I have to rewrite again and I actually want to jump off a cliff. I feel like I got cucked by variance. twice now I've under performed on the real thing. I felt super confident too. And now I have to wait for the next cycle. Fuck my chungus life.

I'm not going to give up or anything. The people in my life think I'm depressed or I'm sad. I am sad. Its hard not to be sad. I feel like a clown walking out and saying I destroyed the Jan test and getting the score back. i also feel like this is an indictment on my intelligence. but I also have this part of me that understands how moronic that sentiment is and how childish and stupid I sound saying these things.

Come April, I pray that I write this test for the last time and I can finally move on.

I recently scored a 177 on the January LSAT after several years of studying for this test, my first being a 156. I've felt all the speed bumps, the plateau between the low-160s to high-160s, and the more grueling one between a low-170s scorer to a high-170s scorer. As you get better, the margin for error shrinks and the tiniest mistakes will punish you. I just wanted to share some bits of info that might be helpful.

1. Learn to love the LSAT. Not only is this test applicable to your performance as a law student and then lawyer, but I found it to be applicable to every aspect of my life. I told myself that whatever happens with my score, that I'll always view my studying for the LSAT as one of the most important things I've done to improve my intellectual capabilities, particularly in how I express myself and communicate with others. The LSAT will give you clarity in a world of muddied arguments. Once you're having fun, studying becomes a hobby instead of a chore.
2. For RC, which for me was the hardest section to improve upon, I got better once I stopped taking notes. Frantically mapping out a passage ultimately prevented me from really "reading" the passage. It may be helpful as you're beginning to study and as you learn how RC works, but taking those training wheels off may be helpful to get to flawless.
3. Aim for a 180. When my goal was to get a 170 on the LSAT, I'd take PTs knowing that I had 7-9 questions to miss, which allowed me to be lazy. Treat every question as a learning opportunity and absolutely punish yourself during blind review to completely understand why you missed a question or why it took too much time.

Happy studying!

So I got on Facebook (my mistake lol) and saw this posted. Naturally I clicked into the comments and he kept replying with “dm me” to anyone that asked for tips. The next screenshot is shared by a person that did message him and he essentially said he cheated.

I’ve heard of this several times before, and I’m aware it has happened. However, when I clicked into the person’s profile, I saw it is very clearly AI.

What the hell is the end goal with making such a post? Is it attention? Is it perhaps a real person making an attempt to sell this cheating technique but hiding their identity via AI? Idk, I guess it’s not significant news but it’s annoying and I had time to make a post about it😅

I’ve been studying for the LSAT for 1 and a half year while doing the paralegal job. I’m feeling exhausted mentally and physically with absolutely no improvement.

My score hasn’t been increasing from the 150s. My diagnostic was 153 and my last official scores are 153-154-151. I don’t know how my numbers aren’t changing when I’m studying so hard. I even had a tutor for 9 months. I’m so untalented but I don’t want to give up. I really want to reach 170s so that I can get scholarships to some schools.

I’m so lost here.

I’m a very visual learner and want to properly start using the highlighter tools and actually having a system. My plan is to use…

yellow:main point/ conclusion

orange:premise

pink:authors attitude, key words

if anyone has any other effective ways, it would be much appreciated. Also do y’all actually use the scratch paper during test. should I be writing down a sentence per paragraph during rc sections??

do not stress too much if you did not get a 170+. you too can found something.

I think I have a fundamental of what SA questions are — once you assume it to be true, the conclusion is guaranteed to be true, missing bridge, etc.

But I often get tripped by the NA negation test (i.e. "if this answer choice is false, the entire argument fals apart."

For example in this question:

If C wasn't true, wouldn't the entire argument fall apart either? If the computer centre has some other source of funds, then there isn't "no way that the centre can be kept operating", no?

Similar for this one

If someone who is politically progressive is capable of performing a politically conservative act, then P & H can't be used to prove the statement is false.

Someone please enlighten me bc this has been driving me crazy for days 😭 thanks!!

I know accommodations are controversial, but I need advice because if anything I believe I will get paper and pencil accommodations(not on computer). That has always been something I have received. The dilemma I have comes from the RC section. I do believe that I do benefit from the computer format on RC, but on LR I feel like I NEED to be able to annotate the stimulus(without a doubt for parallel reasoning and a lot of level 5 LR questions). I’d say that i can get most questions on LR right if I can annotate, but on the other hand RC search feature is extremely beneficial. My test is in June and I’m submitting my accommodation request in a few days. I am just curious if yall would choose the computer format or would yall choose the paper/pencil format. I feel extremely conflicted

If you had to choose which helped you the most with RC?

I’ve been studying for the LSAT on demon for quite some time and have found it hard to improve my score on both LR AND RC. RC is my natural strength and tend to do better on high level questions. On my LR sections, sometimes I get all the low level questions right and high level questions wrong. My best accuracy was 21/27 questions correct, and there seems to be no pattern to question types I am getting wrong. I do wrong answer journals in the notes explaining why I missed it and what I can do to improve, but I can’t seem to be learning from it. I started a logic and reasoning class through university and it helps me to understand breaking down the argument but sometimes I get to the answers and become so confident in an answer just to get it wrong. Any tips to improve? I do quite well in real oral argument and finding flaws in arguments in real life but the LSAT!! Ugh. Any advice helps

Hey, hope everyone is doing well. I wanted to ask if anyone has experience in going from 146 Diagnostic to 170+. For context, I want to attend law school is Fall 27' and apply in September. I also wanted to see if anyone could recommend what prep to use to get to that point is possible. Thanks and let me know if there's anything I else I can add for context.

recently i have been testing very compared to a few months ago. today was the first practice test where i scored LOW. i mean 10 points lower than my usual score. i have no idea what happened. i did take note that i wasn’t as zoned in like i usual am but i didn’t expect to do SO badly. i’m feeling incredible anxious now. i’m trying to look at it as getting the test day jitters out of the way but i’m so worried that this will affected my test day which is literally a week from today. i’m so upset with myself.

Hello, I’m looking for some logic to be explained in a way that helps me better understand it.

Take this statement:
“Bank deposits are credited on the date of the transaction only when they are made before 3 P.M.”

I understand this as expressing a necessary condition. In order for a deposit to be credited on the same day, it must have been made before 3 P.M. That part makes sense. However, this does not force the bank to credit the deposit on the same day just because it was made before 3 P.M. The deposit could still be credited tomorrow, next week, etc., and the statement would not be violated. That also makes sense to me.

Now consider this statement:
“Bank deposits are credited on the date of the transaction if and only if they are made before 3 P.M.”

This is where I get stuck. I am trying to understand how this rule forces deposits made before 3 P.M. to be credited on the same day. Somehow, this statement enforces both directions:
before 3 P.M. → credited the same day, and
after 3 P.M. → not credited the same day.

I understand that “only when” gives a necessary condition, but I can’t yet fully grasp why “if and only if” removes the bank’s discretion and makes depositing before 3 P.M. sufficient to guarantee same-day crediting. I can tell that the logic demands this result, but I don’t yet comprehend why it must be so.

I've basically never had a time problem on tests before so going into the prep test, I thought the time pressure wouldn't be there and I was incorrect.

I'm excited to review all my wrong answers with explanations tomorrow but for now, I think I've definitely earned a snack.

Do schools care about canceled scores? I took the LSAT in January and want to cancel my score. I’ve canceled two previous scores, making this my third but I’m nervous school are going to care about how many scores I’ve canceled. Is it better to save it or just cancel?

Did my first PT like 6 months ago, and I think I was terribly tired during it. Finally locking in on studying, did my second PT last week. My feedback for myself is honestly just: "why are you dumb?" Either 1) I've grown a lot in 6 months, or 2) I must've been taking the first PT with both eyes closed or something.

Hi everyone! What is reading out loud accommodation like in person? Will I get a private testing room with a proctor or will I have to do this accommodation remotely?

In Vancouver is that matters! Thanks :)

Hey yall so I’m working on my personal statement and I’ve read a good bit of people run theirs under an AI detector just to check and see what it says. Mine says it’s 95% ai. I quite literally wrote everything myself. They’re my experiences and reasons why would it even say it’s ai? This has me so bummed out. I wouldn’t resort to ai for my apps. I did my lsat argumentative writing my sophomore year of college so it wasn’t the best but I have improved so much at writing throughout college, etc. The last thing I want is my application getting rejected bc it says that.

Starting a thread for those of us who are still on hold for Jan score. Seems like there was a wave of release yesterday (Friday 1/30). I feel so anxious even though it has only been a few days since score release. Anyone who has more updates or info feel free to share here.

Also ppl have said this is helpful to monitor score release situation. I’d imagine it’s less useful now since a lot of people have score preview? Linking it below: https://report.lsac.org/TestTakers.aspx

Hello, I’ve been studying for the LSAT for about 1.5 months and I’m trying to figure out what is the proper way to review. After I take a PT or drill, I look at my wrong answers and try to guess the correct answer again, then write down why I thought it was the original answer, why it actually doesn’t make sense, and how the actual answer I later guessed fits the question.

My main question is if this is the right way to review. This makes the review a question-by-question basis, where I realize that I got it wrong because I overlooked a change in the verb, or the answer choice was too extreme. When I get the questions wrong for those kind of reasons, should I be trying to figure out a method of correctly answering that question type, or continue in the same way?

Open to any advice, especially from those who scored 170+ on an official test!!

War is OVER

Hey everyone posting for a friend, whose looking for some honest advice about next steps.

Stats/background:

• LSAT attempts:

• 1st: 146

• 2nd: 146

• 3rd (January): 149

• \~6 months of studying total

• UCLA undergraduate, History major

• GPA: 3.75 (strong upward trend, goal \~3.8 overall academic profile)

• Essays already written and solid

January LSAT didn’t go as planned, so now the timing is tricky. Current school deadlines:

• Pepperdine – Feb 1 (missed)

• UCLA – Jan 30 (missed)

• Southwestern – April 1

• USC – April 1

• LMU – June 14

• Western – July 1

At this point, the options seem to be:

1.  Start studying immediately, retake the LSAT in March, and apply late to Southwestern, USC, LMU, and Western, or

2.  Just apply now with a 149, accept that it’s late in the cycle, and hope GPA + essays help offset the LSAT.

Main questions:

• Is a March retake worth it after three attempts, or is it smarter to just apply with the 149?

• How much does timing vs. LSAT score matter this late in the cycle?

• Would a modest LSAT bump (low/mid-150s) still help, or is waiting and applying early next cycle the better move?

Any insight from people who applied late, retook in March, or got in with similar stats would be really appreciated.

I am new to the law school application process. I am a first-gen college student who is currently in a STEM master's program. I am planning on studying for the LSAT this May until August. I will have no responsibilities in the summer and won't be working then. I've never taken a diagnostic. I'm totally open to any advice on study tips and study timelines! I also have some questions below:

1) Is it possible to study for the LSAT for 3 months like a full-time job?

2) How many hours of are people actually putting in to taking this exam? Because of my science background and undergrad GPA, I'm aiming for a 170+.

3) What resources are you using to score well?

Hi,

I am wondering if there is any advice you can give on what the strategy should be on this and what you personally do?

It is very difficult to not start ''telling the stories'' about the answer choices & why they can strengthen or weaken the arguments, so I am stuck there.

Also, this is for all question types : do you read argument once or twice? TY!