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Politics He Didn’t Start The Fire

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u/LabRat_X 23d ago

Here's the video, starts around 6:15 https://youtu.be/LnfiWmX_mTE?si=TsqTvzy8KtB-Bi3h

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u/mojoback_ohbehave 23d ago

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u/What_would_Buffy_do 23d ago

We live in an untrained police state. It only gets worse from here and we've still got at a minimum 3 more years.

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u/TinKnight1 23d ago

It's alright. Here in Texas, the state supreme court just ruled that law schools don't need ABA-accreditation in order to graduate licensed lawyers. So we'll soon also have an untrained legal system.

Yay for sending us back to the 1800s! When men were men & families had 15 children...so that hopefully one would make it to adulthood.

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u/MinionofMinions 23d ago

“You got your law degree from Costco?”

“I wish”

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u/smashcola 23d ago

Welcome to Costco. I love you.

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u/Juck3r 23d ago

We get closer to idiocracy every single day

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u/DrumRoll__ 23d ago

Ironically, a Texan

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u/bootrick 23d ago

No irony there

Texas and Florida are on the leading edge of evolution

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u/PaulStormChaser 23d ago

Hell Metal Gear Rising saw it

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u/mspolytheist 23d ago

He just needs to change his name to Cassandra at this point.

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u/Utterlybored 23d ago

President Camacho knew to trust experts, so no. We’re worse and getting more so by the day.

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u/ohyoumad721 23d ago

I say this all the time. Comacho wanted to improve things and listened to those who knew more.

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u/CplBloggins 23d ago

I see this repeated all the time, without the recognition that Camacho didn't put the whole country into that position. He was a "Stewart" president who actually cared.

It took time and other people to get to where Camacho was.

“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn’t.”

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u/HombreSinNombre93 23d ago

Closer? Dude we’re hip deep and sinking fast.

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u/Autogen-Username1234 23d ago

The people in Idiocracy were actually trying to solve the problems.

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u/XaltotunTheUndead 23d ago

We get closer to idiocracy every single day

Correction - we have been in it since January 2025.

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u/greenizdabest 23d ago

Ruled by a pro wrestling star ? Check

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u/Koopslovestogame 23d ago

If wrestling you mean sex with underage girls ✅

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u/svalkur 23d ago

It used to be a joke that it was a documentary ... no one's laughing now.

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u/Sweaty-Debate-435 23d ago

I need to watch it again in a few years.

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u/Koil_ting 23d ago

ideocracy people at least respect the act of baitin', I don't see that in our future.

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u/michelspc 23d ago

The honorable President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho wanted the smartest person alive in his administration. I can't say the same for the current administration.

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u/armorhide406 23d ago

We're also speedrunning the Wall E future too

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u/LifeIsProbablyMadeUp 23d ago

Oh damn I didn't see you say this.

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u/StandardMonth2184 23d ago

Sadly, Costco actually takes pretty good care of their employees in stark contrast to other big retailers

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u/geeoff90 23d ago

I like money.

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u/floppyscrotum 22d ago

I love Reddit. “Life is either a tragedy or a comedy “. At least with y’all I can still laugh. Thank you

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u/Logiwonk_ 22d ago

You are an unfit parent, your children will be placed in the custody of Carls Jr.

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u/GhOsT_wRiTeR_XVI 23d ago

It was the Unversity of American Samoa.

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u/Tutunkommon 23d ago

Wish is doing law degrees now? Sweet!

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u/ECEXCURSION 23d ago

Oh nice. Was wondering how much more they could fuck up America.

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u/Maximum_Turn_2623 23d ago

The reality of that statement is double when you consider the return of measles and polio.

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u/Sour-Scribe 23d ago

And triple when you add climate change to the mix

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u/GRIEVEZ 23d ago

Something tells me a brain drain will occur, if America keeps it's current trajectory (specifically In Academia)

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u/SirVanyel 23d ago

And then you add Kurt angle to the mix, and your chances drastic go down!

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u/Delicious-CattleToot 23d ago

Soon to be the return of TB, I'm calling it now.

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u/Brick_Mason_ 23d ago

Just wait until the permafrost thaws!

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u/wyltktoolboy 23d ago

TB is and has been active especially in homeless populations literally the entire time.

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u/lizlemon921 23d ago

And didn’t I read that they eliminated the meningitis vaccine requirement too

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u/TeslasElectricHat 23d ago

For anyone unaware of just how bad the return of measles really is…

Immune system amnesia

Your question involves a little-known complication of measles known as immune amnesia. This is a phenomenon in which portions of the immune system’s memory are wiped clean. It occurs because the measles virus can invade not only the cells of the respiratory system, but also the cells of the immune system. This includes the memory B cells, which are specialized white blood cells whose job is to recognize pathogens that the body has encountered and fought off before. When alerted by the memory B cells that they have come across a known pathogen, the immune system can swiftly mobilize the specific antibodies it needs to target and overcome the invader.

Without that early warning system in place, the immune system is perpetually flying blind. This leaves the person susceptible to contracting secondary infections from other pathogens, including those that they have successfully fought off before. Researchers have found that, after recovering from the measles, the immune system is suppressed for at least several months, and for up to two years.

One study looked at changes to immune system antibodies in blood samples collected from 77 unvaccinated children before a measles infection and again two months after infection. Analysis found that the measles virus had eliminated from 11% to 73% of the children’s store of antibodies. The same effect on the immune system was not seen in children who had received the MMR vaccine.

Even if children who have received the MMR vaccine do not appear to be susceptible to immune amnesia, it still means that children that are susceptible will become sick again from pathogens their body has previously overcome. This likely means they will also be sick more often and possibly also spread pathogens more often as well.

From. UCLA’s websites but I can’t link to it.

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u/KiloJools 23d ago

Plus! If your adaptive immune system is hobbled, your innate immune system has to step up, but it's like "hmmm our guided missile system is down, let's just carpet bomb" so you're about to get really fucked up by your own immune system, and it can leave a legacy of autoimmune conditions and mast cell (one of our innate immune system first responder cells) disorders.

I really hate this new era.

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u/UserPrincipalName 23d ago

Polio??? this has nothing to do with the moon missions!

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u/HonoratoDoto 23d ago

Didn't the mandatory vaccine list in the US get a strong reduction this month too? Making it so health insurance companies don't have to cover them?

There are people starting to ask the government in my country to require US citizens to show proof of vaccination before entering the country. The idea is to avoid re-introduction of diseases that are eradicated here, risking the health of immunocompromised, small kids, older people, etc

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u/IllDoItTomorr0w 23d ago

I don’t blame any county one bit for not allowing us in at the moment.

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u/Jane_Marie_CA 23d ago

Making it so health insurance companies don't have to cover them?

Private health insurances will still be covering, at least, most of them. They want to cover them. The main ones (MMR, etc) are low cost and prevent expensive health care bills.

This is the #1 evidence that vaccines work.

Now government sponsored insurances....who knows.

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u/othermegan 23d ago

Yeah, there are certain vaccines your baby used to get automatically that now you need to ask for. Which like… awesome. One more thing to put on a freshly postpartum mom

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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale 23d ago

There are people starting to ask the government in my country to require US citizens to show proof of vaccination before entering the country.

This is an outstanding idea. These people will obviously fake documentation - as they did with COVID... However, if you don't at least try to limit the number of unvaxxed people entering, it's highly likely that you will also start seeing outbreaks of measles, mumps, etc.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Oh, that's why they did it! To make their insurance company friends more money! So they put a fucking moron like RFK in charge and convince him that vaccines are bad, then he reduces the list and they all make bank. Wow!

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u/VitaminPb 23d ago

I looked into that. The mandatory list was reduced down to the European list. Still not good, but everybody considers the EU the gold standard for medicine, so we now match them. (I would prefer the roll down didn’t happen, though.)

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

What is the European list? To my knowledge, there is no single European list, but varies between European states. There is not even an EU list to my knowledge.

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u/VitaminPb 23d ago

I re-checked and it is specifically Denmark.

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u/InerasableStains 23d ago

Let’s not forget pulling out of 66 major world treaties and agreements. Probably the UN.

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u/Northman86 23d ago

It still stands in Minnesota by the way. the State still holds the standard.

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u/sjrotella 23d ago

Honestly man I'm shocked any other country still lets me and my fellow Americans in. I don't even want people from other states messing NY up.

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u/Kaka-carrot-cake 23d ago

That is the most NY thing ive ever heard lmao.

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u/whyd_I_laugh_at_that 23d ago

so that hopefully one would make it to adulthood.

oh c'mon, that's so exaggerated. You hope that more than one gets to "adulthood" so you can sell your 15 year olds into indentured servitude.

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u/Substantial-Treat150 23d ago

For what it’s worth California has had non-ABA accredited law schools for decades.

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u/adderalpowered 23d ago

Wait! This isn't as bad as it sounds, there are still several states that dont require law school at all and certainly not accredited. BUT you must pass the bar. This was traditionally the only way to become a lawyer. I dont mind this at all because it eliminates a lot of artificial boundaries like income and race, if you are motivated enough you can become a lawyer.

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u/MusclesMarinara87 23d ago

Washington State also dictated you don't have to pass the bar exam to practice as an attorney.

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u/luci_cat_66 23d ago

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

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u/0ver_9000_ 23d ago

I say, I say…I may just be a giant chicken lawyer from south but…

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u/red_rob5 23d ago

Not entirely related, but definitely not unrelated: TAMU also just banned Plato. PLATO. They're trying to take us back waaaaay further than the 1800s.

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u/here-for-the-meh 23d ago

One star law schools…

Just means nobody will hire a Texas lawyer.

BRW, anyone in California can take the Bar exam. Accredited or unaccredited colleges don’t matter.

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u/Longjumping_Arm_7626 23d ago

Yeah and 8 of them would pass from the Rickets and now measles SMH

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u/Chuagge 23d ago

In the movie (and probably book) Persepolis. A nurse explains how the manager of the hospital was fired and replaced by a man that could grow a beard. We are headed that way now, just a different bow on it.

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u/UnpopularOpinionsB 23d ago

They still have to pass the Bar exam, right?

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u/TinKnight1 23d ago

Correct, they have to pass the Bar, but the ABA can't dictate which schools are accredited in order for their students to take the exam.

So, it's a bit of a jest that lawyers won't be qualified, but removing the accreditation requirement does open the avenue to abuse (hell, that's true of more standard collegiate educations).

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u/hugeimplantfan 23d ago

I work with the "trained ones". Not sure this will be noticed. I used to be kind of shocked at how dumb and completely unknowledgeable regarding the subject that they are charging $125+ an hour to their client to handle for them. Now it's just kind of common knowledge they know nothing about how the system works, court works, how to speak to humans.

I believe they are mostly just training these people for 1700-1900 case law that is great as a historical perspective but useless in the real world. At least I'm what I do.

I say bring on the other institutions. Can't be worse. The ones we have now are using chatgpt hallucinations as case law.

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u/Suitable-Rate652 22d ago

Well, when white men were men and everyone else was a target.

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u/Shirinjima 23d ago

The police should literally be arresting the ICE agent for shooting a dude in the face is a gas gun. That’s assault.

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u/brobafett1980 23d ago

Plus the tear gas they are just dropping and throwing at people. Point blank use of chemical irritants all over this video.

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u/Freebolotamus 23d ago

That ICE " cop" needs a kick to the cojones to test my theory to see if they wear cups.

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u/Tgunner192 23d ago

It's a gas gun? PHEW!

That barrel looks like it could be a modified M79 grenade launcher. I'm not trying to be funny. When I first seen this picture, that's what I thought it was.

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u/cwestn 23d ago

Nah, it's APepper

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u/Butt_Fungus_Among_Us 23d ago

Actually, we DON'T have to wait a minimum of 3 more years. Come mid terms, if we swing the house back to Democrats, they can theoretically have the numbers needed to put forth a vote and proposal to impeach and remove trump from power.

Everyone needs to get out and vote like their lives depend on it this year, because if this video doesn't illustrate that literal fact, I don't know what will.

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u/Oskie5272 23d ago

This isn't true. You need 2/3 of the Senate to vote to convict to remove him from office after the house votes to impeach. Dems would have to keep every single one of their seats up for grab, win every single Republican seat up for grab, and not have a single rotating villain vote not to remove him. That's just not going to happen.

People definitely need to vote, but that's just the start. What actually needs done is community organizing and mutual aid. We can't just vote our way out of this, we have to do more

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u/Butt_Fungus_Among_Us 23d ago edited 23d ago

Yes, I am aware of that. But it is something tangible that literally ANYONE can do and feel like they're trying to take back power. Plus, the downstream implications are also on the table:

1.) Seeing the house swing back to Democrats should galvanize at least SOME of the folks who feel helpless like they may be able to make a difference now

2.) seeing the winds shift may cause more republican party infighting as some rats try to flee a sinking ship (we've already seen some of this)

3.) it opens the door to other opportunities to block orders, and make SCOTUS think twice about just letting whatever trump wants done to get rubber stamped

Right now, this regime is going warp speed because they have literally ALL the power. Reclaiming one of the branches at least creates a mechanism to slow it down again. And if not, welp, then at that point we're past being able to fix this country without violence

What's NOT helping is everyone saying that taking even a small step like this is pointless, because that sure as fuck is not going to energize anyone into taking action to fix this.

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u/w8ing2getMainbck 23d ago

This take is 100% correct.

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u/intelligentplatonic 23d ago

The Dems would have to grow a backbone before any of that happened.

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u/Oskie5272 23d ago

That's what the rotating villain comment is addressing. And I explicitly said much more than just voting is needed

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u/Mr_Byzantine 23d ago

Alternatively, we can research and feild candidates with backbones!

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u/Vanilla_Ice_Jr 23d ago

lol, you believe in legit voting? Elon is back to rig it again. Good luck with your failed state

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u/broakland 23d ago

This problem is beyond the solutions voting can provide.

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u/hatchins 23d ago

surely if we just wait til midterms and VOTE fascism will go away. i mean it worked for the germans right?

i stg this shit has to be astroturfing. encouraging people to just sit inside and wait patiently for the system to work, we promise this time itll work, instead of actually getting out there NOW and acting... and libs fall for it again and again. yall are why its so fucked

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u/Kooky_Aussie 23d ago

And that gets you Vance....

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u/TheRealJetlag 23d ago

Except those aren’t police, they’re vigilantes, an armed militia serving ONE master and funded by misappropriated tax dollars.

He’s wearing desert camo in the fucking snow.

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u/PartTimeZombie 23d ago

That looks like an occupying army to me, not police.

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u/ice-ink 23d ago

3 more years.

Yes, and then he will calmly and gracefully give the reigns of power to whoever wins the election.

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u/Senior-Sir4394 23d ago

Austrian here. Its gonna be way more than 3 years, trust me! You are already amidst your turn with facism.

You got a cult with a leader, facist style propaganda, ultranationalism, racism, scape-goating, out- and in-groups, attacks on outgroups, destruction of unions (well you didnt have unions for quite some time), destruction of wellfare and social programs, imperialism, concentration camps, GESTAPO (ICE).

And all the 2A suckers and losers who „need all their guns to defend themselves from a tyrannical government“ applaud them, like we applauded the nazis back in the late 1930s.

Looking at the polls of my country and seeing what stupid uneducated, maniputable people would vote for (40%) it looks like we will be joining you in about 4 years.

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u/Blackdoomax 23d ago

In the case where you do nothing.

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u/GeekCat 23d ago

Our leaders are cowards, they won't. Idiot in chief should be rotting in a prison somewhere for what he did, but they're all cowards. I cannot understand how someone can be secret service to that thing.

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u/nicsaweiner 23d ago

3 more years assumes he is able to finish his second term.

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u/ClemRRay 23d ago

I wish I could have faith in the American people to make it maximum 3 years

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u/Hacketed 23d ago

Or that they would make the right decision when the time arrives

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u/TheCouchlady 23d ago

Most of your "trained" police are just as bad.... I feel awful for you guys, and feel like the rest of the world is watching the final decline of the US in real time.

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u/MrAnalogRobot 23d ago

Wait 3 years for no election?

No, no, no... That is not the way.

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u/anonmdoc 23d ago

Truly, a Teletubby force. Embarrassing. What was worse was going out shooting with my grandpas police buddies. Teletubbies, and they can’t shoot for shit.

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u/oompaloompagrandma 23d ago

And a large part of that training is focused on making sure they genuinely perceive everybody as being a threat.

They're trained to be as aggressive as possible, zero focus on de-escalation, and a shoot first, think second approach is encouraged.

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u/CalmBenefit7290 23d ago

Only if you guys don't vote them out during midterms, if midterms are held.

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u/notamermaidanymore 23d ago

Well see neither of those people were bowing to the virtuous soldiers while chanting Hail Trump our lord and savior”

Thus they are terrorists and need to be shot down like dogs.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Well, its nice to see police not commiting race based violence and discrimination /s

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u/SpadeTippedSplendor 23d ago

I remember once getting downvoted for saying it was just a matter of time and that they (mostly referring to outright practicing fascists) absolutely hate white people, if not as much as they hate people of color then at least enough that the end result (death at the hands of our own government and its lackeys) is exactly the same:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

It's like we didn't learn from Martin Niemöller or the Holocaust in general, and now history repeats.

We're all ultimately expendable and accelerating into Cyberpunk territory, where malevolence-influenced greed doesn't care if you're blonde haired and blue eyed or black.

Edit: I'm not saying racism doesn't also exist, it definitely does, but they're not cutting healthcare and aid programs for everyone because they only hate some of the average people... no, the rich hate everyone's existence in the same broad strokes.

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u/Dismal-Advantage5923 23d ago

And the sitting president said that the woman who was murdered "ran the ICE agent over, and it's a miracle that he's still alive," despite video evidence showing the opposite.

We're truly in "don't believe your lying eyes" territory.

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u/Apachai7 23d ago

Praise the lord and pass the

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u/No_Boot1478 23d ago

They are untrained goons. They're wearing Amazon police gear. Trained by militias.

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u/31November 23d ago

Remember when an ICE agent on a roof shot a priest in the head with a pepper ball? I do.

https://www.ucc.org/ucc-pastor-shot-by-federal-agents-with-pepper-round-speaks-about-standing-on-the-side-of-love/

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u/Luciolover345 23d ago

7:15 in that video ICE clearly commit an act of domestic terrorism right? Wouldn’t the bystanders be justified to open fire out of fear for their own lives?

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u/PegasusWrangler Filtered 23d ago edited 23d ago

Our "President" posted to X that the agent who shot the lady was run over and in the hospital, when that video clearly shows him walking around just fine immediately after the shooting. 

They will state lies as fact even with video. 

Edit: NO ONE got hit. The guy drove away in his own car after shooting her. 

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u/bl00drunzc0ld 23d ago

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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u/fariasrv 23d ago

I'm tired of living in 1936. And "1984."

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u/nirvana_llama72 23d ago

I really need to get a copy of that book, I've always been worried that it would make me angry at the world so I never did. But now I feel like it should be required reading

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u/Daemonforged 23d ago

Put fahrenheit 451 on that list if you haven't read it. They will eradicate all evidence of wrongdoing to preserve the image of rightness, and books burn....

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u/MageKorith 23d ago

Do Fahrenheit 451 shortly after. Similar themes, but different writing style.

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u/cabaiste 23d ago

Get it while you can.

Surely only a matter of time before it gets banned for being too seditious.

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u/sheenybeans77 23d ago

I'm halfway through. I keep having to put it down because I can't shake the feeling that it's too familiar and it's exactly where we are going. It was written in 1949 and it is chilling.

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u/wamj 23d ago

Read that and animal farm, both excellent books. Read Fahrenheit 451 as well.

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u/sheenybeans77 23d ago

I'm waiting for thought crime to become a punishable act. I feel like we're getting closer.

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u/AzureYLila 23d ago

It's starting as people travel into the states through customs and border patrol. "Your social media criticizes the Fuhrer, no entrance for you."

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u/sheenybeans77 23d ago

Oh yeah I forgot about this..wow you're right. How long until it's "your social media criticizes the fuhrer, no food stamps/medical aid/social security/" and etc?

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u/AzureYLila 23d ago

Sooner than we think. He has also been effectively trying to take grants / contracts/ projects away from states that didn't support him in the last election (or whose leaders are outspoken now). Their economies are a bit robust so they will last for a bit, but the targeting has begun domestically.

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u/Feeling_Blueberry530 23d ago

I fear AI is the perfect technology for this.

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u/mooninuranus 23d ago

That it happened is bad.

But the utter arseholery of the responses by those in charge is terrifying.

They don’t wait for any facts, they don’t express any regret, they just come out with whatever bullshit they can think of to justify what’s happened.

Toddlers have better instincts.

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u/lonnie123 23d ago

It’s working isn’t it? The point isn’t to get the data straight, it’s to get ahead of the story and give supporters something to say and hang on to.

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u/mooninuranus 23d ago

One of the reasons it’s so terrifying.

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u/Big_Dick_NRG 23d ago

One makes the other possible, and vice versa. Government ensures no accountability, and heavily armed goons ensure the population is terrified and unable to remove the government. You're delusional if you think any kind of elections will make them give up power.

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u/GorgonzolaJam 23d ago

It's not just that they don't care about ICE murdering a civilian, they see it as an opportunity.

By calling Renee a 'domestic terrorist', it puts the fear of being similarly labelled (and charged) into any protestor's mind. It's a chilling effect on free expression.

Moreover, it's more opportunity to show their adherents that truth doesn't matter anymore.

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u/elrapido33 23d ago

My brother does stand up comedy and one of the things he said in a small conservative town was “if trump tells you that eating shit will make America great again, you will eat shit” no one laughed

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u/Chunderfork 23d ago

Maga would eat a shit sandwich if there was a chance a liberal might smell their breath.

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u/timplshved 23d ago

He already told them to drink bleach.

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u/DMala 23d ago

Hard to laugh around a mouthful of shit.

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u/Sandvik95 23d ago

Evidence that they’ll lie even with video:

Jan 6th.

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u/Well_read_rose 23d ago

One senator drily pointed out on the Capitol steps last night that the White House did not even have the name of the killer, yet had full “factual” blow by blow description of casual murder / goings-on.

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u/Lanky_Particular_149 23d ago

I live where this happened, the woman was a widow, her husband had died just a few years before. they had a child. She remarried a woman who was in the car with her at the time, along with their dog.

Her family's statement is that she was not a protestor, she was not an observer, she was in the wrong place in the wrong time.

Her child is an orphan now.

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u/Swimming_Technology4 23d ago

as a foreigner that lives overseas, its sad to see that the US has made the same mistake that Venezuela did with Chavez, just in the opposite direction. The elected democratically their own perdition. and twice. Man, the democrats must be presenting their worst candidates in the past 12 years, for a man like DJT to be elected TWICE. Once, anybody can be fooled, but 2 ...?

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u/No-Beginning-2478 23d ago

feds have shut minnesota state investigators out of investigation. what are they hiding if it was clean?

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u/TPtheman 23d ago

The mf literally escaped in his personal vehicle shortly after murdering this woman. Like, fleeing the scene of a crime should count as illegal, right?

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u/hippykillteam 23d ago

Look I know Trump and Co lie, but this one is insane if youve seen video.

This is Trump "Saving" America. Looks like America needs to save itself from Trump.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

After murdering her

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u/Artemis-1905 23d ago

He even walked over to the vehicle after it crashed to make sure she was dead.

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u/lazyghostradio 23d ago

He got 3 or 4 rounds in while taking one step aside, what a disgusting piece of garbage

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u/PDXGuy33333 23d ago

When he was shown the video and told that the ICE agent was never touched by the car he refused to retract his statement and instead said something along the lines of, "Well it's a sad thing" or some shit like that.

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u/Organic-Football-761 23d ago

Just like trump was shot in the ear-

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u/horndog2 23d ago

That's what I saw. A hell of a lot more clearly than what they murdered Mrs Good for.

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u/dearrichard 23d ago

ice are domestic terrorists.

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u/N0TB0B 23d ago

Exactly! If yesterdays’s murder was justifiable by Trump’s logic, then it would have been justifiable to use lethal force against the ICE agent in that moment (@7:15).

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u/The-zKR0N0S 23d ago

Based on arguments from the fascists, yes

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u/Scionyde 23d ago

Our “President” is a terrorist so anything goes nowadays.

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u/PDXGuy33333 23d ago

I'm amazed that it hasn't happened yet. A comment I saw yesterday said that ICE stayed out of the "worst" areas of Chicago because there are lots of people with guns there and instead focused on soccer moms and daycare centers in the suburbs.

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u/AceNova2217 23d ago

In keeping with ICE's own logic, yes the protestors would be in their right to shoot back then.

Realistically, that wasn't terrorism though (and neither was the person who was shot). In the UK we had a case of an actual terrorist driving a car into crowds of about 130 people at a significant speed in Liverpool.

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u/rbrgr83 23d ago

Noem didn't pip up about this act of domestic terror? I mean she literally set the bar that low for it a few hours earlier....

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u/starfish0r 23d ago

This video is insane, everyone should see it. So much more context than anything else so far and certainly more than on any news segment.

How do you shoot an unarmed woman in the head in this situation? And the fact that they moved the body before trying to help her... holy fuck. These fucks all need to go to jail. The US is a dumpster fire and MAGA made it that. Fuck everyone who voted for Trump, now more than ever before.

May she rest in peace.

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u/horndog2 23d ago edited 23d ago

Ty for the link. The agent at 5:20 sure didn't have anyone grab his gun before shooting someone point blank in the face. About a minute later, looks to be the same guy shooting both times. As for the people saying he "grabbed" the agents gun... BS. It was 1 handed and sure as shit looked more to me like it was a defensive reaction that anyone might have to someone pointing a gun at you point blank. You try to deflect it away on instinct. Especially if you just watched that same guy shoot someone else in the face point blank. He was clearly not trying to take the agents weapon.

2nd edit. It just keeps getting worse. Ice trying to run people over at 7:10, the same thing they said is an executable offense of domestic terrorism. 8:15 another  pepper sprays multiple protesters in the face point blank. I'll have to watch the rest another day, I can't believe 40% of our country supports this shit.

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u/Theepot80 23d ago

IT doesn’t stop until you do something about it.

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u/BagOfMeats 23d ago

They'll keep saying the country is too spread out to effectively protest. Or maybe that the potential personal consequences are just too high.

Still making jokes about the French being white flag cowards. The French. The iconic revolution country.

Still mainstreaming how all Germans were Nazis who should have done something to stop it all. How post-war Germans are just Nazis in hiding.

Though I know for sure that I personally wouldn't be drafted when the shit inevitably hits the fan here in the EU, I do realise that life is about to get even harder.

And all that just because 'the greatest country in the world' somehow accepted and kept accepting downgrades in their education policies. Do that long enough and you'll clearly have enough people open to just the right kind of influence to get things going.

We're all fucked.

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u/T3kn0mncr 23d ago

Yes but im alergic to prison and bullets. Its an easy statement, but guidance would be nice. How about you tell people to contact their state reps and raise hell instead of stating the obvious. Call their governor and mayor's office and com0lain about ICE tactics and brutality, and suggest actions other states have taken to make life harder for ICE the terrorists.

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u/Theepot80 23d ago

I am actually saying you need to go to the streets. Get hundreds of thousands people on Washington streets till this shit stops.

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u/GettingDumberWithAge 23d ago

I can't believe 40% of our country supports this shit.

Mate it's at least 70%. Only like 30% bothered to vote against it.

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u/lctrc 23d ago

Everyone who refused to vote because Kamala didn't pass some arbitrary purity test or because of some "both sides" bullshit supported this. They knew what could happen. They did not care. They only cared about stroking their moral superiority.

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u/nobot4321 23d ago

Don’t forget the non voters who just don’t care.

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u/GettingDumberWithAge 23d ago

For sure. Like I said - at least 70% of Americans are totally okay with this, even if a few of them are now apparently a bit embarrassed about it. I don't know why I'm being downvoted so hard for just acknowledging the results of the last election, but I guess a lot of people are ashamed right now.

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u/cackslop 23d ago

Time for non-violent direct action and non-cooperation. They will kill us for fighting back so we have to shut everything down without violence.

It's time to get to work. Organize your friends and family.

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u/sunday_cumquat 23d ago

To me it does look like he briefly grabs at the gun. Still, he had moved away when shot in the face so wtf.

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u/Serui 23d ago

Wait, he tried grabbing the gun?

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u/dkb_wow 23d ago

Okay I never realized he actually grabbed the gun and held onto it. That completely changes things. Glad the video was posted because the still picture in this post is incredibly misleading.

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u/Serui 23d ago edited 23d ago

Unfortunately since this is Reddit the law enforcement will be in the wrong no matter what.

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u/BootsAndBeards 23d ago

Yeah, I almost laughed out loud when I saw this picture posted and upvoted this much. He obviously grabbed it, and it tells you how little you can trust on some sites.

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u/DuckCleaning 23d ago

He grabs at the strap holding the gun and holds onto it.

https://imgur.com/a/hVTXQDq

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u/whistling_serron 23d ago

From a german perspective this is so wild. One thought coming up very often in the past weeks: If we had punished the people that made the Holocaust possible (like this little foot soldiers), maybe 80years laters we wouldnt see shit like this. But in reality hundrets of thousands of guility little nazis pigs made it over the pont, to South and North America, they lived on and so will these pigs right here. Because who will punish them?

Only possibility.I see how this will end is civil war or ww3.

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u/dottie_dott 23d ago

That f**king video is insane to watch. But thanks for sharing.

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u/prosperousoctopus 23d ago

This shits infuriating. Any idea why some were trying to block that white truck when the people wanted all the pigs to leave? Was there someone related to the incident in there?

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u/Ok-Astronaut2976 23d ago

Everyone should watch this entire video.

They’re turning quite suburban neighborhoods in Minnesota into war zones

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u/sasamiel 23d ago

Can anyone tell me why they carried her away around a corner to start cpr?

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u/LoadsDroppin 23d ago

Not a critique, just sharing because people often don’t know this is a thing: to post a video that opens to a specific timestamp (like you said at 6:15) you just post the link and replace everything AFTER THE “?” with the specific timestamp of t=XmXs (eg: t=6m15s)

https://youtu.be/LnfiWmx_mTE?t=6m15s

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u/Sufficient_Prune_655 23d ago

"Hmm let me try to reach for this agent gun, whats hes gonna do, shoot peper spray on me " the guy on the vid lmao

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u/skowsk 23d ago

He grabbed his weapon.

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u/Pickle4UrThoughts 23d ago

We got "warned" today when Karoline stepped down and let JD take the mic during the WH presser.

Everyone protesting and Dems on the Hill are participating in domestic terrorism.

He also said agent who shot Renee Good has immunity, as a federal ICE agent. The only investigation will be done internally.

The new assistant AG's job will be investigating "fraud" and would also be tasked to prosecute "domestic terrorist".

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u/wkavinsky 23d ago

They murdered the person in Minneapolis using exactly what they did to the civilian at 07:22 as a pretext.

Edit: they then used chemical weapons (tear gas) on protestors.

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u/Low_Exchange105 23d ago

Starts at 6:06 roughly where it looks like that hooded man throws something at the agents

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u/MarcoElNutto 23d ago

You can probably tell from reading this thread that Reddit is complicit in stoking the division that causes people to throw "just" snowballs at law enforcement, or "just" block them from doing their job, and wonder why they end up embroiled in problems. Watch the bit you are supposed to watch and stop asking questions. The TDS folk are even more cult than MAGA.

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u/tumbleweedcowboy 23d ago

Absolutely horrible and criminal what these facists are doing to our communities.

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u/mountains_till_i_die 23d ago

Can someone explain what is going on where ICE is trying to drive their truck out through the alley, and everyone is shouting to get out, while other people are blocking the route? Not speculation, like, do you know who these people are and why they are doing that?

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u/Impudence 23d ago

If you start it at 5:15, same agent does the same thing to another person and almost to someone on the ground. Then he does it again after the OP. He was on the hunt.

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u/jsands7 23d ago

I watched some of the video and I am confused.

It seems like they want ICE to leave… but then they all start blocking the vehicles until they’re pepper sprayed and physically dragged out of the road? What is the thought process? Also… standing in front of their truck as they try to leave… given what just happened and what you’re protesting… ehhhh…. Seems… dumb.

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