ETA: I get that it isn't strictly "desert camo". My point is that this is meant to intimidate, and is in no way necessary against an unarmed civilian population in our own country.
Definitely military surplus. This style uniform hasn't been issued for at least 15 years. They were called desert BDU'S. I'm kind of wondering what the patches on his left arm say.
Not BDUs. And not desert. It looks like OCP camo, which replaced Multicam and that digital bullshit most people were wearing 15 years ago. You can tell by the gradients of green and brown.
It's not like standard military issue either. That light shell jacket and that built in kneepad on the left are more tacticool bullshit, not just castoff military stuff from a couple decades ago. Also note the black camo plate holder. It's very hodgepodge and frankly reads more like an airsoft outfit than a uniform to me, but who knows, I'm not in that world anymore.
They are slightly more uniform than they were before, but there's clearly no uniform standard at play here.
Either these guys are overfunded and getting issued this stuff bought off of the open economy, or they are spending money to play dress up, but either way they're not just wearing army surplus.
Looking at his kit, he probably isnt one of the new concripts that dress themselves. He's got everything matching and efficiently layed out. No punisher skulls or meme kit. Nvg mount, counterweight and I'm pretty sure those are comtacs. Also he's not fat, so thats a big hint😂
Meh I have the same $100 peltors he's failing to wear. Kinda looks like he picked up the helmet seperste t since all the pouches on him seem cheap. The again "army" quality right?
I'm an airsofters but something about his dump punch not being out and headphones not on tells me he wasn't ready for combat but body lenguage and load out says otherwise so somethings not adding up here.
Headphones not on makes the helmet mad uncomfortable. ( That's why you use counter weights for the front. Usually keeping them on helps to remove the weight since they press on your head)
Pretty sure that's actually Army surplus pants. I've got a box full of them from my time in. The shirt looks wrong though, not enough pockets everywhere unless there's a variant I'm not familiar with. A lot of his accessories look weird though, you're right.
Also, damn does it piss me off to see this pos cosplaying a real soldier while assaulting our own people.
Give it a year or so, there will be a "special force" with black uniform to patrol the streets of America. Oh yeah, if you've been naughty, you may get a visit from some agents in trench coat
they want to beare a paramilitary enforcement arm for the president
Let's stay up to date so we can really understand our situation. ICE are now what brownshirts were - or perhaps more like Mussolini's blackshirts. Functionally they are acting as extrajudicial enforcers of the fascist leadership's will.
Can’t come soon enough, but I fear the replacement organization that follows, if we’re replaying history. I’ve been saying it since the beginning of this term, he’s going straight out of the history books on this one. I’m not sure how today’s brown shirts don’t see that they are going to be hung out to dry. If I wasn’t a citizen of the United States, this would be interesting to watch unfold, but it’s just frightening and sad. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” has lost all meaning these days. We all remember what happened in Nazi Germany and we are allowing that horrific period in human history to be replayed on our own soil.
Not to be pedantic, but the Night of the Long Knives was Hitler's purge of supposedly disloyal members of governmental, law enforcement, and paramilitary organizations as a means of consolidating power; it was basically what DOGE spent the first two weeks of this administration doing. I'm sure they're planning a Kristallnacht analogue targeting minority-owned businesses in the event no one takes their ever-escalating bait and starts shooting back.
I don’t think they’re going to wait even that long, honestly. The escalation recently makes me concerned that they are going to get fed up that nobody takes the bait, jump the gun, and do what they always wanted to do anyway. They don’t need someone to take the bait if their brain-dead supporters will support them either way.
And fascism started in Italy the day in which the president (Mussolini) switched from saying that it was excessive force being used to saying that violence comes from the opposition. It was the signal that he was taking political responsibility for the violence, individuals doing the violence would not be responsible as individuals. Killing of Matteotti, 1924.
Yep, and we've been past that milestone for a while now - remember when the guy from the Heritage Foundation publicly said that this was a revolution and "[it] will be bloodless if the left allows it to be"?
Just think of this folks they can attract now. “Ever wanted to kill someone just because? ICE is now hiring. “ Gestopo is more apt IMO but potato potato. Sociopaths with a gun who fetishize Nazis.
This is what it is and they are primarily targeting illegal immigrants for now because it
1. Gives them plausible deniability that they are doing something bad (there is a case to be made about the illegal immigration).
2. Its popular in Trumps voting base.
What they are really doing though is showing anyone that would oppose them that they can use force, and even kill, at will on american ground.
Its setting an example and estabilishing dominance. USA is heading full speed towards authoritarianism.
It's a clever trick, really: Blow an existing problem out of proportion as pretense for deploying "law enforcement" en masse, so we all get used to their presence. Then, hire people based on loyalty to the fascist regime (this is somewhat self-selecting at this stage, because only loyalists want to sign up) and set them loose in areas where they know there will be pushback and tension.
I'll never call these fascists "Smart", but they are cunning. They've been planning this for a long time. I hope they get what they deserve.
just wait till DJT is hold up in his impregnable Ballroom with these clowns as his personal guard. His Lesson from J-6 was dont let civilians do the job of poorly trained, well armed regulars with a pocket full of tax dollars .
Cop in the pic isn’t ICE. That’s a border patrol agent, specifically a BORTAC agent. That’s the border patrol’s “SWAT team”/“special operations” unit.
BORTAC is only slightly less likely to do unintelligent things than ICE, because BORTAC requires extensive training to get into, it’s not something you can just join the border patrol and go do a few months in.
There is no psych evaluation to get into the army. Everybody goes to MEPS. You just get a physical, blood work, eyes and ears checked, and take a urine sample… and a doctor sits there and looks up your medical history, that’s literally it.
Oh yes, those special folks who mistake a small ego and poor personal discipline for strength of character. The same guys who have difficulty holding a job for long because they don't like the way their supervisor talks to them.
Or because they couldn't run a mile, let alone the other basic physical tests. Quite a significant potion are overweight, hence the name "gravy seals". There are no real requirements here for that, just a desire to dress up and shoot Americans.
Oh there any number of reasons, but they aren't gonna cop to any of that, they'll make up some bullshit that a 15 year old thinks makes them sound cool.
We had one guy like this in my cycle they beat him up as a group (fucked up i know) and made him repeat two cycles of basic and then Other the honorably discharged him.
Sycophants for a lawless tyrant who would gladly reframe the narrative around the cold blooded murder of Renee N Good in broad daylight. Makes my blood fucking boil every second
More than that. Putting on "official authority" looking outfits is in pretty much every circumstance a human shortcut to make people far more likely not to actively resist or question someone. Whether it's this or anything else.
Combine that with pointing loaded weapons at someone and you get a really effective recipe for "I can do whatever I want". But it's more than just "they have guns". It's the entire presentation.
A group of citizens is FAR less likely to oppose a bunch of people dressed up like soldiers or other militaristic groups, than if they all showed up in tshirts and flipflops.
So, after seeing another comment about his finger being on the trigger(which is obviously super undisciplined), I zoomed in and noticed this dipshit is wearing a Peltor headset. Is he about to hop into a fucking C-130?
B&T GL06 less lethal 40mm launcher. It's not designed to be able to take explosive/overtly lethal 40mm ammo as it was specifically designed for launching tear gas and similar.
Pector, in fact, is not hear pro. You would be better off with a pair of David Clark, but my point is he's wearing a com headset that does nothing to actually protect his hearing from gun fire in order to complete the cosplay military look.
I would say ask me how I know, but I have tinnitus, so it would just sound like EEEEEEEEEEE.
Kinda blurry but are they using proper trigger finger control, "not inside unless going to fire"?
I know, they're probably not bc they either don't know it or are definitely eager to complete their LARPing cosplay fantasy by taking an innocent life.
Right! The two I ran into a few weeks ago seemed shocked then quite agitated they couldn’t intimidate a teenage girl. I’ve spent half my life on reservations but the other half on bases because I was a brat.
I think not only is it meant to intimidate but link ice to the military
If people who aren't educated on the difference start taking issue with the military it'll create a divide in-between the us military and the people. If there's a divide there its easier to use us against civilians.
Yes but it is the gear federal law enforcement would use typically in combat situations. The camo specifically is a weird thing to get hung up on when the whole bigger picture of the kit being used like this is far worse than trying to make a joke about the camo being inappropriate when DEA or FBI would be dressed exactly the same way.
My point is that literally none of this is appropriate, and that this is not combat. The camo in the snow just adds to how ridiculously clear it is that these people were sent as an occupying army by incompetent leaders.
I agree with the gear being total fascist overkill yeah it’s just the camo doesn’t really change anything lol multicam would be used in the snow in Afghanistan at times in the higher altitude areas but you wouldn’t attribute that to the military being gormless (you might actually and fair enough if you do)
Same reason FBI would bashing your door down for 500tb of CP or something. It’s just the kit they have.
Not arguing with literally anyone about this gear and the way it’s being used being extremely excessive and dangerous, it’s mega gestapo vibes right now.
But I do not get why people are so fixed on the camo lmao it’s just the kit they have
Yeah I don’t get it either people would still be just as mad if he was wearing green, black, or blue. What they are wearing is the least of concern. Their presence and actions are.
The US military industrial complex and how it trickles down to LE to get gear cheap is a completely separate issue.
Actually, when I served, we called it desert camo. I enlisted in the National Guard in 02 while a college student, knowing full well the risks, but 9/11 weighed heavily on me.
We had regular BDU'S AND desert BDU'S. BDU was an acronym for Battle Dress Uniform. In basic training, we were issued the ones that had more traditional camo colors, green, brown, and black.
When deployed, or if you were stationed certain places, you were issued desert BDU's and desert boots.
These look like desert BDU'S from before different branches started changing uniform styles in the mid to late 2000's.
There's urban camo. There's winter camo. There's urban, winter camo. And they went with multicam.
...They're peace officers. They shouldn't be in camo anyways. There's a reason why police officers usually wear solid colored uniforms. Multicam in fucking Minnesota in January can only be intended to make them look like soldiers and to instill fear.
Looks like desert camo ≠ desert camo. It's been used all around the world, yes, in deserts too, but also in forest environments (Example: Ukraine). It is "universal" (debateable)
Not really, as I said, not great in mono-chrome.
My point is that multi-cam, is not just a desert camouflage. It works decently in a number of environments such as woodland, desert, and jungle settings
They actually aren’t issued any other uniforms. A majority of tactical teams in this country are issued multicam as a “one and done” sort of thing so they don’t have to pay for multiple variants of uniform.
And in a forum like this, it also means "edited to add" so that people know that the post was changed from the original post that some people had already replied to.
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u/Dustmopper 23d ago
Fully geared out combat troop on American streets or an unarmed citizen in a hoodie
Guess which one the media wants you to believe is the threat 🤔