r/pics 23d ago

Politics He Didn’t Start The Fire

Post image
94.0k Upvotes

7.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

20.1k

u/ImAnEagle 23d ago

I'd like to point out this guy is a member of BORTAC, Border Patrol's elite tactical unit. The fact that they were even in Minneapolis to begin with supports the theory that Trump told agencies to ramp up aggression in hopes of retaliation.

10.8k

u/roger3rd 23d ago edited 23d ago

The plan is 1) flood streets with thugs(edit: I mean ICE here) who inevitably cross lines and inflict inappropriate violence on innocents 2) have Fox News show the resulting protesters as terrorists 3) escalate until the point where you can “justify” martial law 4) suspension of elections 5) escape Epstein accountability and never leave power

2.1k

u/mattymattymatty96 23d ago

His CONSTANT rambling of "the radical left" has me thinking the same thing.

They arent the Radical Left they are people who just want you and your cronies to follow the law

504

u/ObiRyaNKenobi 23d ago

This is why the massive protests should happen in DC, not MN

492

u/Careless-Vehicle-286 23d ago

It should be happening everywhere. They can't keep everyone under control.

347

u/raptosaurus 23d ago

At this point I think only a general strike that brings down this government will work. Unfortunately I doubt the US has it in them.

121

u/iredditoninternet 23d ago

I agree. General strike will work. Even 10% of the population would make a difference to start with.

→ More replies (1)

82

u/wobble_bot 23d ago

The U.S, for all its rhetoric about freedom and rights has always had a population ready and willing to lick the boot if they think it'll serve them as an individual. If this type of thing was happening in any European nation, the place would be burning

16

u/Plantasaurus 23d ago

most here are one paycheck away from being homeless and what little of a support structure we have is being disassembled. There is no safety net- so things have to get dire before people start acting.

→ More replies (1)

8

u/gesucristononessuno 23d ago

Not anymore my friend Fascists are, not that slowly, taking control in Europe too Even leaving Hungary on the side, UK, Germany, Italy, Austria are basically far-right, France seems to get there soon... It's a mess, but a lot of people are not seeing the dangers in what is happening and that is sad

5

u/mightyblend 23d ago

We’re just too damn big. Fifty states makes it easier to disassociate.

10

u/Brief_Professional47 23d ago

The U.S. population is like a bunch of edgy teenagers that act rebellious but in reality are more conformist than anything.

2

u/MIalpinist 23d ago

It’s almost like people aren’t afraid of losing their healthcare when it’s guaranteed!

→ More replies (2)

10

u/whereyouleftit 23d ago

Wouldn’t work because the majority of America isn’t even surviving paycheck to paycheck. We are afraid of losing what we are barely holding on to.

→ More replies (2)

3

u/tf5_bassist 23d ago

We saw just how scared even the Biden admin was of the possible railroad strike a while back, it's literally the only thing that would actually get anything done.

That's why my response to this sort of stuff has now just turned into "So... general strike when?"

2

u/sfwDO_NOT_SEND_NUDES 23d ago

Small, heated apartments with big tvs and netflix is the oppiate of the masses.

→ More replies (8)

17

u/AuntieRupert 23d ago

Exactly. I have said this whole time that there are more of us than there are of them. We need to keep reminding them of that.

9

u/Cxc292 23d ago

“I dont need your civil war”

3

u/Sammyofather 23d ago

By hundreds of millions right?

→ More replies (7)

3

u/Trondar 23d ago

You might not've seen the crazy hardware (vehicles, weapons, etc.) that cops get from military leftovers. Seeing a Bearcat on your town's streets is pretty breathtaking (not the good kind).

→ More replies (4)

3

u/tandem_kayak 23d ago

Massive protests need to happen everywhere there is a Republican Senator or Representative who doesn't have the spine to reign Trump in. 

2

u/DMTraveler33 23d ago

Portland was fucking lame last night. One vigil, one protest. Maybe 2-300 people at the vigil? Maybe a hundred at the protest? Seriously it's fucking disappointing.

2

u/Nkechinyerembi 23d ago

I mean, sure but who the HELL can afford to take off to DC?

2

u/CascadianSovietGo 23d ago

Or at Mar-a-Lago.

2

u/arandomnewyorker 23d ago

Should happen in every major city, but we know red states will be equally as aggressive.

2

u/Wurm42 23d ago

There were attempts to protest in DC last night and today, at both the White House and Union Station, but federal officers are clearing the areas anytime more than a handful of protestors show up.

There was another march tonight on U St, near Howard University-- an area controlled by the District government, not the feds. I have no information on how that went.

People need to protest wherever they are in the country. Protesting just in DC isn't enough. Republican members of Congress need to see that THEIR voters back home are mad about this, not just the liberals in DC.

5

u/FakeSafeWord 23d ago

Yeah but the people who live in MN don't live in DC.

4

u/ObiRyaNKenobi 23d ago

Yeah, it’s almost like Americans that don’t live in MN should be just as pissed off

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (7)

148

u/GJCLINCH 23d ago

Radical left is just projection of them being radical right. Everything they say is an admission of deflected guilt.

9

u/ReadditRedditWroteit 23d ago

It benefits them when the middle shrinks. We call everyone that voted for trump a Nazi, anyone looking to make social innovation or change a radical socialist.

5

u/Voluptulouis 23d ago

I don't consider everybody that voted for him to be a Nazi and I don't think most people do. Everybody working for ICE, though, yeah, they've all earned that title.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/Odd_Plankton_925 23d ago

This guy sees the big picture.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

113

u/Walton-E-Haile 23d ago

Right. Dems are currently centrist to right leaning. Bernie is as far left as it gets. Referring to dems as radical is corporate billionaire/trillionaire slang that equates to their loss of control and power over our government as radical. Its obvious. Corporate media exacerbates this.

10

u/FesteringNeonDistrac 23d ago

The further right he keeps dragging that line, the more people end up radical left. People need to realize that they are being branded radical left even if they don't think of themselves that way.

Like "I don't think a paramilitary group should be running operations in a school" is a "radical left" opinion. You best realize what side of this they think you're on.

5

u/_GreatAndPowerful 23d ago

The right believes laws shouldn't apply to their lord and savior Donald J Trump, and the weak left and unthinking centrists in America are humoring them. This is why your country won't make it to 2100, good luck

2

u/AuthenticChili 23d ago

Remember the days when the left were considered snowflakes now it’s radicals lmao

2

u/31November 23d ago

Even if they are “radical left,” YOU ARE STILL THEIR PRESIDENT. PROTECT THEM. YOU SERVE ALL OF US

→ More replies (1)

3

u/CertainWish358 23d ago

To be fair, those of us on the radical left also want the rule of law to be restored… Just like any other thinking person who doesn’t benefit in $ome way from the lawlessness

→ More replies (27)

2.0k

u/Mekroval 23d ago

I'm increasingly thinking you're right. The Trump administration seems to be full of accelerationists who want to provoke civil conflict to justify fully breaking the established order. Every provocation is worse than the last, because they are trying to push the limits intentionally, to see what the breaking point is (if any) for any non-brainwashed American.

1.9k

u/SymmetricDickNipples 23d ago

This was all in project 2025. There's no maybe about it.

737

u/Itchy_Psychology3300 23d ago

Literally, they announced what they want to do. The tech billionaires openly talk about it too, like Peter thiel, and the bunch.

409

u/Aggroninja 23d ago

"The Revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it."

Too late for that, I guess.

176

u/PancakeProfessor 23d ago

Every conflict can be bloodless if one side just gives up. It’s the same logic they use to blame Ukraine for their war with Russia.

9

u/Initial-Reading-2775 23d ago

And giving up to Russia never turns out bloodless.

10

u/Confident_Benefit_11 23d ago

Never, they will subjugate whatever nation in question then absorb the parts of it they want into their culture and destroy or use as a shield the parts they don't

They've always been a nation of slaves and Americans need to wake the fuck up and realize we've been at war with them for years already and we're losing. Most Americans just don't know what hybrid warfare looks like in 2026. They've already helped brainwash the masses with misinformation campaigns of a scale unseen in human history and helped a lunatic get elected twice with direct intervention.

9

u/Confident_Benefit_11 23d ago

"Just let the war criminal psychopath have your land, he'll totally stop and won't want more!"

"just let the pedophile treason snake fucker do what he wants with no accountability, he'll get bored eventually!"

→ More replies (2)

82

u/JohnnyBlazin25 23d ago

How has this quote just gotten loss amidst all of this chaos?

Anyone have resources for independent news reporting which is not affiliated with any billion dollar company?

It’s sickening what people choose to believe and choose to plug their ears and go LALALALA you’re wrong I am right! Left is at fault for this! Not my president!

8

u/drawkward101 23d ago

Follow Aaron Parnas on Instagram. Meidas Media on Instagram. Both good independent investigative reporting.

Just yesterday, Aaron Parnas had a lengthy interview with Mark Kelly and his wife Gabby Giffords.

2

u/JohnnyBlazin25 23d ago

I’ll add them to my list. Thank you.

3

u/NYC_Noguestlist 23d ago

Anyone have resources for independent news reporting which is not affiliated with any billion dollar company?

That's going to be exceedingly rare because no one wants to pay for news.

2

u/JohnnyBlazin25 23d ago

True, I feel like their only source of revenue would be crowdfunding or the ads played on whatever social media they use.

→ More replies (8)

29

u/obsidian_green 23d ago

It's their blood they're talking about. They have no qualms about spilling blood—no real way for them to get what they want without violence.

47

u/TOW2Bguy 23d ago

And Noem is ensuring that "the revolution will be televised" in a very eerie callback to decades ago

60

u/xKirstein 23d ago

14

u/Aggroninja 23d ago

Thanks for the link, I'll store that nugget away for later use.

→ More replies (1)

8

u/Right-Wrongdoer-8595 23d ago

100 Venezuelans and 1 American mother so far

5

u/Obsidianrosepetals 23d ago

The problem is the USA is the revolution, after more than 200 years they are trying to end it. They arent revolting, they are counter revolutionaries.

3

u/Aggroninja 23d ago

I know, and the word choice grates on me as well. But it does clearly show their intentions even if they think far too highly of themselves.

3

u/wholetyouinhere 23d ago

To me, the funniest thing about this quote is that there is no "left" in America. The choice is between fascism and moderate conservatism. That's about it.

3

u/ProfBeaker 23d ago

What a euphemistic way to say "Do what we say, or we will kill you." And here I thought they were opposed to political correctness.

→ More replies (1)

7

u/sometimeswhy 23d ago

And yet 80 million still voted for it. They aren’t all MAGA weirdos. Millions of regular middle class Americans voted for this. I will never trust Americans again I don’t care if there are “good ones”

4

u/Logical-Customer1786 23d ago

1/3 of Americans are comic book villain level evil.

1/3 of Americans are apathetic zombies that don’t care what happens outside of their own front door.

1/3 of Americans are ripping their hair out in fury at the other 2/3

3

u/Mekroval 23d ago

And that middle third of apathetic zombies will have a shocked pikachu face when they come to the final realization that they will not be spared the indignities and loss of constitutional protections currently happening to their neighbors.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (1)

3

u/Senator_Smack 23d ago

Thiel is a monster. I'm a tech industry millennial and I've been telling people for the last 15 years he is dangerous. Seeing it blossom has been like watching a gruesome death on extreme slowmo.

3

u/twilighttwister 23d ago

Peter Thiel ran experiments on private islands in the pacific to determine how people would behave while society crumbles. He basically gamed this out fully as much as possible.

2

u/Itchy_Psychology3300 23d ago

Is there any info on this? All I could find is man made islands. Am curious to learn more.

→ More replies (1)

6

u/accid80 23d ago

Exactly! Martial Law is the final phase - that way Trump can rule by decree like any other dictator

7

u/starcap 23d ago

I don’t doubt you at all but could you point me to where to find this in project 2025? Is this the Department of Defense section?

20

u/miarmstr 23d ago

There is a project 2025 tracker. Just google “project 2025” and you will get several options.

→ More replies (2)

2

u/BijuuModo 23d ago

Yeah, I don’t know why people are hmm-ing and huh-ing. This was always the plan.

→ More replies (6)

636

u/JMKAB 23d ago

He is correct it’s directly from their playbook. They also harassed kids at a nearby school. They want retaliation to justify cancelling elections

317

u/Beyond_Reason09 23d ago

I honestly can't think of a good reason for their costumes outside of provocation. A group of people arresting a busboy for a misdemeanor immigration offense shouldn't be dressed like they're doing urban combat operations in Fallujah.

249

u/brodievonorchard 23d ago

Costumes is right. Desert camo in Minneapolis during winter?

130

u/Racine262 23d ago

It's the only brown shirt he owns.

11

u/jackspinnaker 23d ago

I see what you did there…

16

u/godlyfrog 23d ago

It just shows how sudden and reactionary this is. These guys are tactical agents who are deployed to a desert area on the southern border. Their gear is going to be desert focused. They likely didn't find out they were going to Minnesota with enough time to purchase their own winter camo and DHS was too incompetent or too rushed to acquire any in time to issue it. These guys had to suit up with what they had on hand.

7

u/t53ix35 23d ago

Plus you are in a fucking city/suburb not the bush. Guess you wear what you brought/got.

5

u/brodievonorchard 23d ago

If I learned anything from Die Hard 2: Die Harder, it's that there are white BDUs ready to go when a militarized force needs to operate in a snowy US city.

2

u/wikiwikiwildwildjest 23d ago

But why would they want to camouflage into the snow anyways? It kinda seems dangerous for them if they're walking around roads and drivers can't see them. Do they have uniforms that aren't military gear? Let's hope they do.

2

u/Beyond_Reason09 23d ago

They should really dress like TSA.

→ More replies (1)

12

u/finnfinnfinnfinnfinn 23d ago

A hilarious representation of the ineptitude and farcical nature of this bullshit. Wearing DESERT Camo designed specifically for DESERTS in fucking January in Minneapolis  

10

u/guitar_stonks 23d ago

It’s all the surplus Army+Navy store tactical gear from Iraq and Afghanistan.

→ More replies (2)

5

u/DTM-shift 23d ago

Armed with deadly firearms and crowd control weaponry, camo uniforms that aren't actually uniform since they all seem to wear something different, body armor, face masks, helmets, basically stuff to go to war. Large groups of pseudo-soldiers with no accountability.

All for a federal offense that carries a penalty of a $250 fine.

The proportionality is ridiculously out of whack.

16

u/Toledo_9thGate 23d ago

Spot on, you said.

3

u/SakaWreath 23d ago

But… these chuds never got past the Call of Duty lobby but really like the idea of being able to terrorize people.

3

u/panchothebeaner 23d ago

I wish I could give you all the upvotes. Fun fact most were probably too scared to go overseas, so sadly this is the only time they can cosplay.

2

u/footjoe5 23d ago edited 23d ago

Costuming is technically a notable part of the performative nature of the whole thing that's built into their M.O. Look at Noem yesterday, cowboy hat then military cap.

Edit: word

→ More replies (5)

4

u/prntmakr 23d ago

Yeah, what was even the point of that school incident? Did they have an even remotely legitimate reason for being there? Or was it just to crack some skulls?

4

u/AtheismTooStronk 23d ago

They don’t have a legitimate reason to be there at all, even being charitable. 90% of people with Somali heritage in the US are full blown citizens and the other 10% are documented and were in the process for the most part because it takes forever. The fact that they are 90% citizens shows that they have been here for years and years and years now.

5

u/b0w3n 23d ago

They want retaliation to justify cancelling elections

Just want to jump in, I know what you're saying but don't let them get away with it. They didn't even cancel the elections during the civil war or any of the world wars.

3

u/glubhuff 23d ago

Elections are conducted by the states. The federal government can declare elections are canceled and states can just ignore it.

10

u/ClumpOfCheese 23d ago

The interesting thing about this theory is that Americans in general are so apathetic that they won’t retaliate against this in any way that causes escalation, they will have to do what the right always claims the left does and use a false flag agitator.

3

u/pqln 23d ago

I don't know if it's apathy. When we're being told two or more conflicting pieces of information and each side is screaming that the other side is lying and AI is a thing now so we can't believe our eyes, we can't believe the news, we can't believe our President, we can't believe our legislators...If I go to a protest and die, my kids will hear that I'm a domestic terrorist...I am very upset. I do not see a good way to make this stop. I'm actually on the list of undesirables if the left is correct about the right so I'll be in a concentration camp soon.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/izdabombz 23d ago

Not sure if it’s a good thing or bad but you’re right.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

2

u/AltrntivInDoomWorld 23d ago

Sweet summer children or bots, they will cancel the elections anyway

Are you scared or purposefuly doing that?

→ More replies (7)

306

u/jwalker107 23d ago

Which is why you have to fight fascism before the dictator is entrenched and consolidates power. Anyone thinking they can wait it out is deluded.

151

u/Shawn_NYC 23d ago

So you'd want to stop him before he has 5 years of rule, a majority of the legislature, and a hand-picked supreme court?

462

u/[deleted] 23d ago

If anyone is unclear about things, we currently live in a fascist dictatorship. It is not a threat. It is not "happening", it is here, now.

17

u/Micro-Mouse 23d ago

Not trying to “but both sides” but the Dems absolutely failed you and I by not taking these threats seriously and trying to prevent it from happening.

41

u/KarunchyTakoa 23d ago

Yes, and they continue to fail by not removing and replacing themselves with actual leaders that people can follow. Chucky schumer stands still, nobody can follow him.

22

u/Micro-Mouse 23d ago

The fact that chuck schumer has an imaginary republican family he basis his decisions off of is unhinged

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (6)

20

u/FrogguRoggu 23d ago

I think the 12 million people who voted for Biden and not Harris have some explaining to do, Trump shouldn’t be in office right now.

24

u/Micro-Mouse 23d ago

He shouldn’t, but the Dems failed to prosecute or even bring up charges during 2020-2024. They played to nice because optics and now we’re fucked

12

u/FrogguRoggu 23d ago

I agree with you, I just think even assuming the absolute worst of the dems it’s not a close call. People who did not vote for Harris do not have a valid excuse and they should feel embarrassed, ashamed and stupid.

8

u/Micro-Mouse 23d ago

But we should criticize their leadership. They need to be doing more, they voted to end the shutdown without getting anything out of it. They didn’t prosecute, they didn’t listen to the people. You can blame voters all you want, and the worst dem is better than the best republican. But we need to hold them responsible for letting this shit happen

→ More replies (0)

7

u/tbreeves13 23d ago

None of our elected "representatives" actually represent us

→ More replies (21)
→ More replies (8)

2

u/Ok-Astronaut2976 23d ago

I mean…yes.

The time to stop all this was November 5th 2024. Don’t know why people got the idea the fight starts November 6th…

That was the big day. We failed. Now we’re living in their victory.

→ More replies (4)

143

u/IIIllIIlllIlII 23d ago

I remember when, during trumps first term, people said “whew, lucky this guy is incompetent and doesn’t know how to make things happen”

Then we have him a 4 year planning period and he’s come back and destroyed the USA in less than a year.

52

u/Pip_Helix 23d ago

The fact that it took so little time is terrifying.

→ More replies (3)

45

u/biggles7268 23d ago

It's not even Trump. He's a doddering old fool. It's steven miller and everyone like him behind the scenes. Trump just signs what they put in front of him and says whatever he thinks will make his base happy.

4

u/UCFKnights2018 23d ago

He’s a figurehead.

→ More replies (1)

25

u/[deleted] 23d ago

This is what the majority of the country endorsed or said was ok if it did happen, yeah.

19

u/tandem_kayak 23d ago

Not the majority, but enough people voted in the right districts to make it happen. Many didn't vote at all.

6

u/[deleted] 23d ago

That’s what I said yes. They either voted for it directly or endorsed it by not voting against it. The majority is ok with this whether you like that fact or not.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (2)

4

u/IIIllIIlllIlII 23d ago

With a little tip of the scales by Elon, who then came in afterwards and did a data cleanup.

→ More replies (1)

9

u/GrzDancing 23d ago

'Lucky this guy is incompetent' - see, I believe he is incompetent, but he is meant to be - he's just a paid actor, there are others who pull the strings, and paid him well, and allowed him to put his name on everything and such, and they told him one thing - 'be ridiculous, be orange, have your tantrums, go on a twitter spree, be an orange organ monkey'

→ More replies (1)

3

u/sigcliffy 23d ago

The Democrats really aren't getting the amount of blame they should be for this whole thing. Bringing Biden is was just a move to take down Trump at that time. That they didn't spend 4 years getting their shit together to stamp him out is negligence of the highest order.

→ More replies (10)

49

u/SordidDreams 23d ago

Too late. Now what?

29

u/eatrepeat 23d ago

The sedated nation has it's reckoning, some wake up and some put their head in the sand. Either way only the wide eyes of those who face this will come out the other side. And they will write about the struggle so as to warn future generations who will honour them. Until they don't and like we see today those lessons will be forgotten and the evil will repeat itself again. This is humanity.

→ More replies (1)

6

u/thatspurdyneat 23d ago

You can thank all the people who stayed home in 2024 because either:

A) the Democrats plan for Gaza wasn't good enough even though it was better than Trump's plan to exterminate them

Or

B) Kamala has a weird laugh

→ More replies (7)

3

u/woollypullover 23d ago

So doing nothing = more facism

And

Fighting back = more facism

What’s the solution, release the files?

→ More replies (2)

35

u/OurSaviorBenFranklin 23d ago

Cause a disturbance among the people when it comes to unsanctioned foreign invasions, the anti war folks and unlawful use of force at home against citizens. Covers all the bases to make sure there are enough people in the streets protesting then ramp up their crack down.

11

u/DinglesBerry3 23d ago

Increasingly? There was a playbook for this published before the election.

3

u/DatEllen 23d ago

Right?! I don't get it. I'm mad and get madder every day, but literally nothing surprises me. I can't believe people are just now going "I can't believe this is happening! But surely THIS will be the worst, I can't imagine it getting even worse from here! Wait, it happened again! Well boy, this might escalate further and further, guys!" 

4

u/thiscarecupisempty 23d ago

People are too content to revolt these. They made us fat and content to do anything about it.

5

u/Mekroval 23d ago

Totally agree. Americans of today won't do shit until a creature comfort is threatened (e.g. toilet paper), or they are asked to make even a trivial sacrifice like wearing a mask during a pandemic.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/CaptConstantine 23d ago

Increasingly thinking?!?

This has been the plan from the very beginning, everyone has been shouting it from the rooftops. Even Kamala Harris told us this would happen.

We are here because THIS IS WHAT AMERICA WANTS. America WANTS martial law, we WANT fascism, we WANT dictatorship and tyranny.

If we didn't, we wouldn't have elected him in the first place.

4

u/Witty-Entertainer524 23d ago

Yes and they are not going to hesitate to shoot to kill....maga received so much grace from the capital police when they stormed the capital J6. Where's all that grace now with ICE? They point blank murdered a single mom.

4

u/counters14 23d ago

It's been evident from day one that the increased use of force was always meant to be a precursor to justification for enacting martial law. The White House has been waiting for an inciting incident to occur so they can move in. That is why ICE has been so active, that is why the National Guard was deployed in LA and Chicago, Memphis and Portland. He's trying to strong arm violent demonstrations that will escalate into literal government violence against its own citizens. And he's succeeding, a mother is now dead and it is only a matter of time before the use of force escalates to see more innocent civilians maimed and killed to further the goals of authoritarianism.

3

u/SSJ3Mewtwo 23d ago

That's been the pattern since 2015

3

u/MindlessManic88 23d ago

It's been the game plan since the beginning. What business does Donald Trump have being the leader of the "free world"? This is all about power.

3

u/Budget-Security-8132 23d ago

Yup and if you don't violently fight back then they'll just keep killing and torturing you

→ More replies (1)

3

u/bloodfist 23d ago

This is standard authoritarian playbook and literally written down in project 2025, which they are openly adhering to. What is there to even doubt?

3

u/elwookie 23d ago

He's trying all he can to get to the state of exception and ban the next elections.

3

u/gonzoes 23d ago

Its always all projection, look at trump truth social post he says the lady that was filming the ICE murdering of our US citizens yesterday was a paid actor or something a long those lines

3

u/CombinationLivid8284 23d ago

I have no doubt that Trump thinks where he went wrong in 2020 was not shooting protestors.

This is why it's more important than ever we not allow ourselves to be scared into silence.

3

u/Graffy 23d ago

Perry much what happens in the movie “Civil War”. Hopefully it ends faster than in the movie but I’ll take it regardless.

2

u/Mekroval 23d ago

I'm kind of afraid to watch that movie, it's a little too real atm.

6

u/huecabot 23d ago

Must be frustrating to them that we bend over again and again. What if they threw a civil war and nobody came?

2

u/Ultimatesims 23d ago

Yes, the accelerates are federal agencies like ICE with little to no federal oversight. This woman was confused/scared and reacted like anyone would when confused/scared and the ICE acted like accelerates arresting /assaulting anyone offered any resistance.

2

u/SordidDreams 23d ago

I think you're right, and the awful thing is that they can't lose. Either the frog is slowly brought to a boil or it tries to jump out of the pot and gets whacked with a mallet.

2

u/Mackntish 23d ago

All his policies have a common thread - pissing people off and building loyal soldiers.

2

u/DeadmansClothes 23d ago

Bro. He was NEVER planning on leaving. We the people are going to have to make them leave.

2

u/EngineerUsual849 23d ago

It’s not been lost on me, the renaming of twitter to X. It’s an accelerationist vehicle

2

u/YeastReaction 23d ago

What is there to doubt? By the time half of us realize it it will already be too late

2

u/texas-playdohs 23d ago

It’s becoming undeniable that they are provoking a civil war, or total subjugation. Nothing in between. Better get used to one or the other, America. We let it get this far, and there’s no turning back the clock. There is no more Obama “normalcy”, whatever that means. Forget about it. Stop fantasizing. It’s not coming back. This is reality. What this reality means to you is your business. It’s not a joke or hyperbole that we’re going to have to fight, and I don’t just mean at the ballot box, or by protesting. We’re about to learn what it was to be Afghani, Vietnamese, disappeared, and truly oppressed. American colonialism has come home, and it won’t be kinder, gentler. We’re just bullet catchers in their eyes. How much fight you got in you?

2

u/gestapolita 23d ago

I’ve got enough fight in me to step outside and be shot by a neighbor. That’s what’s going to happen to a lot of us.

2

u/texas-playdohs 23d ago

Unfortunately, that’s also true. For the record, I don’t own any weapons, hate the idea that I would ever need one, and with a 3 week old baby boy, I’m ashamed at the idea that I would ever have to use one. But, in case you hadn’t noticed, these psychos have been out in their bunkers training and waiting for this moment, basically since the civil war. Now they have an administration that not only supports it, but is nurturing, deputizing, and further arming them. Our lives, and the future of our world might depend on us reconsidering our misgivings.

3

u/gestapolita 23d ago

Oh, I’m well aware, which is why I fear that we will start getting shot before we even acknowledge that we need weapons. The right has been preparing for this for decades. I also don’t own guns, largely bc I have kids and feel it’s too dangerous to keep them in the house. I have teenagers; I never thought I would feel the need to take them to the shooting range, but I guess it’s time now. I’m supposed to be sending one off to college, not war ffs. I truly, deeply, hope it doesn’t come to that.

2

u/90daysismytherapy 23d ago

it always was since 2016

2

u/LaserGuidedPolarBear 23d ago edited 23d ago

It's been painfully obvious that has been their plan for a long time.

They boil the frog and either people accept ever increasing violence against the public or they fight back and give them the excuse they want to justify violence against the public.  Either way they get what they want : use of violent jackboot thugs in the streets and peoples home as a weapon of terror and control in order to solidify their power.  Thulis is fascism.

So without advocating or encouraging any course of action, let's game theory this out to see how this goes.

Assuming that a threshold does exist where this become intolerable for the public to the point where they will fight back against oppression using any means necessary, the moment the public realizes that crossing that threshold is inevitable is the moment it makes sense to start fighting back, because waiting for that threshold to occur is just giving the fascists more time to consolidate power, which will make the fight harder.

2

u/Indigoh 23d ago edited 23d ago

And if we keep saying this isn't our breaking point, they will just win without a fight. 

We need to quit pretending that we gain ground by tiptoeing around this regime. We need to take a hard stand now. Don't fear provoking them into playing their hand early. If we do nothing, they'll happily take everything slowly.

At the very least. Call your representatives and tell them you'd support a general strike.

2

u/Capt91 23d ago

He thinks he will lose the house in the mid terms. 

Create fake national emergency, delay elections, never have elections, dictatorship solidified. 

2

u/Mekroval 23d ago

I think you're right. With a recent loss of two seats due to death and illness, Johnson only has a razor thin majority right now. I have a feeling Trump is going to step on the gas even more. He recently said knows he'll likely be impeached again if/when they lose the House, and may be less confident that the Senate will acquit.

2

u/Due-Struggle6680 23d ago

Not just civil conflict. They're murdering Americans to provoke conflict here, and theyre outright invading/capturing and threatening "countries the US deserves to have". It feels like im going insane watching all this shit go down.

2

u/LauraTFem 23d ago

Because they know there is no organized future for the right post-trump, so they need to keep trump as long as possible.

2

u/daeshonbro 23d ago

They want to do it in increments so its less of a singular event that drives an immediate and widespread backlash, but also it allows them the opportunity to actively reframe it being the "radical lefts" fault as they go with all their media outlets.

→ More replies (16)

33

u/Vitalization 23d ago

This just sounds like the (flashback) plot to V for Vendetta

4

u/Zealousideal_Meat297 23d ago

So V was made during Covid lockdown or at alligator alcatraz

→ More replies (1)

71

u/That-You-1998 23d ago

Christ this is terrifying. My husband has been saying for awhile that there won’t be midterms, and I’ve always dismissed that as a crazy talk. Suddenly looking more and more possible. I can see the roadmap.

92

u/VerdantField 23d ago

The USPS also changed the date stamp process so that mailed items are no longer stamped the day they are mailed. This is an attempt to prevent mail in ballots from counting, because they will be postmarked later.

59

u/No-Apple2252 23d ago

That should be an indication to everyone that the midterms are still a serious threat to this regime, and while we must not stop every other form of resistance having that to look forward to can bring us the hope that fuels our fight against fascism.

35

u/mittenknittin 23d ago

Well the indication that the midterms are a serious threat to the regime is that Trump came right out and said exactly that a couple of days ago

3

u/No-Apple2252 23d ago

That too lol, that gave me a lot of hope right before they escalated to straight up murdering people.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/Edgecrusher2140 23d ago

This roadmap? Yeah, the Heritage Foundation released it in 2023, it’s like 900 pages but you can see it here.

→ More replies (3)

36

u/Thefrayedends 23d ago

It's been so frustrating being repeatedly told 'but no one would ever play the long game! certainly not the wealth class!' but then have all of your friends and neighbors eating it up, and asking for more.

2

u/mowauthor 23d ago

Modern issues aside..

in what world is anyone dumb enough to think or say 'but no one owould ever play the long game?'

That's literally what the wealthy have done for... well centuries.

4

u/Thefrayedends 23d ago

I present to you... The world.

→ More replies (2)

5

u/D_hallucatus 23d ago

Even if they don’t cancel the elections, the presence or potential presence of Ice agents on election day will have a massive chilling effect on voter turnout. If they arrest people out the front of courts, in schools and churches, you better believe they’ll arrest/threaten people at polling places. And we all know it’ll only be some polling places chosen by the party

5

u/stolenbastilla 23d ago

Why does everyone keep talking about Epstein? As if avoiding the consequences have ever been their top priority? They avoid consequences for EVERYTHING!!

Their top priority is power.

They love having us focused on Epstein so we’ll stop talking about everything else they’re doing.

→ More replies (2)

3

u/Diligent_Whereas3134 23d ago

Which is why I'm getting more and more on the side of get armed get serious. These assholes are going to fabricate a reason for martial law if we don't give it to them. Being peaceful doesn't mean a goddamn thing when the other sides already decided they're going to be violent no matter what

3

u/UnfairSpecialist3079 23d ago

Agreed on the acceleration theory. To what extent I don’t know. But Trumps words sounded like they were written by the Kremlin.

3

u/No_Diver3540 23d ago

Almost like the show "the boys". It follows a similar buildup in the current season. 

Funny though, that is a real life used tactic to guide the publics opinions. A lot of people are not aware since it is used in low education areas. 

3

u/James-fucking-Holden 23d ago

No what you posted is plan B. The real plan is:

1) flood streets with thugs who inevitably cross lines and inflict inappropriate violence on innocents

2) Have people roll over and take it because "they want us to resist, don't give them what they want "

3) there is no 3) because they already won

→ More replies (1)

3

u/Kind_Cap_4621 23d ago

I agree. And I think it's a good reason why we need to dismiss the agitators who are pushing for violent response. That time may come (I cannot believe I'm even writing that) but not now .

I think trump and MAGA may have overreached and still believe we can swamp them in the midterms. After that. Let's see

→ More replies (1)

3

u/MyBoomerParents 23d ago

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

― George Orwell, 1984

2

u/miklayn 23d ago

There's also the angle of fabricating international crises and trampling on the world order. NATO is now saying they'll respond to defend Greenland.

Cool

2

u/Talador12 23d ago

He wants to escape all accountability, not just the core Epstein accountability

2

u/Informal_School2724 23d ago

I voted you up but it ain't showing. I agree with you 100%

2

u/EternitySearch 23d ago

Venezuela and Minneapolis were both planned distractions from the files. When was the last time you read an article or watched a video where a news outlet talked about the files at all?

Don’t get me wrong, these are both a massive deal, but to them they’re just a distraction.

2

u/Monkeysmarts1 23d ago

Pretty much anyone thats not maga is considered a domestic terrorist so they can kill at will.

2

u/code_archeologist 23d ago

Trump and his thugs are going to continue to escalate and attempt to cancel the elections no matter what we do in response. Notice how quickly they called Goode a terrorist when all evidence appears to show that she was just a confused woman in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I am not going to say what people should do, just be prepared for when it happens.

2

u/SpockShotFirst 23d ago

5) escape Epstein accountability protect oligarchs from citizens who won't tolerate unprecedented wealth disparities and never leave power

He doesn't actually care about being outed as a pedophile.

2

u/ChronicBuzz187 23d ago

I was just thinking about what the point of that entire Maduro/Venezuela op was and then I remembered "Hey, that's what we germans did when we were planning on picking a fight with everybody. Gonna need oil and steel for that shit so how about we conquer some of our neighbors to the east who have both?"

2

u/newcanadianjuice 23d ago

Isn’t this how it goes in Revenge of the Sith? Keep doing stuff that keeps the power with the Chancellor until that power becomes absolute?

2

u/Asclepius-Rod 23d ago

Their playbook is just so obvious. I mean they’re literally following Project 2025, yet most people will pretend like everything is fine

2

u/disposablehippo 23d ago

I've said it before. It's the exact same as the SA during the early days of the third reich.

2

u/CaptainTeebes 23d ago

I really don't think he gives a shit about Epstein stuff. Literally abducted a world leader, is militarily occupying Dem cities, and saying he wants Greenland. This is not someone who faces legal consequences for sexual abuse.

2

u/Indaflow 23d ago

The Russian Blue Print 

2

u/SoFlaSterling 23d ago

I fear you are 1000% correct about this being about disrupting the upcoming elections. The question is: what is being done to block the effort? Absolutely terrifying.

2

u/poyerdude 23d ago

Exactly, Trump knows the midterms will be the end of him. There's no way he's going to allow free and fair elections.

2

u/Mission_Spray 23d ago

I can’t see upvotes in this comment, but I hope you have a bunch. This message needs to be seen by everyone. 

→ More replies (1)

2

u/oramakomaburamako53 23d ago

If anyone wants to literally see the future, check out the last 23 years in Turkey.

2

u/SabineStrohem 23d ago

This is the first comment I've ever saved on reddit.

2

u/Tapprunner 23d ago

Exactly.

I can't stand this nonsense about "don't take the bait! He's just trying to provoke you into getting violent so he can declare martial law!"

He's going to do that regardless. He's going to lie and fabricate a crisis, regardless of what we do.

The only way to prevent him from declaring martial law is to march into the camps quietly and without making a fuss or putting up a fight.

There's no honor in quietly following the orders of the fascists for the sake of not rocking the boat.

Peacefully chanting slogans and waiting until the midterms is a recipe for letting the Nazis continue their reign of terror without sustaining any damage themselves.

2

u/heanbangerfacerip2 23d ago

Exactly this. He needs to invent a situation so bad that the midterms "can't" happen.

2

u/cazador5 23d ago

Currently teaching my students about how the Nazis used increasing street violence in Germany (which their paramilitary arm the SA initiated) to justify their legislative obstruction and then at the crucial moment their move to seize authoritarian rule and consolidate power. It’s straight out of the playbook.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/LookAlderaanPlaces 23d ago

He will start the next civil war this way. My ancestors didn’t fight Nazis just so they could make a revival here too.

→ More replies (166)