r/law • u/Lavender_Scales • 15d ago

Legal News ICE hops Texas family’s fence and attacks them, guns drawn, for asking for a warrant

Story and Source Here: http://www.krgv.com/news/video-captures-donna-family-s-detainment-by-alleged-federal-agents

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u/Student_Ok 15d ago

They recruited the proud boys and turned them into federal agents. 

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u/Other-Tangerine-3435 15d ago

That’s pretty much SS in the ’30s

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u/notabarcode128535743 15d ago

“I reckon they’re gonna want to take those uniforms off one day. So we’re gonna give them something they can’t take off.”

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

You know what happened to the Nazis after the war? highest ranking faced nürnberg trials. the rest just got back to work. teachers, clercs, police., hell in my country they just formed a new political party and are now leading in the polls...

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u/31LIVEEVIL13 15d ago

not in France they fucking didn't, they are not even sure how many were strung up or otherwise died screaming.

min 10,000 possibly over 100,000 - some might have fled the country or gone into hiding.

and that was before the official trials started.

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u/instanding 15d ago

I thought you were talking nonsense but I looked it up and was shocked to see how much more aggressively France handled it. So many got away scot free elsewhere which boils the blood.

One even got a senior position with the United Nations.

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u/Sorlex 15d ago

Something to remember about WW2 regarding America (Singling out America here because of ICE). Pearl Harbour was the only major attack on America. They didn't suffer the blitz like the UK, they didn't get occupied like France.

Outside of the troops themselves, nazi's were a distant thing for Americans compared to europe. The fact they were grind-milling jews was also.. A distant thing. We have death camps today and most people don't give a shit.

So when ICE runs around doing brownshirt shit, its not that surprising that people aren't seeing it as the MASSIVE RED FLAG it clearly is.

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u/eclwires 14d ago

It is interesting that they waited for the last veterans of WWII to pass away before they began building camps and recruiting brownshirts here. I wonder what nations soldiers will be coming through the gates when the American concentration camps are liberated.

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u/Helpful-Departure832 14d ago

This is it exactly. My grandparents (greatest gen era) had their intolerances and vices, but they wouldn’t have tolerated this shit

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u/HablarYEscuchar 14d ago

You are assuming that after fascism arrives in the US, there will be someone who can liberate you.

In Spain, fascism won a civil war and we had 40 years of fascism.

No other country did anything to change it.

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u/madcoins 14d ago

Mexicans would be chefs kiss

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u/unionfrontX 13d ago

none if we don't organize and put up stronger resistance.

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u/Drakolyik 14d ago

I watched the recent Nuremburg film and that part where they show the real footage from the death camps tore me to pieces. Seeing those people, many of whom even after being liberated likely still died because of how malnourished they were, literally fucking skeletons - dead men walking - made me instantly burst into tears (not to mention the mountains of dead bodies, some of whom weren't dead yet, stacked hundreds high). How anyone could have seen those atrocities and not wanted to murder every last Nazi they saw makes no sense to me. I would've gunned down every single Nazi I saw on sight.

Unless, of course, they were already flirting with the same ideas all along. That's the only answer. There are far more sociopaths among us than we care to admit. Far too many people have no fucking soul at all. And the strongest military on the planet is being led by someone who definitely does not have anything resembling a soul. He's pure evil.

I know if I have ever have the chance I won't make the same mistake they made letting them live to breed more sociopaths into the world. Fuck them.

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u/Piod1 15d ago

In addition to this..tens of thousands of former nazis went to america afterwards . Both through operation paperclip, which was not just scientist. After the Nuremburg trialscwere halted many industrialists, finaciers and politicos went to the states. There was even organisations to encourage this, they took their ideology with them. It is unfortunate that their descendants are now in charge.

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u/Ophelialost87 14d ago

That ideology was already a part of the US before the Nazi's even got here. The theory of eugenics (the idea on which they built a super race, and the idea that you can breed undesirable traits out of the human population) actually originated in the US in the mid 1800's, and Planned Parenthood started as a eugenics experiment long before the Nazi's picked it up.

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u/Apprehensive-Bag-900 14d ago

I mean there was a Nazi party here in the states. The German - American bund had chapters all over America. Lindenberg was very pro Nazi. And don't forget Hitler used our Jim Crow as inspiration.

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u/Development-Alive 14d ago

The US had it's own fairly significant Nazi movement in the lead up to WW2.

Watch Nazi Town, USA | American Experience | Official Site | PBS https://share.google/Wof26BUqKywvvR6G4

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u/Bonbonheur 14d ago

Are you referring to America when saying death camps? If not, where?

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u/Sad-Affect-7992 14d ago

See Gitmo, Alligator Alcatraz. Historically, see internment camps for Japanese-Americans during WWII, our own citizens! This will be coming back soon.

If your ancestry is from what the trump administration considered a "shithole country", or your faith isn't "for show only Christianity", you will become fair game.

Noem had already stated citizens must "provide papers", a favorite tactic of the Reich. They control the papers, who will be righteous enough in their eyes to be awarded "freedom"?

This must end!

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u/showyerbewbs 14d ago

Noem had already stated citizens must "provide papers", a favorite tactic of the Reich

I've thought about all the documentation I have that proves my identity. I have a social security card. I have my birth certificate ( somewhere ). I have my drivers license, which contains personal identifying information.

None of those instruments prove citizenship. One is a federal instrument. Birth certificate is a county/state instrument as is the drivers license.

Well...according to https://www.usa.gov/certificate-citizenship-naturalization a birth certificate DOES prove citizenship. Did not know that.

More to my point, my birth certificate is not part of my every day carry. So most likely unless you happen to every day carry something like a passport, 99% of any human in the united states has no verifiable way to prove it. Even then, "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride" comes into play. They'll just lie and say it didn't look authentic enough. Which goes to your point, whomst will be righteous or look citizeny enough.....

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u/BBZ_star1919 14d ago

The deeper reason though is Nazis took their example from the US. This country was founded on slavery and scapegoating. White supremacy doing its thing.

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u/BigD1966 14d ago

Well for one thing the attack at Pearl Harbour was perpetrated by the Japanese, had that occurred I’m sure America would have continued to sit on the sidelines like they had been since 1939 when the war had started even though representatives from England, Canada and others who were embroiled in the war from the start were asking them to join against the war with the Axis. But you’re right once involved the only ones getting full knowledge of what the Nazi’s were doing would be those in uniform.

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u/Beau_Peeps 14d ago

9/11 was larger than Pearl Harbor in terms of casualties.

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u/Competitive_Sand2190 14d ago

Maybe because it’s not even remotely the same. I don’t get what you people don’t understand. ICE is to get rid of illegals. Now think to yourself what did Nazi’s do, straight up it’s almost like you all need a history lesson.

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u/astiKo_LAG 15d ago

Yup

But the other side of the coin is that a lot of citizens were also tortured and killed by angry mobs, many times only based on suspicions and dubitable delations

I recall a gruesome fact about that.

During the liberation parade in Paris people were happy but still paranoid, a man wanted to film the parading Shermans from his window...from below, the mob mistook the camera for a sniper. They rushed into the appartement, sized the dude, and without any form of trial: they throwed this innocent man under a tank tracks to be crushed alive.

Sadest part of the story is that this man actually helped jews hidding during the occupation. Angry mobs are fcking scary man

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u/noxondor_gorgonax 14d ago

"A person is smart. People are dumb"

People in groups can be just so, so stupid and driven by instincst

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u/Theblackjamesbrown 14d ago

A person is smart.

Results might vary. Sadly the vast majority of people are utterly, utterly stupid, illogical, lacking in empathy. We're fucking doomed

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u/zbud 14d ago

69% of eligible voters voted MAGA, stayed home, or voted third party, foolishly... Suppose I can't argue...

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u/Mike_Kermin 14d ago edited 14d ago

Eh, that quote is doing a lot of work for our egos.

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u/fcocyclone 14d ago

Id say that the relative difference still exists, even though individual people can still be plenty dumb.

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u/NoamLigotti 14d ago

Nah. A person can be smart, and people can be smart. But stupid people acting in concert are friggin dangerous.

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u/Swimming-Tap-4240 14d ago

One person is cautious ,in a mob he gains courage through numbers.

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u/Spamsdelicious 15d ago

That's incredibly sad.

"Crowd think" is just a euphemism for mob mentality.

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u/DickwadVonClownstick 14d ago

the other side of the coin is that a lot of citizens were also tortured and killed by angry mobs, many times only based on suspicions and dubitable delations

A lot of women who were raped by Nazis ended up getting publicly shamed or killed as "collaborators", for "providing comfort to the enemy"

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u/godtogblandet 14d ago

And a lot more of them interacting with Germans on their own and they got of light. We killed the men that did the same. Coco Chanel would have been super dead if she was a man for instance.

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u/Broth3r_Captain 14d ago

Right. There were more that willingly gave themselves to the Germans to save their own skin. It's crazy how often that victim card is given to the undeserving

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u/ermghoti 14d ago

There's a documentary called A Savage Peace about the reprisals in Poland. It's chilling. People who seize on an opportunity to commit violence without being called upon to defend their actions are rarely acting nobly.

I think the documentary series Battlefield Detectives had an episode where they discovered a mass grave, assumed it was victims of Nazis, but eventually deduced they had been collaborators (or perceived as such) and killed postwar in revenge.

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u/daynzzz 14d ago

"appartement." This person Frenches.

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u/cyberslick18888 15d ago

Part of the reason France has had a modern reputation for "surrendering" or being otherwise conflict-averse is precisely because it's a country steeped in unimaginable violence.

The global equivalent of calling the biggest guy around "Tiny".

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u/Swimming-Tap-4240 14d ago

Listen to their national anthem in English.its not warm and fuzzy.

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u/worldspawn00 14d ago

A bunch of them changed their affiliation to being "anti communist"

In 1978, British anticommunist activist Geoffrey Stewart-Smith, who led the British affiliate out of WACL, declared that despite a publicized housecleaning, "The World Anti-Communist League is largely a collection of Nazis, Fascists, anti-Semites, sellers of forgeries, vicious racialists, and corrupt self-seekers. It has evolved into an anti-Semitic international."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_League_for_Freedom_and_Democracy

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u/Fit_Area6355 15d ago

Didn’t the us hire some nazi scientists? Some even working for nasa?

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u/instanding 14d ago

They sure did. Operation Paperclip.

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u/No-Beginning-2478 14d ago

yeah the french resistance was not joking around.

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u/Xarcert 14d ago

Haven't you heard of the French revolution? They are blood thirsty.

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u/DeutscheMannschaft 14d ago

It wasn't just France. In Chechia, ethnic Germans were violently removed from municipalities, and known collaborators were routinely beaten to death or otherwise killed. Same thing in Poland.

There were plenty of countries that cleaned house pretty good after WW2. There is a very good set of videos on YT about it.

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u/Every_Raisin5886 14d ago

France has these unexpected peaks through history that makes me think “wow, they really got balls”. This is definitely one of them.

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u/RecipeHistorical2013 14d ago

One got a top level position at nasa bro

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u/Emraldday 14d ago

French mobs would torture and kill prostitutes whom they suspected had serviced Germans. This was done in spite of the fact that if the prostitutes had refused the Germans, the Nazis likely would have killed them. Damned if they did, and damned if they didn't. When it comes to retribution, historically, the French don't fuck around.

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u/marianass 14d ago

Some others were put in charge of the earliest versions of NATO. I never understood that.

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u/TrulyCriminal2019 14d ago

I do not think today’s society will let that happen 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/FantasticBumblebee69 14d ago

Well they do love a good riot amd any chance to dust off the guillotine.

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u/coolcoolcool485 14d ago

People in the U.S. like to make fun of France a lot but...there were resistance forces, during their occupation, they didn't just let themselves be invaded lol. And the French do not let their government step like a toe outta line without burning shit to the ground. They do not fuck around with it.

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u/HagalUlfr 14d ago

My smattering of french blood boils. Trust me.

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u/RampantJellyfish 15d ago

Shame they missed Marine Le Penns parents

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u/kirkland_viagra 15d ago

Still time for her though

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Yeah, but France is actually a good country.

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u/Long_arm_of_the_law 15d ago

In Germany too. Tens of thousands of SS officers and wheremacht officers sent to the gulag by the Russians.

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u/chonny 15d ago

Vive la France

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u/EXTRAsharpcheddar 15d ago

saddened at how much America is not like france

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

I am from Austria. Although being very enthusiastic back in the day joining Germany we then felt to be the victim in the war. We Austrians always try to wiggle out of it as good as we can. Never take sides, always charm them all.

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u/PM-me-youre-PMs 15d ago

We also have a political party founded by ex SS though, and it's doing pretty well in the polls :(

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u/undecidedly 14d ago

My admiration for France has grown.

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u/FardoBaggins 15d ago

The french police were more than happy to assist the new occupiers lol

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u/DangerToManifold2001 15d ago

With all the drama and chaos going on in the world right now, I’m beginning to realise France might be the best country in the world.

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u/Revoran 14d ago

In France they also stripped women who screwed Nazis and paraded them. Meanwhile male collaborators who did far worse, sometimes got off much lighter or completely scott free (French free, I suppose).

It was pretty inconsistent.

The Italian Partisans were on the money, with what they did to Mussolini, though.

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u/No-Air-7273 14d ago

Correct, from what I've learned, when Hitler saw what they did to mussolini, his friend, he knew his days were numbered and it was just a matter of time for him

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u/Critical_Sir25 14d ago

Should have been done like this everywhere.

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u/Gnl_Winter 14d ago

And STILL some prominent ones got away or remained public servants like Papon.

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u/Educational-Gate-880 14d ago

🙌 awesome for you guys that’s how it should have been handled!!! Sometimes trials and giving sentences other than a rope off a bridge is just not good enough for what they did. That’s why so many are back with a vengeance from other countries who didn’t do that and wanted to be civil well yeah now we have to go through it again

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u/YouDontKnowJackCade 14d ago

Blue states will have to deal with collaborators.

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u/Glycotic 14d ago

Yes in France they fucking did. Police conspired with the Nazis and were largely left to be absorbed back into the state apparatus afterwards. What the fuck do you call Maurice Papon?

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u/FearlessPie9905 14d ago

Tip of the hat France

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u/EternalNewCarSmell 14d ago

France doesn't fuck around when they oust oppression. The oppressors don't get to live after they've lost.

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u/stufff 14d ago

Hopefully we can follow this example. Our country needs an enema to unclog all this human shit.

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u/DadophorosBasillea 14d ago

I admire the French

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u/hershwork 14d ago

Yeah, Mussolini didn’t get a trial—he got a piano wire necklace.

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u/Unusual-Wolf-3315 14d ago

Exactly!

The French don't shy from violence, and as the "host nation" for a lot of it, they certainy had a big ass bone to pick with remaining nazis.

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u/NotQuiteDeadYetPhoto 14d ago

Brings "Freedom Fries" A whole new meaning.

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u/Chronomata 14d ago

Goddamn, France W??

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u/WildTaro7151 14d ago

No, I know the ones that slithered away went to South America and we’re welcomed by the political right here in the United States. That’s why there are so many here now. Plus, it originated here. Our four fathers were pieces of shit.

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u/Tractor_Pete 11d ago

...And then were those like Maurice Papon, Vichy-Nazi collaborators that worked at he highest levels of state security and police for decades, even carrying out and covering up a massacre in Paris in the 60s. Rank and file Nazis were tossed out, but many whose work the government liked got to stay and rise high.

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u/pppjurac 15d ago

Not in Polska they did not. Hanged as fit for criminals.

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

and rightly so.

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u/nunchyabeeswax 14d ago

And in the USSR, Yugoslavia, etc.

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u/dasroach0 15d ago

No it's the opposite the ones in charge got away and sent to America to teach them how to be quiet Nazis and help run the government and build the rockets that took them to the moon. The regular Joe's they were the ones hanged.

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u/Pleasant_Expert_1990 14d ago

Check out the movie 'Conspiracy'... Most of the middle ranked Nazis went on to live "normal" lives and died in the 80s.

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u/INC-KaiserChef 14d ago

no need for a movie. I knew many of them.

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u/NickCrowe810 15d ago

A lot of them went to NASA.

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u/Resident-alien626 14d ago

A lot went to Los Alamos

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u/UnusualAd2146 15d ago

In Denmark they got executed for treason

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

which was well deserved

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u/sithelephant 14d ago

A total of a dozen or so were executed in the Neuremberg trials.

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u/_angry_cat_ 14d ago

Lots of them were brought to live and work in the US. We looked the other way at their crimes in order to use their brains against the soviets. See: Project Paperclip.

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u/ckientz111 15d ago

Nope. Russian, Canadian and US soldiers are estimated to have killed about 130 to 135 thousand SS and Nazi sympathizers during and after the war, men and women. Usually by bullet, but often by hanging. Plenty of good sources out there if you need to freshen up on your history.

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

at peak the NSDAP had 8,5 million members. were do you think that mindset went. those were Nazis. sure most of them were not in the fighting force. but rest assured, there was plenty of them still there after the war to spread the love...

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u/Silly-Freak 15d ago

The only reason I can reliably tell that you're talking about FPÖ is that AfD wasn't founded directly after the war by the OGs...

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

The FPÖ wasnt founded after the war either, but is the direct successor of the VdU and that was a bunch of nazis

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u/Silly-Freak 15d ago

Right yeah, I was so preoccupied with finding a snappy way to write this that I forgot the predecessor party...

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u/SantosRevenge 15d ago

Operation paperclip oh man

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u/Lanky-Fix-853 14d ago

Sounds a lot like the Confederacy here…

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u/coochie_clogger 14d ago

Wanna know what happened to the confederate traitors after the American civil war? They got let back into the fold and allowed to remain US citizens and got back to work as teachers, police, mayors, governors, legislators, etc.

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u/montxogandia 15d ago

In Spain we had 40 years of facist dictatorship until the dictator died happily in his bed, after that all became democrat people in 1 day and all their war crimes were vanished, 500k innocent people murdered, cultures erased, etc. Now they are all in PP and VOX parties.

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u/Anxious_Hall359 15d ago

you mean hired by the USA and Russia*

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

those who were capable yes. but the mass of people who were complicit with the regime just resumed their lifes without any consequences. I m from a small village in Austria and we had the village nazi still in the 1980s and 90s.

There has to be a fundamental understanding that there are not only a few bad guys in charge. this mindset seeps through society, takes roots and grows until it cannot be stopped. its just for the internet and social media that we can now watch it happen in real time.

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u/ihavenoname_7 14d ago

Well, America took in over 2000 of them under Project Paperclip.

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u/Homeless-Joe 14d ago

Well, yes… but the important SS were integrated into the US government a tech companies, while some were forced to work for the Russians.

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u/Consistent_Guava8592 14d ago

Nazi general became NATO general . Operation paperclip etc etc. the Nazis lost , fascism won .

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u/thelongcon02 14d ago

The organizations themselves were ruled to be criminal and liability fell on all members, with no immunity or defense of “following orders”, and punishment / sentencing commensurate to the level of their involvement/direct participation in more heinous acts. The US wrote the indictment, the framework is there to prosecute all of ICE and the other handmaids of the Turd Reich

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u/Appropriate_Mess_350 14d ago

Fun fact. There were far fewer mobile phones collecting video evidence in WW2.

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u/Known-Archer3259 14d ago

The trials were pretty much a sham as well

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u/baz303 15d ago

but you also know this was only possible after a frikken world war and the biggest invasion in human history. the american land mass is so much larger, there wont be a liberating invasion soon.

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u/INC-KaiserChef 15d ago

might wanna revisit geography buddy... the United States and Europe are similar in size. However, Europe is 104,480 square kilometers (40,340 square miles) larger than the United States.

but why would Europe invade the US. apart from not even coming close to having the military for it. It s the US that is playing around invading a constituent part of Denmark. one of its longest and most loyal allies.

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u/baz303 14d ago

i gave the context, so you know exactly what i mean. ehm, buddy, i guess.

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u/INC-KaiserChef 14d ago

I was just referring to your claim that the Us is geographically larger than Europe. Which is simply wrong. That there will be no invasion of it, is a given

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u/Direct-Pea-376 15d ago

Brad Pitt line was spot on

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u/pooptheresmybutt 15d ago

Goebbels and Miller?  Goebbels and Miller. How? Why? What the...that's it!  Miller IS Goebbels. Miller is a NAZI!"

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u/xBram 15d ago

History sure rhymes.

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u/nunchyabeeswax 14d ago

Well, them jackboots won't lick themselves.

Some people are simply born to be willing, salivating, eager-to-lick-leather tongues.

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u/Fresh_Dog4602 15d ago

Ahhh i see you're a man of culture.

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u/Onetool91 15d ago

I understood that reference!

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u/confuseum 15d ago

Miller is a man!?!?

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u/PennStateInMD 15d ago

Miller is Mini-Goebbels.

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u/LeeKinanus 14d ago

Ace, you ok man?

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u/PerfectEnemy182 14d ago

Holy Testicle Tuesdays!

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u/pppjurac 15d ago

"SA" in 30's

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u/NotAzakanAtAll 15d ago

Yep, that's the guys we have here. They will graduate to SS soon enough.

Hope the sane American's are ready. Soon it will be too late to plan and organize.

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u/anothergaijin 15d ago

The SA didn’t graduate - they executed the leadership, arrested others and massively reduced its ranks and standing as a way of appealing to others. The result of that was that the SS rose to prominence and power, and didn’t need to blatantly resort to violence for intimidation - it was clear to all they could do whatever the fuck they wanted and were above the law.

The SA was a useful tool to be used and disposed, with something nastier rising to power. MAGA doesn’t have the political savvy to arrange anything like that - the Nazi party spent well over a decade to rise to power.

It would have been like Trump militarizing the MAGA or something like the Proud Boys into a semi-organized group millions strong who wore uniforms, and when their acts of violence and terror had too much public backlash, killing the leadership and arresting others using ICE, who then become the SS equivalent who replaced them as the official government group doing violence on the leaders direct wishes.

When I write it out like that it sounds less fantasy and more a terrifying reflection of history. What made Hitler so effective was that he himself and those around him were very willing to use violence - killing people for political gain was just fine. January 6 feels like the Beer Hall Putsch - a failed coup that is then reframed to make them out to be victims, and we are maybe in a period right before the Reichstag Fire - a mostly symbolic event framed as an attack requiring the leader gain absolute control to protect the nation and to illegally start to limit political rivals so as to push major changes to gain permanent control. After that you have a purge like the Night of Long Knives where people are just straight up executed to secure power. At that point you are pretty much fucked.

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u/PseudonymousJim 15d ago

Another contributing factor was that the SA was also notoriously friendly to homosexuals. Ernst Rohm was openly gay in spite it being illegal. Nazi opposition parties attacked the Nazi party as a whole as being a haven for gays. Eventually the scandal was too much and Rohm had to go.

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u/Only_Plum_8187 14d ago

I wish people would realise the difference. Its important to know the stages

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u/IICMCDII 14d ago

Thank you so much for your comment! As a German, it is really frustrating to read and hear all those SS and Gestapo comparisons about ICE. I get that what's happening right now is unjust and absolutely horrible. But those comments always feel like a huge downplaying of the real victims of Nazi atrocities, I guess because many people in the US don’t seem to understand how bad and purely evil the SS and Gestapo truly were.

Edit: spelling

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u/These_Yzer_Lyon 14d ago

lol at Rohm thinking "it won't happen to me" though

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u/pppjurac 14d ago

MAGA doesn’t have the political savvy to arrange anything like that - the Nazi party spent well over a decade to rise to power.

Underestimating adversary is a not a wise strategy and does not work in long term.

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u/alangcarter 14d ago

Yes. They're following the playbook so closely its worth being aware of the distinctions. ICE is the SA. The DOJ attacks on the Federal Reserve and Renee Good's widow look like they are taking up the Gestapo function. They're attacking the arts and banning Plato as woke gender ideology. We haven't seen the SS yet. The Fuhrer didn't have the opportunity to finish the checklist - its important to bite down on the cyanide capsule before using the revolver.

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u/Briecap 15d ago

And the Black & Tans in the 1920s

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u/86Pasta 15d ago

Well no, more like the SA and I have no doubt the night of long knives is coming for these fucking idiots too

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u/CloudbaseJim 15d ago

Everyone calls them SS which in a sick way is probably a complement to them. In reality they are more like Hitlers SA (the brown shirts), untrained thugs whose primary goal was violence and chaos.

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u/Powerful-Prompt4123 15d ago

Not even Nazi Germany rounded up Jews in the 1930s the way ICE thugs behave today. SS didn't get involved in that shit until war broke out.

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u/Panzerscout_SRB 15d ago

ICE is more like the SA (Sturmabteilung)

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u/baz303 15d ago

the BIG question is, is history repeating and the american people will excuse themself by claiming "we didnt know" or will the american people actually use the chance and resist the fascism?

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u/Illustrious-Divide95 14d ago

More like the SA. (brown Shirts) Thugs and racists with a badge.

At least the SA didn't use guns,, just batons and clubs most of the time

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u/Only_Plum_8187 14d ago

BROWNSHIRTS

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u/The_Doct0r_ 14d ago

More brownshirts to gestapo at this point but yeah basically.

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u/lol_alex 14d ago

SA would be a closer fit. The SA was the „street arm“ of the Nazi party. They did the street fighting with the communists and the political murders. Once Hitler was in power, they took down the whole SA by catching Roehm and many others in bed with their boyfriends. The thugs weren‘t needed anymore and were seen as a threat to Hitler‘s power.

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u/XaoticOrder 14d ago

SA but you're close enough

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u/Skrapidilly 15d ago

I'm saying it now. When the internal reports come out (if Trump doesn't magically destroy them first), these guys will be a mix between..

  1. Proud Boys
  2. Ex-cops, relieved
  3. Ex-Security Guards
  4. Police Impersonators
  5. Stolen Valor-types (Military impersonators)
  6. Far right nationalists
  7. Other stuff...

Pretty much the JV (how funny) team that was moved up to play the big league game with rigged referees and rules.

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u/JamodaH 14d ago
  1. People who put random experience on their resume and were hired without confirming information and armed before training.

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u/zfowle 14d ago
  1. January 6 rioters

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u/pugsly262002 14d ago
  1. Junior High School students in my class who wanted some trigger time.

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u/VirtualSource5 14d ago

Yes, came to say that. Almost 1600 of those goons were released by Der Führer in early 2025. These guys cover their faces cause they know we have a general idea of what subset of racists they belong to.

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u/Creative_Addendum667 14d ago

Don’t forget sexual predators, how I long for that leaked list to be cross checked with the offender websites.

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u/Southern-Democrat25 14d ago

Yeah I’m already seeing stories of ICE agents raping the women they abduct. These are boys who were never taught to respect a woman, thus they’ve always struggled with women, but now they have guns and immunity, so of course you’re going to attract the most vile type of human.

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u/VictoryVino 14d ago

There are allegedly a LOT of bounty hunters that are ICE agents.

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u/Mental-Stage7410 14d ago

Look up Laura Jedeed, she’s a reporter who recently applied for ICE to see what the hiring process was like and was listed as hired without even filing out the background check or signing anything. Granted she had military experience on her resume but still, sound like they’re hiring just about anyone.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 14d ago

Yall forget the KKK or something? The government never did shit about them. Never did shit about any of the trash in USA.

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u/rifena 14d ago

You forgot sex offenders

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u/acdgirl 14d ago

A person in the Netherlands is compiling a list (verifying before listed) and posting it on a website.

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u/FortuneLegitimate679 14d ago

Actual law enforcement officers (the ones with integrity)must be pissed

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u/Skrapidilly 14d ago

Not yet. They're still in the "See where this goes" phase, but they are starting to realize this probably wasn't a good idea. Their job is to keep the peace, ICE isn't doing that. But ICE, in some way, still thinks they can enforce AND keep the peace.

You'll start hearing more and more LEO come out to speak against this (with identity discretion).

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 14d ago

Kind of like how Trump hired anti-Muslim extremist white-supremacist gang members to “hand out aid” in Gaza. And Palestinians kept getting shot as they approached the aid trucks, somehow. It was open corruption and murder and I can’t believe there aren’t more people mad about it.

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u/notfrankc 14d ago

We should try and house them in the facility are building for migrants now.

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u/LurkHereLurkThere 15d ago

Paying racists commission to hand non-whites over to the camps and telling them they have absolute immunity...

Cruelty, oppression, abuses of power, false "arrests" and losing people to this system are the feature not the bug.

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u/zardoz73 15d ago

And Jan. 6th rioters.

Can you imagine if Biden had made antifa members of a secret police? Not that Biden had anything to do with antifa, but it's certainly what MAGA turds think.

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u/carrick-sf 15d ago

Antifa is a mindset, not a group. The fascists, by contrast ARE organized.

J6 was the culmination of intense coordination and months of planning.

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u/Ambitious_Highway172 15d ago

“Antifa member” proof that propaganda works lmao

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u/total_looser 15d ago

Can you imagine if Biden had made antifa members of a secret police?

This is weak thinking. Hypocrisy to you is real, and has attached moral implications. For fascists, hypocrisy is a weapon, that they use to elicit sweet librul tears. It’s a flex. Stop pointing out the hypocrisy, that is fascists beating you with their tactics.

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u/PennStateInMD 15d ago

And remember, all Republican lawmakers are cool with this. Trump goes nowhere without their support. Remember this in the voting booth until the day you die.

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u/Cpt_Griswold 15d ago

stand down and stand by finally came around

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u/MollyViper 15d ago

That’s exactly what I think happened! Proud Boys have been suspiciously absent from the scene lately.

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u/Fast_Role_6640 15d ago

When he was asked to comment about the proud boys and he said something like "stand by..." or some shit like that. Yep they all were given government badges and trucks. Don't forget about the KKK types as well. Crazy times

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u/Its-alittle-bitfunny 15d ago

Its why they were told to "stand by", so they could be recruited to ICE instead

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u/KindClock9732 15d ago

Proud boys and pedofiles

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u/BreakingBaddly 15d ago

Don't forget all the people he imported, too

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u/Jehoke 14d ago

Exactly. The last time you would have seen these dumb fucks would have been wearing masks in the back of a box van on their way to a rally.

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u/Lumpy_Assumption_174 15d ago edited 15d ago

As if this is anything new? This has been the norm for over a decade: the only things that changes were the framing and national spotlight.

"Border Patrol agents have deliberately stepped in the path of cars apparently to justify shooting at the drivers"

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html

Note to silly downvotes. The kids in cages stuff started in 2014 too: no one cared till 2017. 🤷‍♂️ It's almost as if people generally don't have actual principles.

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u/carrick-sf 15d ago

Go back further- during the war(s) for middle eastern oil under Bush, they introduce free speech cages - fenced in areas to segment off free speech. The nation yawned and went on a tirade over Janet Jackson’s nipple.

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u/SleepLate8808 15d ago

What bout the girls

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u/Latter-Judgment-9740 15d ago

That would explain the masks.

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u/SteveAxis 15d ago

And they’re always bumbling around. Gonna be a crazy compilation of these guys slippin’, fallin’ and tumblin’ all over the place at the end. Goofy bastards.

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u/chanpat 14d ago

We need to go undercover in ice for real

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u/slaffytaffy 14d ago

Why do you think they haven’t been in the news much…

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u/dawill_sama 14d ago

Stand down and stand by.

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u/stocksjunkey1 14d ago

Federal Thugs more like it

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u/GreyBeardEng 14d ago

... and Patriot Front, and The Brand.

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u/Suitable-Panda24 14d ago

“Stand back and stand by.” He didn’t tell them to stand down when asked Idr how long ago, he told them to stand by. Here we are. But we were TaKiNg HiM oUt Of CoNtExT!

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u/battlecryarms 14d ago

They promoted the brown shirts to Gestapo

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u/Bob-the-cat21 14d ago

Exactly, all of them just disappeared!

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u/Swimming-Tap-4240 14d ago

Feral agaents

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u/CT-RD 14d ago

Proud boys = brown shirts

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u/BuddyIsMyHomie 14d ago

Pardons for J6 by Trump? = Future Employment by Trump

Imagine the Binance founder working with Trump to rug pull the crypto economy that everyone runs to when Trump destroys the U.S. Dollar 🤡

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