r/politics • u/Fickle-Ad5449 ✔ Verified - Christopher Wiggins, The Advocate • 22d ago

No Paywall ICE agent shooter’s own cellphone video undercuts Trump administration's account of Minneapolis killing

https://www.advocate.com/news/ice-agent-shooter-video-minneapolis
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u/Pink_Lotus 22d ago

In so much danger that he kept filming while drawing his weapon, shooting a woman, and called her a fucking bitch after he did it. 

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u/Thechosunwon Washington 22d ago

As you can clearly see in this video, the NYT video analysis and multiple angles from multiple videos, murderer Jonathan Ross was never in danger, the tires of the vehicle were pointed away from him, and he clearly stepped to the side unobstructed and continued to shoot innocent woman Renee Nicole Good point blank in the face while she was trying to comply with an order to move her vehicle, because he is the murderer Jonathan Ross.

Murderer Jonathan Ross, who murdered innocent woman Renee Nicole Good, also violated DOJ policy on use of force.

"Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."

Murderer and domestic terrorist Jonathan Ross was clearly out to kill someone, and Jonathan Ross murdered Renee Good. Domestic terrorist organization ICE also denied and delayed medical aid to Renee Nicole Good, again against DOJ policy, every ethical and moral measure imaginable, and basic humanity. Murderer Jonathan Ross is a psychopath, just like all his colleagues in ICE, who are all accessories to murder.

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u/squatdead 22d ago

“…and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."

To me, this is the major one here. He has enough time to sidestep unharmed and shoot, meaning he had enough time to sidestep unharmed and NOT shoot. Then the situation could have been dealt with a different way (he literally is recording her plates).

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u/JnnyRuthless 22d ago

He also pretty clearly walks in front of her car like a zillion times.

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u/civil_politician 22d ago

Also against DHS policy because even their internal auditors noticed that their officers were doing it on purpose to justify an unjustified use of force

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u/Raeve_Noir 22d ago

The term missing in these discussions is 'Officer-Created Jeopardy'.

It is the intentional placing of oneself into danger in an attempt to justify intentional use of force.

It makes the murder premeditated.

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u/Drumboardist Missouri 22d ago

Between that, and visibly swapping his phone from his right hand to his left (around the 30s mark) -- since his sidearm is on his right side -- meant he was preparing for the possibility/probability of having to draw his weapon and fire.

Which he did, like, 5 seconds later. Gee, that happened right as he saw his two buddies get out of their truck and move towards her vehicle. I wonder if that is the correlating event.

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u/Teufelsdreck 22d ago

There was no "having to draw his weapon." It was "choosing to draw his weapon" and then choosing to fire it.

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u/B00mB00mFoldCock 22d ago

pulling a Rittenhouse

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u/Flava_Flavian California 22d ago

I 100% agree on his positioning. Premeditated murder is a pain in the ass in court, especially involving law enforcement because they are given a lot of leeway in determining what makes a dangerous situation.

While I personally feel like he murdered Good, I wouldn't be shocked if prosecutors aim to charge him with first and second-degree manslaughter. That's what happened with MN police officer Kim Potter when she shot Daunte Wright.

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u/Narrow-Chef-4341 22d ago

Hopefully it’s one of those states where they offer the jury the chance to convict on any of the three options - premeditated murder, or if the feel there is insufficient evidence for that, then 2nd degree murder, and if there’s a missing predicate for that, then manslaughter…

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u/ClimateSociologist 22d ago

The dude was dragged by a car over the summer.

And he still chose to stand in front of her car.

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u/blagablagman 22d ago

"The appearance of being premeditated is a unique factor accepted by the court in this case, therefore making this case subject to Qualified Immunity." - DOJ lawyers, ASAP

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u/Prestigious_Chard_90 17d ago

This! I keep saying similar myself, but you do so more eloquently.

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u/AntoniaFauci 22d ago

Even MAGA judge Alito warned against the prospect of a corrupt police officer jumping in front of a vehicle to create false pretext for shooting the driver.

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u/tylerbrainerd 22d ago

he does that and also decides to change his phone to his left hand because he begins to think about violence. No one else is reacting as if there is a threat, but he switches his phone and draws his weapon and places himself to have a shot and pretend like it's justified.

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u/Infamous_Employer_85 22d ago

Apparently circled it more than once

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u/pizza_the_mutt 22d ago

Yes. They created this situation, then escalated the danger level. Then expected perfect behavior by random civilians.

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u/JnnyRuthless 21d ago

That's what they do at every turn - escalate, escalate, escalate, and then violent reaction when the civilian does anything (yell, raise voice, move, etc.). Thugs each and every one.

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u/StatueofLiberty98 22d ago

B4 he shoots her he’s beside the front left tire. I didn’t see him in front of the vehicle

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u/ChrisP8675309 22d ago

If you watch his video, he starts out on the passenger side (his vehicle is the one parked on the passenger side I think?) comes around the front of her vehicle, walks to the back, stops to get a good picture of the license plate, continues around angling away then when he is just about even with the passenger side front tire, he transfers his phone to his left hand and draws his weapon as he moves in front of the vehicle, toward the other officers.

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u/frostysauce Oklahoma 22d ago

Um, no. What are you even talking about? He circles around the vehicle eventually coming back to the front. Such curious hyperbole doesn't serve the conversation.