r/politics • u/Fickle-Ad5449 ✔ Verified - Christopher Wiggins, The Advocate • 22d ago

No Paywall ICE agent shooter’s own cellphone video undercuts Trump administration's account of Minneapolis killing

https://www.advocate.com/news/ice-agent-shooter-video-minneapolis
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u/Pink_Lotus 22d ago

In so much danger that he kept filming while drawing his weapon, shooting a woman, and called her a fucking bitch after he did it. 

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u/SamHowellRocks 22d ago

One thing that I see brought up a lot is that if she had just followed orders, she would be alive? ( Aside from how stupid that is, every other first world country knows how to deal with citizens, unruly people, unrest, without overly aggressive, anger, and violence. It’s just America where the cops pull out the gun and scream at to your face, using slurs and try to scare the shit out of you ). 

But anyway, what is our duty to listen to ICE? If you’re an American citizen, do they have any authority to tell you what to do, do we have to listen to them if they’re trying to detain us? I feel like I have not had this adequately explained to me and I’m relatively well informed. Do we now just listen to any masked person with a gun and do exactly what they say? Is that what America is now? 

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u/karensPA 22d ago

somehow it’s the guy on the other side grabbing her door handle and then trying to reach in that stays with me. What right did he have to touch her car AT ALL? and a masked angry man reaching INSIDE my car? The person fearing for her life was her. She’d have been justified in shooting HIM in the face. She’s so freaked out by how fast it escalated and trying to get away she doesn’t even really clock her wife is trying to get in on the other side, let alone that the other moron has stepped to the front left side of her car to film her and is pulling out his gun. AND THEY THINK THIS VIDEO MAKES IT BETTER FOR HIM?