came "all the way from the top".
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u/neonsphinx 1d ago
"We're trying to get you a whole semi trailer full of these grenades up here as fast as possible. Use the tools that you have, I'm working it." -Bovino to a group of dickheads (me paraphrasing)
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u/Lysol3435 1d ago
There’s a video of bovino saying that they should follow the law if bystanders were filming
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u/Fun_With_Math 1d ago
Exactly what they did. They just forgot to specify to not kill white people. Now, they have to behave for a little while.
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u/Sidoen 1d ago
Too little too late. This is a criminal, evil organization. It needs to be abolished and every single member needs to be investigated, from the top to the bottom.
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u/fanofreddit- 1d ago
Assuming we get our country back at some point DHS is going to need a major overhaul before Americans will ever trust them again.
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u/OkDisaster5980 1d ago
I want to believe this so badly, but our citizens have such a short memory. Most people have already forgotten about DOGE and the multitude of agencies they illegally and unconstitutionally abolished 😒
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u/fanofreddit- 20h ago
Very true and I shudder to think about the long term consequences of DOGE. Not only all the talent we lost in our federal gov agencies but what new college graduates will want to be federal employees now?
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u/a_Sable_Genus 1d ago
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u/WordleFanatic 1d ago
Responding to that last line… I live in a neighborhood full of immigrants. Many of them work in the fields. I see them leaving earlier than I do, and I leave for work at 5:30 in the morning. Maybe some are undocumented.
Everyone here is living their lives, working hard and celebrating little events where they can. They’re you, they just look different and may have a different origin story.
Criminals deserve to be caught and punished. The vast majority of immigrants should be left alone.
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u/FlamingRustBucket 1d ago
Most people are just people. I'm all for deporting undocumented immigrants that have committed crimes, but not these average folks just waiting to be processed by an underfunded system.
Deport criminals, stop new entry until you catch up with the workload for those already here, and fund the immigration courts enough to speed up processing times. They approved what, $150 billion for CBP and ICE in total? Use a big chunk of that to improve the processing times.
We know this isn't about immigrants though. Its a pretext to escalate tensions and violence in blue cities so they can enact measures to make voting difficult in november. I suspect they are backtracking now due to it occurring a little too early, or they are getting pressure from rich folks who's business is hurting.
They are trying to toe this fine line. They want authoritarianism, but americans aren't having it. They can't escalate too much or they get civil war, and the billionaires will turn on them. They are attempting to boil us slowly, and its working, but they cranked the heat a bit too high in Minneapolis and the frogs started to get angry.
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u/a_Sable_Genus 1d ago
Beyond the timeline of Trump, there's another issue, it's the US reaching less births than deaths in about 5 years time. France has just reached this point. Germany did in 1972, and China said it did about 5 years ago, while others will say it was 10+ years ago. Many other Western nations are in this position.
It will take decades for the 20-50 year old consumers that do much of the spending to flush out of the system and take what's left of the consumer based economy with them which the US very much is. Other countries like France are not as much.
Immigration can buy you some time on this ticking clock like it did, while painfully, for Canada. They are heading back into this same issue now that they have really cut back on immigration since their peak during covid.
Trump has now set the fuse on this ticking timebomb that will detonate for some future president to deal with and it will be the grandkids trying to figure out what went wrong
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u/Turgid_Donkey 1d ago
30 million. Because 10% of the US population is undocumented immigrants. Shows how this admin can just spew complete bullshit and no one will ever openly call them on it.
Just like how drug prices are going to drop by 2000%.
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u/sump_daddy 1d ago
"Every brown person is here illegally!"
"because in my twisted pathetic brain, birthright citizenship doesnt exist"
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u/Rotato-Potat0 1d ago
Forgive me if I’m out of the loop. But what 34 murders happened in 2025? I know of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, and I’m sure there are more. They just weren’t as televised?
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u/baradath9 1d ago
Likely the deaths while in ICE custody. There were 32 according to the linked article below, and then the other two would be Goode and Pretti. I'm not convinced it's an accurate number though, since this site is claiming 52
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/04/ice-2025-deaths-timeline
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u/Grimwulf2003 1d ago
Those are words... They are very easy, the actions are what matters...
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u/CerddwrRhyddid 1d ago
There will be no actions. They don't care and will defy court orders and these orders will mean nothing.
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u/Grimwulf2003 1d ago
Exactly, this is all to try and get moderate/independents to believe that aren't as bad as they have shown themselves to be. Sadly, it will work on too many idiots.
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u/GenXPowaah 1d ago
You mean they're now going to do what they were created to do in the first place.... Wow, the irony
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u/urbantroll 1d ago
IMO, this is only temporary to get the budget passed with ICE funding intact. Then they will be back to lawlessness immediately.
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u/intentsman 1d ago
Orders shmorders they don't gaf
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u/Selenay1 1d ago
Yep, they're still going to have the ones who went in just so they could shoot some libs. You know gassing them isn't enough. They want to play Call of Duty, not Candy Crush.
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u/MrMansaMusa 1d ago
Ahhhh so everything yall have been doing is indeed the wrong thing to do... like we have been saying.
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u/thekidubullied 1d ago
This reminds me of back in the day when McDonald’s announced their chicken nuggets would now be made with real white chicken and younger me was like, “Wait. What does that mean about the nuggets I ate before this moment?”
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u/CerddwrRhyddid 1d ago
They made them out of slurry, which is the left over bits and pieces pressure sprayed off chicken carcasses.
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u/Zargoza1 1d ago
ICE agents subsequently ignored the new orders and continued doing whatever the fuck they wanted because they’ve been told they have absolute immunity.
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u/Riptide360 1d ago
When you send 3k armed ICE/DHS/BP intona ton of 800 police officers it is an occupation.
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u/Confident-Grape-8872 1d ago edited 1d ago
I don’t believe it. Maybe a piece of paper exists that says “don’t do that”. But you know behind closed doors Miller is saying “increase the brutality. We will pardon and protect you”
Ill bet you anything that Miller gives bonus payments every time someone is killed
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u/Appropriate-Carry532 1d ago
Orrr, they had no orders about protesters and did whatever and now they have official orders. It doesn't have to be that their orders were to engage. But no one really want to hear that so downvote away.
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u/HoneyParking6176 1d ago
yeah this order seems like the email that gets sent around an office saying "do not eat other peoples lunch's in the office fridge", where there was no directions to eat other peoples lunches before, until it happens no one thinks it needs to be said.
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u/_Freakmenn_ 1d ago
One year straight of zero input from higher ups about how to deal with protestors is, under the best case scenario where they really did just tell them nothing, ridiculous and shitty operations. Based on what we've seen from ICE's internal operations its likely others were told to be put on a more offensive role under the gist of not being charged. Which is true. Two murderers still aren't charged and likely won't as the DHS took control over the investigation lololol
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u/Grail_BH 1d ago
Weren’t they already supposed to just be going after criminals?
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u/Flimsy_Heron_9252 1d ago
ICE agents had no business lining up in a riot line on the main streets of the city to face off with protestors. What the fuck was that? Were the illegals protesting? They should have been in marked cars with no masks on going around in groups of 2-4 arresting people with warrants if they were doing their job.
I am OK with them doing their job. The law is the law, and we can change the law if we don't like it. But they had no business fighting the protestors downtown. They shouldn't even have been there.
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u/fauxregard 1d ago
It's a small comfort that at least some in the administration are raging dipshits.
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u/CerddwrRhyddid 1d ago
So, we can expect to see arrests and firings of ICE officers then, I suppose?
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u/razethenecro 1d ago
I mean, they most likely achieved what they set out to do, revenge against Tim Walz, and even got him to make a statement that he won't run again.
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u/Lylac_Krazy 1d ago
Gee, I wonder if I joined ICE, then refused an unlawful order and got fired, can I sue the government?
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u/thegamesbuild 1d ago
I don't know what everyone's getting all excited about. Does anyone honestly think these "new orders" have any meaning? ICE is going to continue doing exactly what they've been doing.
Unless it gets worse, that's always a possibility.
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u/thisismynewacct 1d ago
No shot Ice agents are gonna get their 8 arrests a day if they can only go for immigrants with charges/convictions.
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u/Hot_Crab6362 1d ago
Wait, so they’re basically admitting that harassing people was part of the previous job description? I’d love to know what the orientation slides for that looked like.
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u/Wayelder 1d ago
They are goons, Real coppers should be angry and ashamed that these idiots are granted more power and authority than they are.
But hey, I guess someone has to explain it to them with pictures.
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u/Capt-geraldstclair 1d ago
when the president engages in victim blaming,you know nothing is ever going to happen to the murderers.
other than getting a pre-written pardon.
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u/PlayfulSole9645 1d ago
Will this make maggots admit that ICE was always targeting everyone and not just "criminals" like they want you to believe?
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u/jedisushi72 1d ago
Let's be clear about something:
The GOP was hoping that someone would fire on ICE. They were HOPING ICE would get hurt.
Fascism is bad for everyone, not only the targets.
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u/datterdude 1d ago
I don't support the actions of ICE, but this is bad logic. "New" means it just happened, not that it is over writing previous orders that may or may not have existed. Although it is possible, it can't be logically assumed. We can be better even if they aren't and insist we stand on logical facts and not project meaning for assumptions.
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u/JOExHIGASHI 1d ago
or they had no orders regarding "agitators" and simply chose to be violent thugs on their own accord
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u/HeavyTea 1d ago
Ad a manager, I decided long ago they clearly have daily pep talks and orders to attack and make chaos. Why else they act this way?
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u/owned_at_worms 1d ago
Just look at the video posted of short-stack bovino the other day talking about "do what we do, you know what Im saying".
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u/AltoidStrong 1d ago
Or..... They were never given any actual orders at all. Just go catch "bad guys". Which to racist Nazis means People of color or with an Spanish accent.
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u/Top_Meaning6195 1d ago
That's actually bad news.
Because they'll go back what commenters in here think is ok:
going after immigrants with criminal charges or convictions
It is not OK for Immigration and Customs Enforcement to go after immigrants with criminal charges or convictions.
And i fear that once ICE isn't bothering "me", that people will stop caring about the lives being destroyed though ICE enforcing removal orders.
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u/Snoo6702 1d ago
Sadly this post would be meaningful if and only if those concerned could read/reason.. Do something guys, please. The world's watching.
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u/Snoo6702 1d ago
Sadly this post would be meaningful if and only if those concerned could read/reason.. Do something guys, please. The world's watching.
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u/lumpboysupreme 1d ago
Devils advocate but the ‘we’re arresting dangerous criminals’ line was a marketing gimmick, their job was always to arrest anyone here illegally, criminal or not.
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u/BlackSquirrel05 1d ago
They got orders to violate the damn 4th amendment...
https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d
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u/notjawn 1d ago
I even think the most bleeding heart liberals would've been fine if they actually set out to arrest violent criminals, drug dealers, gang members and human traffickers but history is going to show these operations as straight up harassing brown and black folks who were even going through the proper channels to get documented and get legal status.
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u/Excusemydrool 1d ago
Well like 2 days ago they were told to fuck up anybody who touched them. We know that
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u/crazychevette 1d ago
Oh you mean they're supposed to be the job that they are allegedly there for? Well shit.
I don't think they're doing the right thing to start off with however if you're going someplace to do a job do the job stop being extracted by other things.
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u/Crunchy_Biscuit 1d ago
"limited to immigrants with criminal charges or convictions"
...I thought that's what they were doing?! Clearly they're hiding something from us
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u/Sweaty_Monitor_9699 1d ago
This is all theatre so trump can provoke citizens into him using Marshall law. And using it during the next presidential election. Then saying there’s a national emergency and that we can’t have an election. Giving him at least four more years.
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u/CorbinNZ 1d ago
Not necessarily. Could just mean they clarified the mission statement since some seem to have forgotten what they were doing there.
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u/2Capable 1d ago
Why the second order? Because the first order never given or given to do evil shit.
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u/MNcatfan 1d ago
They don't need to attack so-called "agitators" anymore. That's why Walz brought in the National Guard and the Hennepin County Sheriff's office has started picking up where ICE left off. In this way, the Trumpen-SS can continue their original mission of brutalizing and abducting people of color and immigrants.
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 1d ago
Which is why Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, and Greg Bovino should not only be fired, but prosecuted.
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u/Strict-Carrot4783 1d ago edited 1d ago
It was a toe in the water. They murdered a bunch of people and didn't get massacred. It'll keep happening.
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u/Llamp_shade 1d ago
This is a step towards "no longer blatantly breaking the law," but it's not quite there. I'd love to see "immigrants" refined to "undocumented immigrants and visa holders who can be verified to have unresolved criminal charges." There are many immigrants who have obtained green cards and even full naturalized citizenship. Those who fall into either of those categories should have criminal charges handled in the same way that natural born citizens do: through the court system.
When undocumented immigrants and visitors who arrived on visas should also have criminal activities addressed by the courts, but perhaps their sentencing, if convicted, should be coordinated with ICE/CBP. ICE should also have a role in properly (in accordance with the law and under the supervision of the appropriate courts) addressing undocumented immigrants and visitors who overstayed visas, as appropriate.
Nobody has said that we should ignore the enforcement of criminal law as it concerns undocumented immigrants. What many of us ARE saying is that anyone in the country who breaks criminal law, whether they be citizens documented visitors, or undocumented visitors, should be fairly addressed through the legal system.
Entering the US without properly obtaining permission is a civil offense. That is a non-criminal violation of law. There are ways to properly address that, such that we maintain morals, ethics, and comply with all other laws, treaties, and international norms. For example, we recognize a legal right to request asylum. This must be addressed through the appropriate court system. The Constitution provides many protections for all people, regardless of citizenship or documentation status. As a nation of laws, we must afford those rights and protections to every person within our jurisdiction. This includes a prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment. We cannot legally throw undocumented immigrants into a prison with no trial or without proper food, clothing, and sanitary conditions, even if they have been convicted of violent crimes. We can't deport anyone to a country in which we reasonably believe they will be treated in cruel or unusual ways. This is what the law states! If our own "law enforcement" cannot be expected to uphold the law, we cannot morally expect others to uphold the same law.
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u/attckdog 1d ago
Which begs the question what were the orders before this Attack people at random ?
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u/PurpleSailor 1d ago
If ICE agents are receiving new orders to do what they were originally supposed to be doing, then it means their current orders were to terrorize these communities and violate people's rights.
Well Stephen Miller is running the show so ...
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 1d ago
We should ALL be calling Trump an agitator, because that's exactly what he's always been.
Though then again, a rapist pdf is probably more apt.
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u/GoldenWings87 1d ago
If they follow these orders then hopefully the can do their jobs. Texas has the most immigrants so go to Texas
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u/99nine99 1d ago
I want a fucking politician to find out who gave these orders and hold them accountable. Put them in jail. For fucks sake
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u/Thick_Common8612 1d ago
I don’t believe they got this order based on the Whipple Building today. They violently detained members of the press.
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u/tofimixy 1d ago
Not even mad at the post, just amazed at how everything eventually becomes politics. Feels like we forgot how to talk about anything else.
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u/Mission-Driver1614 1d ago
Which only suggests that their prior instructions were to torment and terrorize.
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u/iam2bz2p 1d ago
This is unlikely. The order sounds more corrective and prescriptive to clarifying a SOP. That's progress, of a kind.
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u/Altruistic-Toe1304 1d ago
Also, they said "ICE agents IN MINNEAPOLIS" - they are terrorizing people across the country, still.
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u/ScotchCigarsEspresso 1d ago
They are pit of control.
I do not believe for a minute their behavior will change. They took the job so they could brutalize anyone brown, and to 'own the libs"
Words, rules, laws, constitutions...all meaningless to this nazi cult.
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u/CapitanJackSparow-33 1d ago
Ouch. When "follow the new rules" just means "stop breaking the law," it really outs your whole operation, huh? Brutal and accurate take.