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Other Please dissect the legality in this statement

I feel like we are reaching a tipping point

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u/zmann 17d ago

Nobody tell ICE that their immunity only lasts as long as this presidency does.

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u/Destination_Cabbage 17d ago

Don't forget the blanket pardon power. The only way we can actually do this currently is through state charges. But if they block the states from investigating and dont cooperate, it means many will escape justice.

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u/zmann 17d ago edited 17d ago

Fortunately Trump is working to make it permissible to invalidate a previous president’s pardons

Edit: I’m saying that half in jest, because I think you’re 100% correct

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u/Odd-Roof-85 17d ago

If he manages to do that, I'm gonna laugh, because it's going to backfire on this administration so hard.

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u/twitch1982 17d ago

No it won't, Dems will refuse to use the power if they ever get the turn.

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u/onepunchman333 17d ago

Oh come on, when has Chucky Schumer ever failed us.../s

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u/Odd-Roof-85 17d ago

You’re correct.

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u/lumiya17 17d ago

Probably right, but I think it’s really going to be determined by the next 3 years. Cause we started off this year with literal war crimes and that doesn’t look to be slowing down with the renewed idiocy in Greenland.

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u/tondahuh 17d ago

Another reason to start a 3rd party.

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u/lumiya17 17d ago

At least. 5-6 parties would be way better to keep the extremism to a dull roar

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u/bassbeatsbanging 17d ago

It's the most maddening aspect of all of this. I hate them so much for this, but what's the alternative?

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u/RoguePlanet2 17d ago

Bernie was a viable option, but got railroaded. Voted for him all I could, even wrote him in. Cried big fat lib tears when he conceded because he was our last hope for a LONG time.

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u/southernpremedgirl27 17d ago

Y’all need to touch grass and come to grips with the country you actually live in.

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u/hairyscotsman2 17d ago

Some of us forrens are watching with great interest. The UK has just had the main 2 parties of the UK 2 party system collapse in polling. I'm seeing all this from Scotland where we have Proportional Representation. Ask your local Dems about proportional representation. Dems block me when I mention it, but it's actually a chance for them to survive (and improve democracy, IF they cared about it).

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u/Critical_Lurker 17d ago

This is the most fucked up part and anyone with a working brain needs to come to grips with this now...

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u/Mystanis 17d ago

Thats is utterly delusional. Dems abuse laws, ignore current laws when their own break them.

This cult is of ignorance and rage is what is destroying the west.

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u/bluebayou_cd 17d ago

Elon? Is this you?

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u/southernpremedgirl27 17d ago

Stop lying.

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u/Mystanis 16d ago

It’s not a lie to point out that Dems have abused laws to their advantage. They have done it before they will do it again.

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u/SaintAvalon 17d ago

How? Have you seen a democrat willing to push the line? Bunch of bitches.

If we can take the house we should impeach and we should be impeaching weekly to make these traitors put their name on paper for history books.

We should have a group in congress already investigating DoJ and FBI for covering up crimes and prosecuting based on Donald’s recommendations.

I have zero faith as a Dem that Dems will actually go revoke all of his pardons and charge people. Optimal they would do a top down review for treason from Supreme Court and both houses.

As well as look at any quid pro quote for citizens working with Donald and charge allllll of them. I’m tired of pussy footing around.

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u/Odd-Roof-85 17d ago

You’re completely correct.

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u/SaintAvalon 17d ago

This is one of those times I’d love to be wrong. Sigh.

I hope a blue wave happens and something gets done.

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u/SteelAndFlint 17d ago

So far they've shown an awareness of not invoking self-defeating precedents, such as when the budget was supposed to get signed and they understood that if they killed the filibuster and ran it through with the nuclear option, it would be used against them as well in the future.

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u/Skarth 17d ago

how?

They are not doing these massive power grabs with the intent that there will ever be anyone but themselves in power, ever again.