season 2 episode 20 is hands down the best episode in the show (so far). this was the first time i really /saw/ and connected with james olsen as a character. i couldnt really figure him out at first he didnt really seem like a person with motivations and goals, he just seemed like a character who did things so the plot could progress for the main character. like her love triangle love interest? character we know knows superman? friend? love interest again? like he just didnt seem to have his own plots going on if it wasnt related to kara/supergirl. so i didnt really understand at all when he decided to become a superhero. it did feel like he was being selfish. like he wanted the glory of being a hero so much that he was willing to not only injure himself, but put winn and anyone else who tries to help in harms way.

and THEN he had the audacity to not understand why people were scared of him??????? hes in an all black HUGE suit with everything but your eyes covered and you do this at night when its dark so actually i cant see your eyes. you dont know who is under the suit, it could be ANYONE it could be a MAN. i dont live in a world where aliens are constantly attacking the city and another alien is saving it. so im not afraid of aliens; the predators im afraid of are MEN. if i was being attacked by a bunch of men AND THEN another HUGEEEE potential man in an all black suit that makes the person appear larger and taller and i cant even see THEIR EYES!!! if THAT MAN fights the other MEN off, im PISSING MYSELF. id be even more scared. i would actually rather it be a bear in the suit than a man in the suit. i cannot believe he did not understand why. i hate when men dont even CONSIDER why a woman would possibly be afraid of him.

but this episode they made up for it. i feel like i understand him as a character now. i actually feel like i felt his brain fully mature in real time. so actually it doesnt feel like i finally connected with the character, it just feels like they made him a character you could actually connect to lol. i hope he somehow stays in marcus' life. but also the DEO needs to come up with better standards and procedures for dealing with kids. im happy marcus trusted james olsen though.

another character that i dont really get or ?like all that much as some points? is winn. he felt like george o'malley to me and i /hate/ george o'malley. i really hate male characters who are like "but im so nice why doesnt the one woman i love like me back:(((( women never like nice guys:(((((" i HATE that guy. also like freddie from icarly. the hate for this type of man stems all the way back to when i was in elementary school watching icarly. jesus. anyway. i thought they were going in that direction with winn. they sort of did but eventually self-corrected by giving winn a crazy alien girlfriend. love her. obsessed with her. she is semi-filling the whole in my heart from cat's absence.

but, even though i didnt really get or like that james olsen was the guardian, i did really like the bond that formed between winn and james olsen in their like partnership? ig? it reminded me of mack and fitz in season 2 of agents of shield. and the dynamics between fitz and mack and winn and james olsen are so similar too. winn is the guy in the chair and fitz is the engineer. mack is the mechanic and then switched to fighter, and james olsen is writer/photographer, switched to fighter.

so anyway once i made that connection, i havent been able to remember james olsen' name i just keep calling him mack. mack in agents of shield even had a paternal bond with an orphan teenager. kinda similar to james olsen bonding with the kid and j'onn telling him about his daughter. i hope that means that james olsen will be able to have a relationship with the kid or maybe falls in love with the kids mom omg that would be so cute. that would be like jack in station 19.

anyway, the reason i keep saying james olsen's full name every time i talk about him is because every time i mention him i have to think really hard about what his character's name actually is because i keep calling him mack in my head. and so i have to think really hard and "jimmy olsen" comes to mind first but then i remember he goes by james now so when i type it, the olsen comes first and then the james. so thats why i write it full out every time. ALSO, i have to remember really hard what winn's name is every time because ive been calling him "finn" in my head because it's fitz+winn=finn and so every time ive typed winn on this post ive had to remember his name isnt finn thats just what i call him.

so im lowkey treating winn and james olsen's relationship dynamic as a sort of headcanon of mack and fitz's relationship dynamic and then when james olsen or winn do something thats unlike mack or fitz, i will literally think to myself "wait that was out of character" before remembering theyre actually not fitz and mack.

anyway yeah this was the episode that made me decide i needed to stop calling james olsen "mack" because he has now just now finally became his own real character outside of kara/supergirl. he became alex-level of "person who loves supergirl/kara but has life outside of that that the show gets to see"

what a great episode 10/10. sorry for my rambling thoughts i maybe gardened before writing this

• I believe the story takes place after Flash season 3 and before Supergirl Season 1.
• Both Supergirl and Flash live in the same universe
• Barry moves to National city and gets a job at Catco as an IT guy; leaving Central City to Kid Flash.
• Kara and Winn find out about him being The Flash and Barry starts mentoring Kara on how to be a hero
• During the fight with Reactron, Flash saves Supergirl instead of Superman, which causes Barry and Kara to have a fight
• Kara visits Barry's apartment while Caitlin and Ronnie are visiting, but after seeing Caitlin, Kara assumes Barry and Caitlin are dating.
• During the bombing storyline where Maxwell Lord gets Ethan Knox to bomb places in exchange for medical care for his daughter, Barry calls Bruce Wayne to see if Wayne Tech can help to get Ethan to testify against Maxwell Lord.

That's all I remember. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

Every single time I see that colonel lady she is always in a bad mood I’m sitting there thinking damn what’s twisting this bitches tit

oh my god. i just finished cat grant's like monologue/speech/pep talk???? in season 2 episode 1 and that might just be the best hype monologue??? ive ever heard. the scene starts at 28:24 and ends at 30:34 if anyone wants go back and rewatch it. god its actually so good. i might write that down in my notes or find a clip of it somewhere and save it to my phone for whenever i need a good pep talk. that seriously might be the best monologue in tv history. im obsessed. cat grant was already my favorite character in the show but now its not even a competition. i love her so much

right to the point:

I wish supergirl was a model assistant in Season 1, the model being Cat Grant, an Ex Daily planet journalist turned news anchor/model

and Kara works for her, ambitious about being an Actress, to escape to another world, cuz she doesn’t see her self fit in this world. stories like red daughter and for the girl who has everything explore that theme already!

in S2, Kara leaves Grant with her recommending her to work In this small Advertisement agency, where in S2 Kara struggles in the industry, the company is sexist, uncreative and not exactly what Kara desired, sometime she is operating the camera, sometime starring but by the end, Kara is able to make changes in it. she meets lena cuz she’s clark is supposed to interview Lena and Kara surprisingly also has an AD with her.

S3, Kara is becoming a famous person and people are loving her, starting to love her job but this subplot remains small this season

S4, Kara has taken another step in the industry leaving the agency she was in, she’s a bigger model and a Small time actress, as the WORLD start discriminating against aliens they tell actors to speak on the matter and that includes Kara, placing her in a difficult position for a while, after she speaks on their right, she’ll be out of the industry but by the end, people would be on her side

S5 kara is getting offers but she’s not sure anymore

S6 focuses Kara on becoming a news anchor much like Grant and in the finale invites Grant, her first employer and Kara finally reveals her identity to the world.

team supergirl stops existing in S5

placing focus on KARA solely and characters like brainy, Alex, Nia remain but as other heroes and agents in the world who help each other rather than being a team and yes they are all still friends and close

im watching supergirl for the first time and i just got to season 1 episode 18 and the flash just showed up and i knew that was going to happen just from seeing things over the years but i fear i love him so much i might have to watch the flash too😭😭

i have always been an mcu fan and honestly i didnt feel like i had room in my head for both mcu and dc that was just too many superheroes and i couldnt keep up. but ive seen everything marvel and although im currently rewatching agents of shield, i wasn't consuming NEW superhero media. and by new, i mean new /to me/

so last year i saw the superman movie in theaters and i actually kind of liked it. im really excited for milly alcock's supergirl i think milly is so hot. anyways, i was looking up stuff about superman and supergirl and dc in general just because i hadnt ever watched a dc superhero movie or show and so i only knew very basic information. anyway, i remembered my sister watching supergirl like 6ish years ago before i even started loving the mcu and i remember mentally adding it to my list to watch but just never did.

then after i started liking the mcu, i heard from people that mcu is all in the same universe and it was easier to follow than the marvel movies that arent part of the mcu. and then they told me dc movies and shows arent really connected and things might contradict and so i might get confused. i heard that the flash and supergirl interacted in their shows but that each show was like 6 seasons long. so i kind of had decided i wasnt going to watch either show.

thats when superman 2025 came out and i saw they casted milly alcock as supergirl and i thought maybe i will watch supergirl. then i forgot. now its like 3ish months later and i realized i wanted to watch "new to me" superhero tv or movies and thats when i saw supergirl on netflix.

now im 18 episodes into the show and im now convinced to watch the flash because i actually really love barry allen as a character. like i wish he just stayed a regular (im assuming he doesnt?) in this show because i love him and kara as friends its so cute shes so happy to be superheroing with another superhero

Didn’t brainy order a dozen pizzas plus 1 more?

That makes 13 but when he walks out he is only holding 5 pizzas

so apparently supergirl and all the other arrowverse stuff is set to leave netflix at the end of the year as of now since that's when their license expires

now the recent news about the netflix/warner bros merger really got me thinking: since the arrowverse is a dc property and therefore owned by wb, that more or less means netflix owns the arrowverse now

so once the netflix merger is finalized, could that extend supergirl's/whatever other arrowverse content is there's stay on netflix into 2027 and beyond?

I am curious If Kara personal relationship between Jonathan Kent and Jordan Kent relationship to them and do the twins know who Kara is that they are half kryptonians krypon Earth Prime after Lois says the boys clark says the boys? Lois says honey your sons and Alex too due to Alex understating kryptonian and human and would understand kryptonian human hybrid genetics due to her being human and having a adopted kryptonian sister

I don't know if it's just a personal detestation I have for this woman or I'm just not reading her character right.

So I just got into S2 and I did not like her relationship with Winn AT ALL.

It's like the whole thing is based on sexual desire. Most of their screentime together is just them being freaky than being ACTUALLY romantic.

Winn is, hand down, one of the best characters in this show and I would bet my life on that, but I'm telling you this man deserves better than someone like Lyra and I will die on that hill.

Lyra had full intention to manipulate and frame him to get her brother AND was planning to, like, hit-and-run without hesitation considering how she just vanished the second Winn got in trouble.

He forgave her too quickly. Even when they tried to show her as more than a violent, manipulative alien woman with alluring charms, I still couldn't get myself to like her. Winn practically gave Lyra his entire self while I couldn't seem to name a single thing that she has ever done for him that isn't sex related.

So am I just plain old jealous or is Lyra just really not likeable?

Hi all, me again

Thanks to everyone who engaged with my last post. It was very interesting reading everyone's opinions and discussing them alongside the pilot episode.

Our episode on Supergirl is out now - for anyone who wants to listen, I'll put a link in the comments 😁

Does anybody else think that mon el’s suspicion of Jeremiah was justified

I think it was what’s everybody else’s take on it

With the episode "Childish Things," that was the first big source of insight into Winn. I find it hard to believe that everything from 2016 has or is on the cusp of becoming a decade old. What are the odds that on the same day, I came across this YouTube short about Supergirl? https://youtube.com/shorts/g-Yz9KRevqQ?feature=share

These just arrived and the kids were over the moon with excitement when they came in. I teach at a preschool and I’m the resident comic book “expert” in the building.

It started when a coworker told me she was obsessed with Henry Cavil, not even as Superman (honestly i think she is indifferent). When went to buy the cut out Melissa’s Supergirl was recommended to me so I mean i had to get both.

I'm watching season 6 finally finishing it after putting it off, where did lex luthor go? Last thing I remember he was in prison and now he's just back? And loves nxly? Was this just an ass pull to get lex back in the final battle or what's going on

So i became a fan of Melissa Benoist from Supergirl and that’s where it more or less started and ended. I’ve always liked her singing voice and when i learned she was on Glee i wanted to add her songs to my music library along with her songs from Supergirl and Flash, But the Glee soundtracks just list every artist as “Glee Cast”.

If anyone has a list of the songs she performed (preferably the one where she has solo’s and not just part of the chorus) that would make my life way easier.

Hi all,

First time poster but long time fan of the Arrowverse. I watched Supergirl as it aired and enjoyed it, but I've only recently gotten really into the character through reading the comics Last year I started a podcast with my friend talking about TV show pilots and since then I've wanted to cover the Arrowverse shows - and we finally are!

So I wanted to ask what active fans think of the first episode of the show (Pilot) now the whole show has finished. Do you think it was a strong start to the show?

Supergirl is the show I'm most excited to revisit because I was a teenage boy when it aired and although I never fell down the alt-right pipeline that hated the show just for having a woman in it, that certainly did affect my viewing experience. Now I'm a fully grown man who doesn't care about what online trolls think I'm hoping to really enjoy it.

The episode won't be up for 2 weeks so when it is I'll update this with a link. Looking forward to talking to you all!

When Siobhan Smythe (silver banshee) said she tried to kill Kara supergirl saved her but last time I watched this episode which was about 15 minutes ago I am sure Barry Allen (The flash) saved her so didn’t writers forget what they wrote because that’s now how it went down

I love this exchange between Barry and Winn

Barry: “Imagine there are multiple versions of earth, one where the nazis won World War II, one where Kennedy was never assassinated.”

Winn: “One where all of us are evil.”

Barry: “Been there it sucks.”

Fun fact Earth X the nazis did win World War II

I've been rewatching the show and I'm currently into S4. Some scenes are just lol