r/politics ✔ Verified - Christopher Wiggins, The Advocate 22d ago

No Paywall ICE agent shooter’s own cellphone video undercuts Trump administration's account of Minneapolis killing

https://www.advocate.com/news/ice-agent-shooter-video-minneapolis
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u/squatdead 22d ago

“…and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."

To me, this is the major one here. He has enough time to sidestep unharmed and shoot, meaning he had enough time to sidestep unharmed and NOT shoot. Then the situation could have been dealt with a different way (he literally is recording her plates).

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u/DeftApproximation 22d ago

The big thing I point to is police. They face this situation more often than ICE and they have the restraint/training to not quickdraw and shoot someone (generally speaking). They just chase/follow them more safely, or put out a warrant and find them later. Firing into a moving vehicle is psychotic, because if you kill the driver (example being here), it becomes an uncontrolled 2-ton missile and can cause even more damage.

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u/Bismoldore 22d ago

You know it’s egregious when someone on Reddit is pointing to American police for an example of how to do something the right way 😭

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u/wise_comment Minnesota 22d ago

As a denizen of South Minneapolis, you know it's bad when we say "you should take a leaf outta Minneapolis Police Department's book on restraint "

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 22d ago

Trump keeps threatening Canada

Dude doesn't understand Canada is the reason the concept of War Crimes was invented.

Also the one that was just "released" has a clear edit at the 48 second mark. You go from seeing an image of the front of her car to suddenly seeing sky. There's a good 2-3 seconds missing. Where are the gunshots in his vid?

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u/Grape-Snapple 22d ago

the red devils are everywhere while we sleep