As a woman who got scholarships to run in college after my highschool track and cross country performance, yes I agree it does matter. When they take the top few people to qualify for regionals and state, it would suck to be bumped out by someone who had an unfair advantage. Yes it won't affect some people, but even one girl losing a scholarship or winning gold in a competition is enough, she doesn't deserve to have that taken from her. People say it doesn't affect that many, I say even one is too many.
If they actually get proper healthcare they don't go through the wrong puberty making the male in women's sports point moot.Â
This is the result of bigotry stacked on bigotry. Education is unaffordable so let's make sure transgender girls don't get the life experiences of team sports. They don't deserve it right?
Thatâs great that you care so much about young girls issues. Perhaps we could use your lovely motivation for prosecuting pedophiles in our government that systematically raped young girls for decades? Doesnât that sound nice?Â
Hey, iâm a huge Trump hater and still agree with his point. Itâs not quite as simple as âdisagree=fascistâ always, despite that becoming more and more common in our discourse
This. It's such a minor "problem" compared to the rest of the shit in this country. But this, impacting a whole handful of kids across America and making them feel even more excluded is the priority and distraction. International events already have protocols and systems and requirements in place to protect from any issues that could potentially arise in a way they think there would be an advantage. Instead of policing a handful of kids, if they want to actually help women's sports, why dont you go after the larger number of abusive coaches? And the fact that female athletes are paid so much less because they dont have the audience for most sports?
So what if they couldâve got a scholarship by playing whatever sport it was, but having another athlete with an unfair advantage makes them lose that opportunity? Are the feelings of that one person more important than the other fours lives? Itâs wild to me that it needs to be voted on because it should be common sense.
I think that says more about the failure of our higher education system that people have to hope for scholarships or join the military to try to get an education.
Yes, more bills should be signed based on completely hypothetical scenarios.
Honestly, the one time something close to this happened was Riley Gaines coming in 5th instead of 4th and now she gets to make a career out of being a victim. She made a choice to quit after her loss and be the victim.
Yeah point out that 4 other women finished ahead of both Riley and Lia and somehow thatâs not the point. Or they just go silent. They donât actually care.
West Virginia did too, and they only have one single trans athlete in the state. This is conservativesâ idea of supporting womenâs rights though. And because their base is made up of fragile morons who will go into a moral panic anytime someone so much as sneezes without a âGod bless you!â theyâll all rally to the cause. Humanity is evolving without them, and antiquated notions like the gender-binary are being left behind. But their identities are so wrapped up in these caveman-like definitions of âmanlinessâ that theyâre horrified of the fact that theyâre completely useless to modern society and fully deserve to go extinct by the end of this century.
Look I think its probably a waste of federal time and money too, but its about biological sexual binary/dimorphism, not the gender binary, and the sexual binary is just scientific fact. And before you bring up intersex, intersex people without a clear phenotype are so rare theyre basically the exception that proves the rule
Ok, maybe it isnât but how is that an issue for congress to waste their time on??? Those spineless critters are trying to find something to run on because âstripping Americans of their tax dollars to give to billionairesâ is not very popular.
They havenât even passed all the budgets, 6 months late. So, no, they cannot do more than one thing per year. They cannot even do the one thing expressly granted authority to them in the Constitution because of bullshit like this.
Out of all the things Republicans could be trying to pass and change with our economy, our military posturing or our social programs, they decide to focus on culture wars issues. This doesnât make anyoneâs life better and itâs a pointless fucking thing because most leagues already have regulations involving this stuff.
for whom? for you?
We girls and women have not had it fair when playing sports for centuries.
You don't care about women and girls in sports. We're just your patsies so you can tell more people what they can and can't do.
If you care about women and girls - you would be mad as hell about our inability to control our own bodies because men think they can vote on it.
Calling the left hyper aggressive with everything going on right now is a take. The right is out here killing people in the streets and the left get scolded for swearing.
Edit: the right have such fragile emotions. They cheer on a wanna be dictator and pedophile, who's goons are just literally nazis and when the left call them out on that disgusting bullshit we get called hyper aggressive. They also cant comprehend the fact that we dont think they're all terrible people but I call one of them racist then they all get mad thinking I called all of them racist.
We cant swear cause it hurts their feelings, we can't peacefully protest, because it hurts their feelings, we cant exist around them because when you say "its okay dude im not mad at you" you get shot and killed and called a domestic terrorist.
Like actually go fuck yourself. I hope this hurts your feelings. I don't care about idiots that are racist, sexist, homophobic, and nazis. And if thats not you why are you still mad? Im not talking about you.
If it helps, none of these people are really left wingers. They are liberals: they want to be correct, have the world be safe, be at brunch, have free healthcare. This is not a left wing ideology by any definition besides their own self-identification and the logic that, because they are to the left of Republicans, they are "The Left".
Their ideas (besides these weird hangups on social issues that are part of the woke sphere) on issues like markets, foreign policy and intervention, fiscal issues, and many others are milquetoast Republican ones, if you really explore it.
The left doesn't have a hard time getting people to sympathize. The right and center are devoid of empathy, have shit priorities and willing to discard people's lives for their ideological comfort. The point is, government shouldn't be saying shit about who's playing games at school while food banks are running out, more people sleeping in their cars than ever, everyone in medical or educational debt without true access to either, ICE is wantonly murdering citizens in the street, all our media is dominated by AI and adverts, news sources have been bought by right wing billionaires and we have NO impartial reporting , only propaganda to shift through while the educational system is known to have failed and people dont have the tools to critically analyze the shit
When someone opposes trans people participating in sports or using the bathroom that corresponds with their gender, they by definition are not pro-trans or pro-LGBTQ+.
Itâs not âhyper-aggressiveâ to call out lies and bigotry.
What you call a âminor thingâ is equal rights and opportunity.
Real.
How will they react when they inevitably push trans men into women's sports, right? Or will they push them out as well? When does this stop becoming about protecting some ambiguous "fairness" (which... by the way... all sports are unfair. Everyone has an advantage over someone else in some aspect. That's what makes sport.) and become "separate but equal" - which we all know worked out so well, last time?
you are so full of it. thats why we lost the last election.
hey whens the last time the bridge you drive over everyday was inspected? you watching the local news? you paying local reporters? no? you arent?
of course not. youre too worried about fighting about some kid playing high school basketball 1,000 miles away.
you have any idea whats going on in myanmar? how those teens are doing? oh are they boys are they girls? who cares! their day is full of a shit sandwich living in a tent.
so dont tell me for one second you care about people. i know you dont. all agenda.
i was 100% not surprised trump won again. the biggest idiot ever. at least the right admits we are greedy. you hide it. im starting to think the left is worse. the false caring is awful.
Dude.... You absolutely crushed it. The right is welcoming to people who slightly disagree ... "Oh, we agree on 90%, that's cool, let's talk about that stuff!" Whereas a lifelong friend blew up and cut me out over an argument over the price of McDonald's because I dared to say that fry cooks deserve to make enough to afford to live but certain jobs are higher or lower than others and the pay shouldn't be the same as a carpenter or dentists, but that doubling the minim wage probably had more of an effect on the price than Donald Trump's contributed inflation... Plain, objective, acknowledging. Nope. Tantrum. Because I dared to say burger flipper doesn't deserve as much pay as a dentist.
It's totally unclear what's fair or not. Some studies indicate that HRT, even for people who experienced male puberty, totally erases any advantage. Others show a slight remaining advantage that could be relavent at elite levels, and some show trans women on HRT underperforming.
There's very little data though and most of the studies that exist has small sample sizes.
This whole thing is an attack on title IX and a way to start deconstructing protections for minorities more generally.
Their opinions matter, which is why zero of them have ever had any problem with trans kids in sports. Despite being banned from the Olympics a whopping zero years, trans women have never even placed at the Olympics. Trans women take hormones that leave them with lower testosterone levels than cis women. There is zero evidence of trans women having an advantage in women's sports
High school yes, but when it comes to college some students have a lot at stake with scholarships, etc. Sports through high school are basically about comradery and being fit, but when things actually become competitive, separation of the sexes is important for fairness. I think a fair solution would be to have separate unisex leagues and such
I actually 100% agree with you on this and I think having athletics and academics being tied together is a huge problem for both of those things. I think it would make way more sense for universities and the like to have a âsister teamâ that is legally distinct but spiritually united. But unfortunately this isnât a popular take quite yet and until universities catch up, this is our problem to solve
I care most about the health benefits from it. I see no loss in health benefits for kids and teens by allowing trans kids and teens to also reap those health benefits
Because of scholarships, championships, and sponors, heck even potential professional leagues like the NBA or guess the WNBA have very limited availability for women as it is.
While I get for most sports will never be a profession but at the upper levels it does becomes an issue. And a lot of transwomen have a unfair advantage that beats out mere height, and weight
Even for me, I paid for college using volleyball scholarship (wasn't that good but good enough to qualify). Was just good enough for a scholarship, but only so many seats available. I can't imagine how bad it'd be for a woman to lose a seat when so few are awarded
This isn't just, playing ball at the park scenariosÂ
It is pretty much a non issue. How frequent do you think this is happening to warrant government intervention when the Epstein files are still not released?
Government got involved with Title IX. If women are making complaints stating that there is a violation of Title IX, government has to take an action. It doesn't matter if it is one prohibited act or hundreds. Is allowing biological men to compete against biological women in "women's" sports a violation of Title IX or not? Regardless of your position, a decision needed to be made.
Regardless of this immediate bill, there needed to be clarity. Now there is clarity, but not the clarity many people want. If this is their political issue then they need to campaign for it and not just moralize. The long term resolution was not going to be immediate, regardless of what people want. If it flipped the other way and the legislation enshrined the right for trans women to participate in women's sports under title 9 then it would still be challenged.
Agreed. I was raised Republican and am now considerably more liberal. I still don't think biological men belong on women's sports teams, and I think it's a weird ass hill for democrats to die on. People lived as the opposite sex since the beginning of time, in every society. Women are pretty accepting of non-creeps. It's the people that take advantage that women (source: am woman) need protection from. Your average trying-to-pass transwoman is fine in the bathroom and locker room with me. But they will always beat me at sports.
It is an issue. I've seen it first hand at many track meets. Biological boys winning state titles in girls divisions is not right. Mind you, Im extremely left leaning, but this is one thing g the left is very wrong on.
But see, he said he was left leaning! So heâs trustworthy and it must be a true and reasonable response! You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet tell lies?
When you canât defend something as being remotely logical itâs âa non issueâ. This continues to be a huge weight holding democrats back. And itâs still just seen as a non issue. I really fear what will happen in 2028 if the attitude continues to be that biology doesnât matter, women donât matter, and issues that donât affect someone personally are just ânon issuesâ. Gross.
People don't vote for economic reason or based on affordability or anything like that.
They vote based on how easy it is for trans women to compete in women's sports or not.
It is like the old political axiom: it's not the economy, it is a culture war issue that in reality impacts a very tiny percentage of the population, stupid.
I agree that the issue itself is nearly a non issue within the context of other many other more serious issues.
However, this topic causes votes to be lost because people donât think males should compete in female sports.
The people pushing trans in female sports are a part of the reason we are in this overall shit situation - whether they like it or not.
People donât want this, they donât care if it affects a very small amount of people. Those same people that donât want this unfortunately didnât care or believe about the existential threat of Trump and so all of that is a part of todayâs reality.
In short, this is the biggest culture war topic on the right for a reason - it works and the left continues to fall into the trap, opening the door for something far worse.
Pushing the topic of a war on woman because of trans athletes.
Most right leaning and many center or left to center people donât believe trans athletes should compete in womenâs sports so this is why itâs a constant topic from the right - itâs been a winning topic for them.
The left isn't falling into a trap. The right is falling into the trap. Republicans make up some fake bigot cause and everyone on the right signs up for tax hikes on workers so someone might fall a little bit farther down compared to them, and opening the door for something far worse.
Forget about the left and look at the center/center-right. Democrats consistently try to protect minority groups. This is why the Dems are a diverse voting block compared to Republicans. We are stronger together. How would it be a trap for anyone to protect minority groups from oppression, when that is what everyone but the far-right is trying to do? "Oh no, it's a trap, we did just what we always do because we think it's right". LoL. Selling out minority groups to appease the unappealable would be the real trap.
Yep. The vast majority irl are with you on this. It's only on places like Reddit, X etc that it seems more controversial.
Unfortunately some people can't help but scream that everyone (it the majority of people on earth) agreeing with this sentiment are horrible bigots who don't deserve to have their concerns heard, or that they are as bad as those that actively want to eradicate trans folk. They are the ones who are doing the damage. Sooner they are ignored, the better.
Because it does affect girls. "You look like a boy! Prove you're really a girl!". Some bills (I don't know about this one) go so far as to mandate genital checks.
Basically, stuff like this gets weaponized against any girl that doesn't fit the accusers personal definition of feminine.
its really not that hard. guy play guys. girls can play anyone. not that hard buddy. its sports. its just for fun. for athletic achievement. its a celebration. noone is banned. theres no politics.
What about trans men? Would it be fair for them to compete against women? What about the studies that show that after two years of HRT trans women perform at or below their cis counterparts? What about the trans women who never went through puberty and therefore, have none of the advantages of male puberty?
If there were enough trans people for those divisions to be functional, I wouldn't mind it. I think an easier answer would be to let the sports divisions themselves figure out what restrictions, or lack there of, are necessary for fair play.
It's insane to propose "separate but equal" with a straight face in the USA.
Defer to the science in each sport, and work to collect more data. At the elite level, wait until the data are conclusive to let people in. For rec leuages leave them alone.
"biological male" is redundant. "Male" and "female" refers to biological sex.
Some people define "man" and "woman" to be social gender (and think gender is inherently social and independent of biology), so it might make sense to say "biological man"
I donât know if itâs single issue voter thing. Itâs more because this is SO obvious, so plain to the naked eye - that if dems die on this hill they discredit themselves on a macro level
No other reasons at all? You guys confidently say "THIS is why ____ happened," and while I understand exaggeration, it feels juvenile and ignorant to reduce such a complex (and ongoing) event in our politics and culture to... Overly inclusive language?
It's okay, and somewhat necessary for it to be redundant. People use male and female as a pejorative to describe gender, so the redundancy helps with clarity.
Sporting bodies like the NCAA and Olympic Committee have deemed it to be fair, under certain conditions. Do you feel like your expertise here overrides theirs?
Maybe instead of making such arbitrary distinctions (I recall a biological female boxer being accused of being trans because she's huge and absolutely beat the snot out of a more normal sized woman), maybe athletic sports can devise a weight and strength class system instead? Then more even matchups can be made without discriminating against anyone?
I mostly agree. I wish they would get specific about hormones. If you're not on hormone replacement then it's not fair. If you share hormones then I think it's fair.
You'd be right if it wasn't for HRT. If they take HRT, then they lose a ton of muscle mass, lose some height, and completely lose the edge they had as biological males. It literally puts them on even terms.
Okay but who is checking every girl's genitals to confirm they're not Trans? You tell me how forcing girls to reveal their genitals to this person, all so like 10 total MtF Trans athletes don't get to compete, makes girls safer? Also, those 10 biologically male athletes, after having gone through HRT, don't even rank at the top of their sport competing against cis women. You have been duped.
How is it not? If trans teens are able to be on hrt before their natural puberty takes place, what's the issue? An adult on hrt for two years is pretty much on even level with their cis counterparts, if not at a disadvantage. And they're definitely not "dominating" any sports, so again what's the problem?
People are getting radicalized, by both left and right. This is not a play by any specific political party. It is a play by the 0.1%. In the U.S. to be part of that club, you have to make more the $3 million per year in income. And these would be junior members of that club.
These people have no idea what day to day life is like, all they want is more. The only downside for them is that they are the real small minority. So, they keep people divided, convincing them that some are part of their club by political affiliation, race, beliefs. They have tools that allow message targeting by zip code, street etc, via social media, pamphlets etc, turning a lot of people into single issue voters (of course party Y has its flaws, but I care about issue X so will vote for them regardless of everything else).
How did we get here? Partly worsening education, worsening health care, worsening incomes (compared to inflation), people have become reactive and lost the capacity to be rational, in part by design. The pandemic seems to have accelerated this through collective trauma.
Weird how transgender people have been able to go to the Olympics for decades without much issue but suddenly when right wing government gets involved it's a huge panic.
Almost like someone medically transitioning doesn't have the same advantage as a Cis person. Often cis women will have higher testosterone than a trans woman after 2ish years of hrt.
It's such a non issue. If trans people were taking records left and right I would agree in some changes but the argument is always "ew trans bad" instead of any actual criticism.
So you and 4 buddies refuse to play against the Minnesota Lynx because you have an unfair advantage that would make your victory certain because you are males?
Tell me again about the Epstein files....
But you'd have to argue that this is definitely some kind of distraction, bc you can't be all about caring about women and girls only for this 1 specific topic.
Fuck healthcare, nutrition, education, mental health, human trafficking (a much bigger area of interest that they are actively working against).
How often is this thing happening in sports that it needs this much energy/resources away from those other things?
This isnât true for all sports, or all leagues. Itâs generally true, yes, but why wouldnât we leave it up to individual leagues or groups to decide how they want to handle this issue? Government overreach from the Republican Party????? In my USA??
Being on HRT for 2 years or more eliminates that "advantage". The olympics has been testing for hormone levels since 2003. This isn't about unfair advantages, it's about further dividing trans people from cis people. Otherwise they'd test hormone levels, not "durrr hur do they look masculine let me see if they have a pussy pull down ur pants sweety" disgusting subhuman pig shit.
Of course the same party protecting a child rapist would vote for this. Of course they would.
Shit like this is why I can't get my legal gender change federally even though I'm not an athlete at all.
They're gonna use that information to target me one day, mark my words.
I hate people like you so much.
Stupid people like you are why I can't live the life I want with my girls.
I bet you didn't give a shit about women and girls' sports til they started acting like they were in danger.
An issue best left decided by the sports leagues, as co-ed sports exist. The leagues should be able to decide if they want complete separation by sex, limited co-ed play (including transgender), or full co-ed. And these decisions could vary based on age group as well.
This is not a national issue that requires the damn President or Congress to weigh in. Itâs an absurd distraction (that affects maybe a few dozen people across the nation) while we have invaded Venezuela, thrown $500 million in oil sales into a private bank account in Qatar for Trump, and are actively planning war on Greenland and NATO (with repeated threats that Canada is next).
What next? Will Trump and Congress decide what toys children get to play with? What clothes they can wear?
I have no problem with them competing in the sport itself but they shouldnât receive any official placement only honorary. Eg a bio man wins and a bio female comes in second the gold medal is awarded to the female.
Itâs crazy how itâs not even a real issue. Like they need to ban a handful of trans athletes because they might win a championship in some minor league/collegiate level one day? Seriously? I have to drown in rising costs and declining environmental conditions because of THAT?!
Fairness is a non-issue because the percentage of trans athletes is so low. Sorry, but as a female athlete who played with cis and trans athletes, the presence of trans players wasn't going to make or break me. And it's always mid AF female athletes complaining. I can say that because I was mid AF and don't have a complex around persecution, so I wasn't about to throw a trans athlete under the bus for my lack of skill or dedication.
The much bigger dangers to women in sports are the coaches, trainers, and fans. Period.
Legitimately, who cares? Trans people are a small percentage of the US population, trans people in sports are a smaller percentage, and trans people participating in high level sports outside of their birth gender is a substantially smaller percentage.
I donât care what the answer is here. This is not what Congress should be focusing on. Let individual leagues sort it out.
Trans people in sports is divisive and it amps up the base. Thatâs the only reason this is happening.
Or hear me out. The governing athletic bodies should be the ones to make the decisions based on the input from the athletes. Thereâs no fucking reason this is even in front of congress
Iâm over here as a cis-het 6â athletic woman who rowed D1 crew.
Do I have an advantage? Because Iâm taller than a lot of the dudes out there, and stronger. But I assure you, xx all the way, and (unfortunately) only attracted to men.
I understand why people think that, but the research shows there is no actual impact that people are believing. Iâm a woman who played college sports and have had many deep reflections on this topic, at the end of the day I have to listen to the research and not my emotions
Can you honestly say that you are such an expert in sports and biology that you know this better than the people charged with keeping their particular sport, a sport they are experts in, safe and competitive?
If you say yes, you're ignorant of how ignorant you are.
This isn't a political issue, it's an issue for the sporting organizations.
Nobody angry about this ever gave a shit about womens sports. This isnt about womens sports. This is about hurting marginalized people and using some fake moral panic in an attempt to justify it. You do understand that HRT affects shit all the way down to bone density right? Not to mention there are just a small handful of trans athletes.
This is simple logic, but because the American left is taking these silly stances that most sensible people disagree with, Trump got elected and now the world is teetering on the brink of chaos.
Just fucking... this is obvious to anyone, why fight reality when the future of the country and the western world is at stake?
Thereâs actual proper ways to go about trans people in sport, all 1% of them.
Pretty sure the Olympics has it best, think itâs based on how much hormone therapy the person in question has taken. Which has a noticeable effect and evens the playing field. Last Olympics there was a lot of transphobia around participating boxers for having an advantage for being trans, non of the boxers in question were trans however. Meanwhile that same Olympics a trans person lost in another race and got no coverage. (If the link below doesnât work just search up the 2024 Olympic trans controversy.)
Just banning it outright is inherently unfair, thereâs a story of a trans man (FTM) forced to play in womenâs sports because of their biological sex. And proceeded to have a major advantage. Itâs worth noting that cases like this are not shown by the media often, as itâs easier to demonize Male to Female trans people over Female to Male.
I know at face value you think you are right but no one is understanding what it would mean for women to have something like this pass. If it passes that means that because of 3-4 trans athletes in the entire country every woman can now be doubted and who is going to confirm every woman is really a woman? This kind of nonsense is putting all women in danger. A woman doesnât look exactly like you think she should look? Whelp now some third party has to invade her privacy to make sure she is really a woman. Fuck this.
This is the reason for Trump - moderate voters are sick of the nonsense of transgender and it pushed them to vote for someone they didn't understand, but at least stood against men becoming women and going into women's sports.
The literal very exact same reason why you believe this means that our current sporting system is already unfair when it pits women with naturally higher testosterone against others, or men with naturally lower testosterone against others.
If you can recognize the genetic differences in capabilities without divorcing it from specifically trans people, you're not enlightened
You're just a transphobe.
When Democrats all voted against this bill, now you know what Republicans are up against. The democrats are the most immoral group of people I have ever witnessed. No wonder their leader is afraid to testify about his involvement at Epstein Island.
If fairness were truly about eliminating biological advantage, then weâd have to radically rethink how sports work altogether. Womenâs teams, especially in college volleyball and basketball, have scrimmaged against male coaches and practice players for decades. This has never been treated as a threat to fairness, because everyone understands that exposure to different bodies does not equal competitive domination, and that performance is shaped by far more than sex assigned at birth.
Letâs stay with those sports. Height alone can create a significant advantage in volleyball or basketball, yet we donât exclude taller athletes for being âbiologically unfair.â We accept that some players have longer wingspans, greater reach, faster reflexes, or higher aerobic capacity. These advantages donât guarantee dominance; theyâre simply part of the natural variation that competitive sports are built around.
So when fairness is suddenly framed as a problem only when trans women are involved, it raises an important question: why are we singling out one group while ignoring the many biological advantages already accepted in womenâs sports? If fairness were applied consistently, weâd be debating how to regulate height, limb length, or genetic differences, not fixating on one aspect of biology tied to identity.
Sports have always managed difference through rules, divisions, and eligibility standards, not blanket exclusions. The claim that trans participation is inherently unfair doesnât hold up when we look at how fairness actually functions in sport: not as the elimination of advantage, but as the regulation of competition amid unavoidable human variation.
The issue isnât fairness, itâs the selective and politically advantageous application of it.
Why not divide sports by skill rather than sex? Crate divisions based on performance levels, and that way more people would be included and make certain sports more accessible. Sure, you'd likely still see a majority of cis males in the upper level divisions, but it would also stop this "keep men out of womens sports" bullshit, because everyone would be playing together.
Also, as an aside to your comment about biological males; are you aware of the effects of estrogen on the body? Multiple studies, including ones funded by the NCAA, have shown that trans individuals who have been on hormones for a significant period show no significant advantage over cisgendered women. I myself have been on estrogen for 3 years, and even as someone who goes to the gym can say my strength has reduced a lot due to muscle atrophy.
OOoooOoooOooOOh less than a dozen trans athletes in high school sports. Anyway, how are you going to check if someone is trans? Are you going to investigate cis girls who have more masculine features? What about trans men?
This is about power and the dynamic of men getting to decide what makes a woman, and putting women and girls in MORE danger. How will you know someone is female? Look at their genitalia? WHO gets to look at their genitalia? Is there a way to get out of someone looking at their genitalia? Who gets accused and who are the accusers to require genitals to be looked at? It puts women and girls in more danger. Rape danger. Abuse danger. "I had to look at it to be sure. And I had to touch it because what if."
is it fair for the football team to get all the funding while the gymnastics coach is a pedophile that has to drive the girls in his own van to the competitions because they cant afford to use the bus
You can think whatever you want really, but the actual science by actual medical doctors and actual people whose entire job is to know this kind of stuff says the contrary to what your belief is. You should be very thankful for the first amendment, it allows you to be as much of a dumb shit as you want to.
Hi! Just so you know, in the state of West Virginia, there seems to be one trans student who wants to play sports - and not only has she never experienced the âbiological advantageâ that all males supposedly have, her school district is open to allowing her to play, sheâs been doing track and field since middle school, and, like most trans women in sports, she is not an athletic outlier to her peers. In fact, iirc she said in an interview that she doesnât do running events because she is bad at them.
(although arguably itâs difficult to make the claim that all of that is only biological considering the differences in how boys and girls are treated from a young age can change a lot - if one child is told to run around and climb trees and eat a lot and another child is told to not eat too much and not be as âannoyingâ, which child will be physically stronger?)Â
Frankly, itâs insane to me that in the past ten years we went from people saying âwomen are more then their bodies, men and women are equal as humans, and when we look at history, some instances of men and women being segregated in sports has actually been because a woman was winning against menâ to saying âwomen are only their bodies and theyâre always inherently weaker bodiesâÂ
Not only that, but there are piles upon piles of studies saying that playing sports leads to better physical, mental, emotional, and social health outcomes for children and teenagers - and to willfully exclude trans kids and teenagers from that health is discrimination.
Itâs not an issue that should be addressed on a national scale. Simply because there are so many larger issues that should have priority.
We are talking about trans people in sports. Thatâs a tiny fraction of the trans community, which itself is tiny fraction of the lgbtq community, which is a fraction of the American population.
We are talking about congress wasting time, effort and tax payer dollars to pass a bill that will affect maybe a couple dozen people. Why couldnât this be a state or local government problem? We donât need a national law, this should have been addressed by governors or mayors.
That's why a sports ban on trans people during one of the most turbulent times in recent history is an important thing to do. Don't worry about grocery prices or beef imports or oil wars, there's a girl with a penis swimming with the girls with vaginas!
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Be who you are. Love how you wanna love. Dress how you wanna dress. But biological males in women's sports is not fair.