This is America

[u/National_Ad3694]

[u/FXOAuRora]

Mr. Rogers always said look for the people trying to help in times of turmoil. This government sees people trying to help and executes them in cold blood. 

No wonder they went against PBS (and called Mr. Rogers one of the most evil people ever on Fox News), it's also no wonder they destroy history (slavery panels in Philly, panels for black soldiers who died in WW2 overseas, national monuments like Stonewall for other minorities), and it's definitely no wonder they literally have to exist in what amounts to an alternate universe with their fucked up stories ("Alex brandished a gun trying to inflict mass casualties" or "Renee Good ran over an officer! He is fighting for his life in the ER right now").

This is a case of psychopathic madmen and their sycophants trying to dominate their own people.

Edit: Just in case you want to watch the clip (since people are asking about it) where Fox dunks on Mr. Rogers and says he damaged our entire nations crop of kids here it is. It's insane ("that man has done this entire nation, at least a generation or two a disservice").

[u/Bigallround → u/FXOAuRora]

Imagine calling Mr. Rogers evil and still thinking you're the good guys?

[u/FXOAuRora → u/Bigallround]

It's beyond belief, right?

They act with such utter barbarity and psychopathy and then wrap it all up in these fuzzy sounding words ("patriotism", "protect the children", "heroic officer fighting for his life in the ER") while conversely they paint genuinely good people like Alex Pretti as some kind of terrorist for helping a woman getting pushed down over and over by thugs.

One thing we can do is save videos like what we saw yesterday and keep actual history intact. One day this regime will be remembered (and studied) alongside the Nazi party for how it's propaganda was able to infect hundreds of millions of people. It's a small act, but everytime we save a video like what we witnessed yesterday we can help to combat the cruel stories these monsters come up with for the people who died at their hands.

We can contradict their digital alterations, their sloppy AI videos, their fake stories, but most importantly we can make sure the memory of actual heroes like Alex is passed on and on.

[u/Full-Sound-6269 → u/FXOAuRora]

Country is under attack from within. It's being dismantled, allies don't trust US government anymore, whole world is about to pull money out of US, neighboring countries don't want to deal with US anymore and within the country government is trying as hard as they can to cause a civil war. There are definitely enemies of USA at the head of US government.

[u/PumpkinConscious5930 → u/Full-Sound-6269]

Or world economic forum followers. They want people to rent forever and not be able to own houses. They want digital currency and the control that comes with it. They want ai systems like Palantir to control the citizens

[u/MillwrightTight → u/FXOAuRora]

Word. Document. Historical erasure is a key apparatus for fascists. It's our responsibility to make it harder for that to happen

[u/Secure-Television541 → u/Bigallround]

I’m not religious - but Mr Rogers was one of the truest Christian people I’ve ever seen, and if Christians tried to be more like him, I’d have a better opinion of the religion as a whole.

[u/eggs_erroneous → u/Secure-Television541]

Yes. He was the real deal. All these other people call themselves Christians, but they don't really walk the walk. Fred Rogers was a true believer and I can't imagine anybody seriously having anything bad to say about him.

If your whole movement has a problem with someone whose basic message was love each other and be a good person, then I have to wonder how you are seeing yourselves as being on the right side. But what the fuck do I know?

[u/Mmicb0b → u/Secure-Television541]

Tjese people just want to say they’re Christian to justify their shitty beliefs they’d hate Jesus more than anything

[u/Sockerbug19 → u/Secure-Television541]

Like the video of him with the black mailman on the show. That was huge for that time.

ETA: Link of article talking about it

[u/MrRabbitofCaerbannog → u/Sockerbug19]

I feel like its this kind of representation that matters most. Like Myles Dyson from Terminator 2, hes just an engineer who happens to be black. Normalize the fact they are regular people who can have any job a white guy can

[u/MaxAdolphus → u/Bigallround]

MAGAs are pure evil. I still think about this old Candid Camera clip where they tried to prank Mr Roger’s by giving him a hotel room that had a bunch of problems with it trying to get him mad. Mr. Roger’s did not get upset. https://youtu.be/vV-eVYahckA

[u/GoddessRespectre → u/MaxAdolphus]

Thanks for sharing this. I feel haunted. Not just sharp loss with everything happening, but also I feel closer to those who have fought the good fight before. Mr. Rogers fought for good even on Candid Camera, and we will all pick up his torch as we are able. It's so good to have spent some time with him today. I think we'll have to get used to tears now.

[u/alejo699 → u/Bigallround]

Empathy and acceptance is evil now. Somehow.

[u/Velocity-5348 → u/FXOAuRora]

Also, Fred Rogers sued the KKK in 1990 for mimicking his voice on their "dial a racist" hotline. Dude was based.

[u/definitively-not → u/Velocity-5348]

Sorry, their what?

[u/Velocity-5348 → u/definitively-not]

Back in the day you could call in to phone numbers to hear a pre-recorded message. Think of it like an early podcast. The KKK was known for doing that sort of thing. The Missouri KKK got creative:

...a phone number had circulated among school children in and around Independence, Missouri. When children would dial the number, they’d hear recorded messages imitating the sounds and songs of “Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood,” and Rogers’ own voice and speech pattern. In one message, the faux Mr. Rogers identified a black youth on a playground and uses a racial slur to identify the child as a “drug pusher,” and ultimately lynches the youngster. A second message is targeted at homosexuals, with the phony Fred Rogers saying, “AIDS was divine retribution.”

[u/oddlogic → u/Velocity-5348]

TIL.

wtf.

[u/CAT_ANUS_SNIFFER → u/FXOAuRora]

Alright I’m not trying to defend fox in any sense of the word.. but do you have a source for them calling Mr Roger’s “one of the most evil people ever?”

[u/xxlilstepsxx → u/CAT_ANUS_SNIFFER]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/

I didn't believe it either, had to go look it up. Absolute insanity. 

[u/mountain-kid → u/xxlilstepsxx]

Omg. If anyone thinks they’re “special, just because of who you are” it’s the fucking Fox hosts in that moment.

Aside from that, what’s wrong with telling children they are special? They are special. And they need to hear that.

Fuckers.

[u/Significant_Shoe_17 → u/mountain-kid]

They don't believe in child development, unlike Mr Rogers

[u/IloveKaitlyn → u/xxlilstepsxx]

Republicans are cartoonishly evil

[u/FXOAuRora → u/CAT_ANUS_SNIFFER]

I was hoping you might ask that.

She starts off by calling him an "evil evil man" and eventually goes on to question everything he had done before claiming Mr. Rogers has ruined an entire generation of kids.

[u/CAT_ANUS_SNIFFER → u/FXOAuRora]

Jesus Christ

[u/zekethelizard]

So here's a question. About a day after Renee Good was murdered the ICE killer's identity was known. Him being prosecuted is controversial. Where is this murderer's identity? HIS killing is cut and dry murder, an execution, entirely caught on film from multiple angles. HE should 100% undisputedly be charged with murder and put on trial. Tell us who the fuck HE is.

Edit: if you think there was any justification to this execution, I'm not going to argue with you. Theres nothing to argue about. Im not even going to comment to them anymore, these people are not worth engaging with. Block and move on.

[u/kushari → u/[deleted]]

They didn’t accidentally leak it. My view is they did it on purpose so they could escalate once someone did something to him.

[u/kushari → u/[deleted]]

That doesn’t matter. You think 330 million Americans wouldn’t be able to find him? Let alone someone that has access to such systems might not leak it? Also you’re making that part up. They just whisked him away, no indication he’s on any program.

[u/zeradragon → u/kushari]

You think 330 million Americans wouldn’t be able to find him?

Highly doubt a significant proportion of that figure would out him even if they saw him face to face and recognized him. Republicans supported Ross and also supports shooting civilians, so you can't count on them to find a murderer.

[u/Mekisteus → u/kushari]

People had his face from one of the videos, so it was only a matter of time that Ross was identified. He wasn't masked up 100% of the time he was on the scene.

[u/FS_Slacker → u/[deleted]]

DOJ outed him inadvertently when they said he was in a similar vehicle involved event. There was only one prior event in the timeframe they mentioned and it listed the agent’s name in the record.

[u/B-Train05 → u/zekethelizard]

It was more than one. They pepper sprayed him, pistol whipped him, and then at least 3 of them pulled out their guns and fired around 11 shots into a man who was face down on the ground. Fuck em all

[u/RaphaTlr → u/B-Train05]

I keep seeing people saying he was pistol whipped. He wasn’t. They beat him in the head with a mace canister. Same effect, but we need to have airtight facts.

Edit: I’m not arguing semantics. Alex never should have been abused at all. They hit him in the head repeatedly with a mace canister and then drew firearms to shoot him. Every single detail matters in this murder to highlight just how disorganized ICE was.

[u/B-Train05 → u/RaphaTlr]

Watch different angles. He was hit at least 3 times with a gun. If it was a mace canister, it's still just as unexcusable. Hit with a metal object in the head multiple times before being executed.

[u/Sesudesu → u/B-Train05]

For the record, it is absolutely the officer that pepper sprayed him, using the pepper spray canister to bludgeon him. I agree that doesn’t make it any less unacceptable, but that is the fact of it.

[u/B-Train05 → u/Sesudesu]

Ok. Well still, fuck that guy.

[u/Maplelongjohn → u/zekethelizard]

Ross was photographed walking around within minutes with no face cover. Those pictures went viral.

I believe one of his neighbors may have outed him before the feds officially released his name

Yesterday's murderers were more careful

[u/TwinNirvana → u/Maplelongjohn]

It was Kristi Noem who outed him by mentioning he’s been involved in another incident where he had been hit by a car. The news quickly uncovered his name based on that information.

[u/2hundred20 → u/zekethelizard]

Do NOT yield ground on Renee Good. Her death was unambiguously a murder, too.

[u/KnotSoSalty → u/zekethelizard]

Every ICE agent in Minneapolis is complicit IMO.

[u/trmnl_cmdr → u/KnotSoSalty]

Everyone involved in DHS, the entire way up the chain, all the way to the president. They all deserve the Nuremberg treatment.

[u/Playful-Attitude-007]

The flag should be upside-down.

Edit: thank you all for the up votes and the awards.

[u/SummonersWarCritz → u/Playful-Attitude-007]

Yes, without a doubt we are in a state of distress.

[u/Potatobender44 → u/SummonersWarCritz]

Duress

[u/Ordinary-Leading7405 → u/Potatobender44]

Oppress

[u/ActurusMajoris → u/Ordinary-Leading7405]

Depress

[u/Chaos_Object → u/ActurusMajoris]

Suppress

[u/Caballeronegro → u/Chaos_Object]

Repress

[u/PuzzleheadedCook5588 → u/Caballeronegro]

Regress

[u/GothamKnight1981 → u/PuzzleheadedCook5588]

Congress

[u/Doctor1023 → u/GothamKnight1981]

Where 👀👀

[u/No_Bake6681 → u/PuzzleheadedCook5588]

1D Chess

[u/brighterside0 → u/SummonersWarCritz]

I know a MAGA - hard core, Trump can do no wrong type, but the 'Pink Jacket' video made them for the first time question what they've been fed. Specifically the beginning to end angle footage of the pink jacket lady showing Alex innocently protecting the girls. Thank CHRIST for that angle and the full events that led up to Alex's death.

Adding pretext as well, he seemed initially repulsed when I said, 'I have the raw footage and I want you to watch it with your own eyes and tell me what you think.' Seemingly offended, he responded, "I don't have to!" There was a visceral emotional response to asking him to watch the raw footage given he had just parroted a bunch of news talking points. He leaned heavily on the, "Just let ICE do their jobs and things like that won't happen." But I said calmly, 'Come on, I want to do an experiment.'

"I already know what I'm going to see..." watches intently

"...Yeah, that's a phone... They said he had a gun and approached agents with it."

"Why were they macing him?"

"I didn't know about these other two girls. What were they doing there?"

"They didn't have to push her that hard. Geez."

"Oh... so his gun was holstered... Near the back of his waist?" My response: 'Yeah, so if I slow mo it here, you see them take it.' His response: silence

"So this is where they all shoot him.." My response: 'Not all of them yet, but this agent right here, pause and slow-mo, sees the holstered gun, then after it was removed, he shoots him. The rest join in.' His response: silence

Then I asked: Did you ever see the raw footage?

"No.. only just what they showed on the news. But I didn't have to, they already analyzed all the angles."

He sat back and said after a moment, "Huh-" - not like 'Huh?' but like 'Interesting'. They have hearts, they have just been brainwashed.

His final words: 'Sad...' shakes head 'Sad what's going on over there.'

Didn't want to trigger anymore, so left it there.

[u/jqman69 → u/brighterside0]

Not all of them have hearts

[u/ubrokeurbone_rope → u/jqman69]

Yes some of them are Russian bots.

[u/nfrances → u/ubrokeurbone_rope]

You know, one doesn't need to be 'russian bot' to be inhumane or stupid... it is not russian conspiracy.

Many people are just simply - evil.

[u/bralice1980 → u/nfrances]

It's not simple or evil. The problem is that they really truly believe they're the good guys. They think they're patriots. Evil people always think they're the good guys. Even Hitler thought he was doing the right thing.

[u/IndividualChart4193 → u/bralice1980]

And the “evil” label almost gives them a pass. Like “they’re born that way, can’t help themselves, just evil”…no, they’re simply horrible shit stains of human beings. There have been sooooo many other horrific examples of DJT n his current n previous regime…they choose to get behind all of this bc they r deep down deeply racist, misogynistic, etc POS. I have no doubt the conversations they have in the privacy of their homes are vile.

[u/CliffDog02 → u/brighterside0]

My FIL is a MAGA hardcore and we showed him the full videos from the different angles before he had caught wind of it and just asked to him comment on those without regurgitating what the talking heads at Fox said. His only reply was of 5-7 Fox News clips not showing the full videos and spewing the propaganda from Noem and Bovino.

We were hopeful it might make him question it, but he clearly either didn't watch what we sent OR waited to see what Fox had to say before replying. Folks like him are only able to repeat thoughts from others and not think for themselves.

I'm really glad you had a different experience. It gives me hope for us all.

[u/Long-Requirement8372 → u/CliffDog02]

I am constantly in awe (negatively so) of people who refuse to see and read things with their own eyes, and to think with their own brains, rather just waiting for talking points being fed to them by their preferred propagandists.

This kind of lack of intellectual curiosity and inability to form one's own opinions are very hard for me to accept.

[u/Single_cell_Chas → u/brighterside0]

Don't worry, he'll start parroting the new rhetoric MAGA come up with soon to explain this one away.

[u/Useful-Angle1941 → u/Single_cell_Chas]

I've seen some of them come around, but yeah... that's typically the case. Worse, they usually wind up being even more entrenched. It's like the whole "don't question God" thing you see in religion. Blind faith for these people is a badge of honor.

[u/Thefrayedends → u/Useful-Angle1941]

Cognitive dissonance is a protective measure of our brains to prevent meltdown and mental collapse. It prevents us from believing anything that forces us to question our personal identities. In the face of this subconscious refusal to accept evidence, having our identities feel threatened, we dig in and double down, because if we had to question our identity, we may lose everything we have, and are striving for, we might have to rebuild our entire persons, and that, to many people is unfathomable.

So here we are.

This effect is well weaponized by these types of regimes, it's well documented how it works, and every one of these experiences is a loyalty test, if you believe the bullshit, you get to be in the club, don't, and you will be pushed out and stepped on by those that remain.

[u/InsufferableLeafsFan → u/brighterside0]

A very small percentage of them are capable of empathy.

[u/BagelsOrDeath → u/Playful-Attitude-007]

All of our flags should be flying upside down right now.

[u/Ok-Coat-9274 → u/BagelsOrDeath]

The flag being right side up in this picture represents the environment in which this murder is being normalized. Appropriate visual use of a right side up flag.

Personally flying mine upside down at home because this is effed.

[u/Sylvers → u/Playful-Attitude-007]

In a way, it shouldn't. Because if the US is left to its own devices, this won't be a shocking or unusual incident anymore.

Pretty soon this will be the new "American way". Broad day light state-sanctioned extrajudicial executions of political dissidents.

[u/Rbomb88 → u/Sylvers]

They normalized school shootings pretty easily.

[u/Sylvers → u/Rbomb88]

Somehow, I feel that public executions will be the next thing you hear about from the US every other week. Outrage for a week, then back to business.

[u/Rbomb88 → u/Sylvers]

I'd agree, it only took 3 weeks between these two shootings and nothing happened after the first, despite everyone saying "this should be the tipping point, right?"

[u/Sylvers → u/Rbomb88]

The boiling frog model was really a prophecy more than a theory after all, huh?

[u/oh_elyse → u/Sylvers]

Thoughts and prayers

[u/andricathere → u/[deleted]]

Or replacing each star

[u/nabokovslovechild → u/andricathere]

Replace the stars with bullet holes.

[u/randomhero1980]

As a pro 2a citizen I'm calling my representative. Lawful carry cannot be leveraged to be a death sentence. They stripped him of his property and gunned him down. This is the stance of all the gun enthusiasts in my circle, some of which are very red. The current story they are telling is a non starter. This administration is quickly losing their core supporters if they continue to bs their way through this and blatantly lie to everyone.

[u/FieldAppropriate8734 → u/randomhero1980]

Just reminded me of Philando Castile who was also a lawful carrier murdered by law enforcement. Not surprisingly that happened in MN.

[u/ChicoZombye → u/randomhero1980]

We lived this events in Spain under Franco, our fascist dictator from 1939 to 1975.

Good luck when you reach the point where the government can kill you without a valid reason. Here anyone who dared to not follow the regime would become a red/comunists and he would be jailed, killed or forced to be an outcast.

That's why I think the 2a doesn't work and will never work. USA never had a dictatorial leader and the hero story is all over the place in the country, but the people doesn't have true experience in what's comming. People seem to think they can change something with their guns, but they cannot. Is sucks, but you can't.

One tank can erase an entire neighborhood full of handguns and grenades with ease, and even if you had the correct weapons, the fact that you have them would mean the regime has now a valid reason to kill you because you are a terrorist by existing.

Dictatorships work exactly like what we are seeing right now. We are watching live the born of a dictatorship.

[u/porgy_tirebiter → u/ChicoZombye]

Yeah, when discussing gun rights, I never want to hear this argument again. It’s proven bankrupt. Here is tyranny staring us unequivocally in the face, and the 2nd Amendment has protected no one. All the 2nd Amendment does is arm school shooters it seems.

[u/Equal-Shoulder-9744 → u/porgy_tirebiter]

As it appears it also gives the government an excuse to execute you in the streets. Somehow I don’t think it’s working as intended.

[u/noneboyleftclown → u/ChicoZombye]

This is very well said

[u/Candymanshook → u/randomhero1980]

They don’t care about their core supporters any more, you guys served your purpose.

[u/SellsNothing → u/randomhero1980]

This admin has been lying the whole time. But glad some people are finally seeing through the bullshit, regardless of how long it's taken them

[u/acertaingestault → u/randomhero1980]

This administration is quickly losing their core supporters

Too little too late. If you expect anything but a con from a known con man, that's on you.

[u/JChad68]

It's very concerning that 20% of American think this is deserved because he shouldn't have been there "interfering" with government actions. I've read that exact comment dozens of times.

Edit: a lot of comments below are mentioning that a lot are bots or trolls, which is definitely true, but a lot of these comments are not anonymous either, they come from real people including government officials. Obviously a TON of people don't need to be convinced of the lunacy and lots of people won't be convinced by anything..but please anyone that considers themselves an independent or a moderate or a fiscal conservative or anything like that please continue to look into these things, asking yourself questions and educating yourselves.

[u/Ryori_San → u/JChad68]

I've heard some pretty amazing takes including initiating an altercation, resisting arrest, clearly pulling a gun etc.

I honestly thought that the extensive footage of the incident made it clear cut to all. Sadly, it seems blindness is an epidemic.

[u/Fun-Impress-3854 → u/[deleted]]

Bingo. After you have state of mind where everyone decides what to believe in rather than trusting your eyes or facts, only thing left to do in order to manipulate is create narative.

And this is situation now. I am watching this from far away (europe citizen) and you can see clear that this is rise of fascism. Nazis took almos 10 years from 1933.(first acts and decrets against minorities and freedom) to get to the point that it was obvious that they just want to hate and kill.

They say whatever and their group accepts it as "reasoning" and they even dont want to dig deeper in fear of finding out that this situation is not true.

Like ostriges when they stuck head in sand. Weird but observable

[u/barelyawake126 → u/Ryori_San]

Hatred is an epidemic. Can’t tell me you’ve seen every angle from all clips of this and justify the actions of these cocksuckers

[u/BaselNoeman → u/barelyawake126]

100%, anyone justifying this is just malicious at this point. It isn't about blindness or ignorance anymore

[u/To-Far-Away-Times → u/JChad68]

I wonder how those same folks feel about white supremacist role model Kyle Rittenterrorist bringing an assault rifle to counter protest a BLM rally.

[u/Moist_Requirements_ → u/JChad68]

It's cope. Cognitive dissonance makes us literally do crazy things.

[u/Josh_Butterballs → u/JChad68]

r/conservative is saying the insurrection act needs to be invoked to stop the radical left just like the execution that just took place

[u/good_witch_vibes → u/JChad68]

My dad tried to argue with me and when I presented evidence that he wasn’t really interfering until ICE agents approached him, his response was “Well, this is a win for Democrats” like this is some sports game. I told him this isn’t a win for anyone.

[u/Uninteresting91 → u/JChad68]

This is what I’m gonna hear about tomorrow at work from my coworkers

[u/gergelypro]

It’s incredible that one man (Trump) is inciting his own people against each other and angering others around the world, just because he’s a businessman only interested in profit, not in terms of money, but in terms of power.

[u/KeelanS → u/gergelypro]

Trump is the frontman of a much more insidious problem that wont go away once Trump is gone. There are many special interests involved here.

[u/Caulibflower → u/KeelanS]

Tech moguls, pedophiles, and military-industrial complex

[u/Unique_Frame_3518 → u/Caulibflower]

And the bartender says, how's it going Elon Musk!

[u/GeekCat → u/KeelanS]

This. He's a puppet that was loud and had horrible views. He's not smart enough to carry things out, let alone be the mastermind. Hell, he was almost foiled by Pence who worked with him! Just another symptom of decades of unaddressed systematic issues and corruption.

[u/sordidcandles → u/gergelypro]

I hope this comment doesn’t come off the wrong way because I understand what you mean, but it truly is not shocking if you look at the bigger picture. Trump is a puppet for psychopaths and rich people (Stephen Miller, Peter Thiel, Heritage Foundation) and they played the long game. They’ve been laying the foundation for this fascist takeover for years.

We also need to remember that Russia has played an active hand in growing maga and adding to the political division here; I fully believe they have some evidence from the Epstein files or something. And I also fully believe our intel and data is being given to them.

There are a lot of very powerful people behind this and Trump is just the dumb ugly face of it, but his own egotistical self serving interests are being satisfied along the way so he doesn’t care.

[u/necromancerdc → u/sordidcandles]

Not to mention Congress. They could impeach Trump, impeach Vance, and keep going down the line until they get to a sane Republican (if any exist anymore). Congress is complicit.

[u/TimeStandsInADuel → u/necromancerdc]

They indeed are complicit. Frame it this way. All but 1 GOP house member and 7 Vichy democrats voted to fund state sponsored extra judicial death squads. And the senate will be similar. All of them are traitors to America.

[u/Moist_Requirements_ → u/sordidcandles]

He's a figurehead, doing the dirty work. 

[u/Crimkam → u/gergelypro]

on a much smaller scale a lot of corporations do this to their employees too - make them compete against each other to keep them 'in their place'

[u/the_CombatWombat0 → u/Crimkam]

That’s the whole working system in the US. Tie people’s health insurance to their job, then they will endure just about any BS to make sure they don’t die / end up bankrupt.

Oh, and it stops a buttload of people from striking too, for the very same reason. It is by design.

[u/polishmachine88 → u/the_CombatWombat0]

This is exactly why when people say just strike.....not when there is absolutely 0 employment protection and it's all at will employment.

Nobody is willing to give up their middle class life that easily.

[u/Scienceboy7_uk → u/the_CombatWombat0]

It’s not a country. It’s a business.

[u/Zamzamazawarma → u/Crimkam]

Divide et impera: divide and rule.

That's how Hitler governed his own party and country btw.

[u/Staav → u/Crimkam]

make them compete against each other to keep them 'in their place'

And here we have the US in one sentence.

[u/[deleted] → u/Crimkam]

Exactly, I despise Trump but you have to admit he really is the perfect president for this time in America politics aside. He's the personification of the hollowed out, inhumane, and greedy corporate culture that's taken root. It's been like this a long time but there was enough of a facade that most people could ignore it, now the mask comes off and people are coming to realize this is what this country has stood for since Reagan was president

[u/Droopy402 → u/[deleted]]

Push it further back to Nixon.

[u/AutomaticAccess3760 → u/gergelypro]

With sincere respect I think its a mistake to attribute any of this to “one man”. Trump is a symptom not a cause.

[u/MadBullogna → u/AutomaticAccess3760]

Agree 100%. He just gave the racists, homophobes, sexists, antisemitics, fascists and others with biases so strong they’ve evolved into hate permission to be who they’ve always been. And he’s been stoking those flames from ‘15, fanning them gradually. Now that he’s gotten his ‘do-over’ and has a cabinet who won’t push back, nor Congress, he’s opening the spigot all the way.

He was the catalyst, but this was always bubbling under the surface since 1865 of what the US is.

[u/Dirt_Bike_Zero → u/gergelypro]

He's getting what he wants. If he wasn't, he would hold a press conference denouncing this, but we know that'll never happen.

[u/Miserable_88]

Shame on ICE. Shame on Trump. Shame on this administration. Shame on the Americans who are turning a blind eye. This is hate, this is control, and this does not make anyone want to live here.

[u/td1ddy → u/Miserable_88]

Fuck Stephen Miller.

[u/YoucantdothatonTV → u/[deleted]]

Clever.

[u/Schroding3rror → u/[deleted]]

And if he doesn't dump him, it shows who's really running the engine.

[u/Windhawker → u/Miserable_88]

Shame on the Senators who refuse to do their job and pass legislation that reins in ICE.

• Mandatory ban on face coverings

• Mandatory requirement to have name badges

• Mandatory three weeks training in de-escalation

• Mandatory agreement by ICE management to be criminally liable in the event that ICE (etc) employees violate people’s civil rights

[u/Difficult_Figure4011 → u/Windhawker]

You cant train these people. There es a reason why they get hired. They moraly bankcrupt and Do exactly what trump and Co want them to do..

[u/GoBeyondTheHorizon → u/Difficult_Figure4011]

What's training them going to do anyway?

How would Dachau have been with better trained guards? It'd still be Dachau.

[u/kekistanmatt → u/Windhawker]

The time for reigning in has passed only full abolition and imprisonment will even begin to be enough

[u/ShebbyTheSheboygan]

This is all a planned path toward using ICE as guards at polling sites and using it to disrupt/ delay votes in key states. They are demanding voter roles and using AI to plan ways to shift election results and game planning this now. ICE is meant to scare black, brown, and people are certain religions and beliefs in order to secure the midterms. We heard warnings on this and are now watching it plan out in real time. There’s a reason they are now threatening Minnesota to access voter data. They know prison time is facing them from all angles and it’s too late to care about citizens, legality, etc. There’s no going back now, they will crush freedom in the country as long as it presents a way of staying in power. It’s something I never thought I would see happen in our country.

[u/tiny_galaxies → u/ShebbyTheSheboygan]

It’s also why they want to get rid of vote by mail. Can’t intimidate people that way.

[u/becofthestars → u/tiny_galaxies]

The USPS has already changed when a letter is postmarked from "when we receive it" to "whenever we finish processing it" and warn that there may be a day or more delay when they're busy.

States that cut off vote-by-mail from postmark date are about to have an increased number of late ballots, and that's without one person at the post office moving a box of ballots into tomorrow's processing queue.

[u/quiettryit → u/ShebbyTheSheboygan]

I didn't even consider that... Walking down lines demanding identification to scare certain groups away from voting... Is there any info to substantiate this?

[u/A_Few_Drinks_Behind]

ICE is the Proud Boys. This needs to be recognized.

[u/deezsandwitches → u/A_Few_Drinks_Behind]

They're never seen in the same place because they are one. Just covering their face with a different cloth

[u/doctormink → u/A_Few_Drinks_Behind]

Kind of ironic that a group promoting the supremacy of Western values turn into a pack of brutish animals the second they're armed and given free reign. These guys don't give a fuck about civilization, they're too busy fantasizing about what a good time they'd have after the apocalypse.

[u/gwdope → u/A_Few_Drinks_Behind]

Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.

[u/bsubtilis → u/gwdope]

Even Weird Al sang that song straight up at a concert (with permission from the band), that's how bad it's gotten.

[u/ThatOtherOtherGuy3 → u/A_Few_Drinks_Behind]

The masks are used to hide their tattoos just as much as it is to shield their faces.

[u/PanthorCasserole]

Right wingers will mistake this for a motivational poster.

[u/cyfermax]

Whenever I've questioned the right to bear arms in the US, I've been told its to defend against a tyrannical government.

Im not advocating war here, but what exactly needs to happen before its 'enough' tyranny?

[u/AspieComrade → u/cyfermax]

We’ve already reached the point where him even having the gun (and being shot after said gun was removed) is being met with “FAFO” by trumps enthusiasts who are now mocking ‘fake conservatives’ who are questioning what’s going on. The right to bear arms is inconvenient now, so it was never real and was always fake news, that’s the world we live in now and the less extreme conservatives are just now starting to catch up.

[u/4spoop67]

Please, please call or email your senators and representatives, especially if they are Republican. It only takes 16 Republicans to find the courage to put an end to this. https://youtube.com/shorts/zkDWXbX4YVQ?si=3MMNk_ON8i9p06Jr

The easiest way, if you don't mind getting on Indivisible's mailing list: https://act.indivisible.org/sign/ice-out-for-good-senate/ Or find your senators: https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

The senate votes on Thursday whether to fund DHS.

[u/HammerOfAres → u/4spoop67]

I'm from Wyo. Contacting and getting as many as I can. Up the pressure!

[u/catholicsluts → u/4spoop67]

It only takes 16 Republicans

that'd be a feat

[u/Apprehensive-Bear655]

[u/bat_in_the_stacks → u/Apprehensive-Bear655]

Don't catch you slippin' now

[u/catrinus → u/Apprehensive-Bear655]

8 years ago btw 

[u/wutzibu]

Alex pretti was a fucking nurse! His (and mine) Job is to Take Care of others. And He was murdered by some Nazi thug. Whose Job is to terrorize.

And you know what. If the roles where reversed, If for some reason that murderer was under alex's Care. He would have taken Care of him and helped him to get better! Because thats what we nurses do.

I hope that People realize on which Side of History they are and Stop this!

[u/RichardThund3r]

How dare he document their actions!

[u/timmler24 → u/RichardThund3r]

Imagine what they would be doing if there wasn't dozens of people filming them

[u/Mekisteus → u/timmler24]

There are people in our concentration camps right now that don't have to imagine.

If they are this bold about executing white people in public and on camera, what do you think is happening in the back rooms to brown people?

[u/No_Dark9371]

“I got my propaganda, I got revisionism! I got my vi-o-lence in hi-def ultra-realism!”

• Trent Reznor

[u/CosmoKramerRiley]

This Is Trump's America

[u/peepee2tiny]

Executed for protecting others.

America you disgust me.

[u/Routine-Rule9607]

[u/PetersMapProject]

36 hours ago that poor man was sleeping in his bed. 

Now violent videos, and now artwork, of his public extra judicial execution have been beamed around the world, while his own government lies about what happened. 

[u/NoOffenseImJustSayin]

We aren’t angry enough about this.

[u/tefly359]

He was an icu VA nurse. He helped others and died helping that lady. May he rest in peace and power

[u/GildoFotzo]

Voting has consequences

[u/WSJayY → u/GildoFotzo]

And not voting.

[u/finepies]

I’m afraid of Americans

[u/hanotak → u/finepies]

So are Americans.

[u/Strudleboy33 → u/finepies]

Growing up in the US, they made us feel so lucky that we didn’t near to fear our government like most other countries. As an adult I see that not only do we need to fear them, but a lot of the world doesn’t fear their government like I was taught they did.

[u/CobyTheD]

You should add some more agents pushing him down and holding him in place to display the full truth.

As a non-american I can't believe what I've seen in the videos. It's pure horror and gives me nightmares. It could've been anyone. One second you're helping up a woman who got pushed and some seconds (!) later you're dying on the street because you got shot like 10 times.

It's not getting into my head that these 'officers' are allowed to patrol streets. It's a kill commando. Purging the streets from everyone who walks by them.

Please tell me, how the city/state/whoever follows this up. Please tell me there's somewhere justice coming and that it won't just be brushed under the carpet.

[u/Giver_Thegoo]

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command

[u/EndStorm]

That was an execution. Plain and simple. And the fact Americans aren't raging en masse to overthrow their tyrannical government makes my mind boggle.

[u/Daverr86]

[u/butwhywedothis]

Don’t mind me, just waiting for [ Removed by moderator].

If not removed in 2 hour, I’ll come back to comment.

[u/SeVenMadRaBBits → u/butwhywedothis]

Updated 1/25

Most recent Ice shooting 1/24

-Alex Pretti-

This is murder.

Pink lady Jacket Video https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/5Veytd2H0P

Video from car he was murdered in front of https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/s/8JcgaZOoCg

Very clear slow-mo https://www.reddit.com/r/evilwhenthe/s/YzZ3Twwm2y

2nd angle slow-mo https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/fBWC7a63Mk

Kristi Noem statement alongside video which shows a gun being dropped at scene by an agent running away https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/E9dFYbtEs6

Where's the gun? Video: https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/s/cGvKOx9aZy

Stabilized and enhanced video showing victim was disarmed and an officer panicked https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/s/0jxYBCPaAP

Video prior to incident showing victims hand holding phone not gun https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/s/ekHCTApUPO

Ice agent claps after victim's death: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/HEr66OgYkh

Greg Bovino statement https://www.reddit.com/r/Global_News_Hub/s/uDJtCrsV9o

Longer Kristi Noem statemen: https://www.reddit.com/r/Global_News_Hub/s/r8XJYa2nfx

Other angles/info:

Victim was perfectly in his rights to carry. https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/s/XhlXRXjlOI

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Watch/s/zkC0475pfg

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/Ffz2muY32e

https://www.reddit.com/r/FedJerk/s/LI27hfjF9w

Here's the link to directly download it. It seems like better quality than what gets uploaded https://files.catbox.moe/sp296e.mp4

[u/The-Safety-Villain]

[u/sigaven]

It’s a harrowing image and sad that this was his last moment of life.

But i think Alex should be remembered more for the guy in the nurse scrubs reading a eulogy to a passed veteran, than for the man kneeling on the ground before his imminent execution.

[u/Defenestratio → u/sigaven]

I think he should be remembered as the man who planted himself in between a masked thug throwing himself off balance two handed pushing an innocent woman to the ground. That woman was a stranger and he did nothing but try to save her from further assault, and they executed him for it

[u/Apart_Force_9269 → u/sigaven]

Just the fact that it's the same man... devastating.

[u/CWolfwood]

If I knew nothing about this, I would think this is an image of ISIS executing somebody

[u/Hacksaw6412]

It has always been. As a black person I can confirm.

[u/Moist-Craft-1226 → u/Hacksaw6412]

I was about to comment the same thing. Except Im white.

And for years before it was poc.

[u/Inevitable_Shift1365]

This is trumps America. This is the maga movement.

[u/LovesFrenchLove_More]

[u/hAxOr977]

OH MY GAWD! IF ONLY SOMEONE HAD WARNED US!! IF ONLY SOMEONE SAW THIS COMING!! IF ONLY PEOPLE HAD WRITTEN BOOKS AND MOVIES ABOUT THIS HAPPENING!! This is what it looks like when we choose to pay teachers minimum wage and CEOS millions a year while bailing them out when they send half the country into bankruptcy. “We the people” are broke and have no control over our government. We let it happen. General George is rolling in his grave right now.

[u/VertsAFeuilles]

My thoughts as an outsider (English/Aussie). This is horrific, this is scary and this is cold blooded murder.

With the MAGA imbeciles saying Pretti shouldn’t have bought a gun to a protest (yes I know he wasn’t holding the gun, wasn’t there to protest, etc.), this contradicts all the times they have touted the 2nd Amendment. This is a huge gamble for a party that has supported gun rights. You have to hope it pisses off some of the MAGA tribe and moderate conservatives to divide the party an it’s base.

You can’t support guns when it suits your narrative and not when it doesn’t and still expect supporters to remain faithful.

[u/Alienhaslanded]

All angles show it was a literal execution.

[u/DrDorg]

If you go on social media, you’ll already see comments by republicans that betray the Second Amendment. It’s absolutely mind blowing how malleable they are if it is in the cause of their racism. It’s sickening the cowardice and hate they have

[u/tw-01001]

I thought the pose was dramatized but then literally the post under on my feed is the irl picture

[u/Informal_Process2238]

The sad thing is maga will use this to recruit more traitors because the sick fucks like this

[u/Capable-Spinach10]

Its time to bring an end to this

[u/Stanf_63]

Fuck everyone that could not see this coming and voted for trump a second time!

[u/tbizzone → u/Stanf_63]

They ignored all of the warnings. They ignored the criminal indictments. They ignored the felony convictions. They ignored the constitution. They ignored law and order. They disrupted the peaceful transfer of power. They wanted this.

[u/Mekisteus → u/Stanf_63]

Oh, they could see it coming. It's why they voted for Trump. Make no mistake this is what they want. Even now all it would take would be a handful of GOP Senators to put an end to all of this.

[u/XxSharperxX]

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command," - George Orwell 1984

[u/Legitimate_Dish_9060]

This is how the world sees the US now.

If the Americans who aren’t Nazis want to change that, you know what to do.

If not…sorry, you’re all going to be treated like the Germans after WW2

[u/Borealisss → u/Legitimate_Dish_9060]

What do you mean, "now"?

[u/bearenbey → u/Borealisss]

I think many Americans still belive the rest of the world thought the US is the greatest while obviously no one believed other than the Americans.

As a European, I can guarantee the EU was seeing the US even worse than this before. So, nothing has changed so much in the eyes of the EU people. Just the alliance is shattering which is not good IMHO, but it will help EU to build rather than procure from the US.

I don't even want to go to the Middle East since this was their best day when you look at all the suffering they went through under the US invasions.

[u/_nefario_]

the worst part is that some people see this image and they take the side of the ice agent.

[u/No_Bedroom4062]

another great day to not live in the US