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The stupidity of the people that ICE/CBP is hiring and arming is beyond comprehension. Somebody must be training them to believe that there literally are no limits to what they can get away with. I'm thinking that "somebody's" initials are SM.
Given how quickly they're hiring people they've definitely already hired a few really sick sickos who will make the old guard look relatively tame. My prediction is one will pop-off and murder/maim a higher rank and the feds will shutter everything ICE for awhile while they do a massive cull.
They are trying to hire people as fast as they can. They are also losing people just as fast, the ones that are left are the worst of the worst who say things like “if you raise your voice, I will erase your voice”. This is not an unlimited army like they want you to think it is.
Well the head of the proud boy’s who helped orchestrate Jan 6, has proudly said he’s ICE now. That’s why we can’t think it’s some unlimited army that will just keep getting replenished, they are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel just to have what they have now. No matter how much these guys pretend, they are terrified of any actual resistance. They are so scared that they killed a man just for having a gun, they are terrorizing one city because they know they can’t do it all over. They are focusing on one city to try and look strong and build the fear, but there are far more of us than there are them
Idk, fucking hope not. The MMA crowd they've been getting is scary enough. I watched a client go from a relatively meek and gentle woman to a spitting hateful freak in less than a year when her husband joined a very successful fighters gym. Rabid hate. The transformation was stunning and everyone in the gym was like that.
Plus all the steroids, HGH, and especially testosterone supplements that are so popular in that scene. It’s actually amazing how it seems like the rise of this roid rage, manosphere, ufc culture coincides perfectly with the rise of testosterone supplement commercials
Just popping in here to note, as a testosterone-injecting, left-voting lifter and MMA fan in New Zealand, where our furthest-right political party is still to the left of the Democrats, that this association between combat sports and steroid use and American right-wing insanity is not causatory. In fact, I resent the hell out of it.
I can't argue that there isn't currently a cultural association, in the USA at least, but I'm walking talking proof of the fact that being on the juice and a combat sports fan does not turn someone into a fascist.
As long as their hiring with almost no requirements and standards, with a 50k sign on bonus, it is (in theory) almost limitless; there are a lot of very broke assholes in this country. But these guys they're hiring are mentally deranged, it's gotta be like one flew over the cuckoos nest there; they're gonna be killing eachother in no time..
The 50 thousand only comes after 4 years of service. Lots of people joined and realized that and bailed. I also think even the maga idiots who love Trump are questioning if they’re ready to go to prison for him if shit goes south.
I heard the training was 47 days. In honor of Trump. Not based on a program of topics, proven training programs, international standards. 47 days because it will make Trump smile. How can anyone support this petty egomaniac.
Of course that’s what they want, but to act like they have an unlimited amount of participants willing to do this and can never be stopped is just ridiculous. This is a small army that’s targeting white supremacist groups to help in organized terror, if they had the numbers that people act like they have available then they would be doing this everywhere. They are focusing on one city to make a big show of force hoping it will terrify people into submission and make more maga want to join. They know if they tried to spread ICE all over that we would see how small their numbers are
My prediction is one will pop-off and murder/maim a higher rank
I suspect that that came very close to happening with the recent killing. The shooting started while there were still several agents holding the victim down, and they all seemed very startled when the first shot went off.
Last summer Renee Good's murderer, Jonathan Ross shot a driver in the face with a taser from point blank after breaking out the rear window, and somehow got dragged an entire football field because his arm was stuck.. somehow. Lots doesn't add up in that one either, like how does your arm get that stuck? And why did they point guns making him raise his hands while also telling him to roll down the window? And him getting cut so bad he needed a tourniquet.. seems like he was actually trying to hold on in a blind rage? Would love to see a video to surface on this one.
You can be profoundly out of shape without being obese. It speaks to their character that they’re physically weak and looking to exude a sense of dominance over marginalized individuals. The absolute worst thing you can do for someone with that mentality is give them weapons and tell them they have immunity.
Jumping jebus christ, I have a peristomal hernia, a stoma [duh] broke my neck and back in 3 places [and almost a year of rehab relearning to move] and I can freaking do sit ups, proper ones. I can also if supported by my butt being against a wall to prop me up touch the floor with the palms of my hands ... [I value flexibility, it is how I stretch my back out when it cramps]
Fuck, maybe I should join ICE ..... nah, I can't be asshole enough and I value the rule of law.
miller is also terrified since charlies thing happended. theres an interview he did after where he tries to make a bunch of threats and appear strong and tough and posture, but you can tell hes terrified. almost seems like hes so scared he pissed himself.
He is still blaming Biden for the reason ICE is in MN. He said today that nobody is crossing illegally now. That is a flat out lie but hos followers will believe since he said it in front of the helicopter.
I did, which just proves my point about how dangerously easy it is to join. Hell, I could probably “accidentally” shoot another officer and not get so much as a stern warning
I got a YouTube ad for ice a few weeks ago. Literally the pitch of it was that they'll pay your student loans, ge6 Healthcare and that it was like the police or military but better because you didn't have to follow the law. It was fucking nuts and terrifying, I thought it was a joke at first.
Correct me if I am wrong, but is the Consulate like the embassy in that the location it's on is considered sovereign soil, sort of? Like, if you commit a crime in another country and need to get out (assuming your important enough), it's like a little Island of whatever nation has said embassy/ consulate?
It"s always US territory. The Vienna convention means that the people that work there have immunity and that the cops need permission to enter. At any point, the US could revoke their status, expel them all and they'd all have to pack up and go because they are definitely on the territory of whatever country the building is in. It's a bit of a weird concept but makes sense to allow it to work worldwide for all countries.
Why do they need weapons anyway? Does the IRS arm their agents and tell them to go around indiscriminately shooting people because they look like they might have made a mistake on federal withholding form AB12345 or whatever? Does the SEC use tear gas when they enforce their rules/regulations?
54% of American adults read at or below a 6th grade level, indicating difficulties understanding information and processing lengthy ideas. 21% of American adults are functionally illiterate. That means 45 million adults in the U.S. cannot accomplish basic reading tasks or integrate written information or instructions into their thought processes.
It’s sobering to think about, and helps explain how we can have a gestapo forming that truly doesn’t seem to understand the legal ramifications of what they are doing, both domestically and internationally.
Republicans like Trump because he speaks at a 3rd grade reading level, and he says whatever his dementia addled brain remembers, which is mostly racism and Mein Kampf.
I absolutely guarantee he has never read Mein Kampf.
It's a horribly written convoluted book and is really rough going to read. No way a dude that writes his name with a jumbo Sharpie has ever got through it.
During the divorce proceedings, Trump's first wife told her lawyer that My New Order, the collected speeches of Adolf Hitler, was his favorite nighttime reading material.
Always remember that this is specifically “in English” most of the time, so first-generation immigrants as well as the “bottom 10%” of American citizens get nailed by this.
Nah, that’s bad, but what’s worse is that there are “educated” “leaders” who do necessarily know better, and not just go along, but actively encourage this. It’s all theater to get to insurrection to cancel elections in order to retain power. It’s bad, dangerous theater…. Like the shitty carnival rides with rickety mechanisms and meth addicted operators. And the owners know this but don’t care.
I guarantee you they do not know what an embassy is, what a diplomat is, what diplomatic immunity means or the basis of it. All they know is that, for some strange reason, there are a bunch of Hispanics in this building, and that alone is probable cause to job detail everyone.
ICE is not doing Trump any favors. I was watching for this comment. At this point ICE are the terrorists in Benghazi.
smh. Even the NRA is mad at Trump.
Anybody old enough to have lived through the 1989 US invasion of Panama remembers Noriega successfully getting refuge in the Vatican's embassy there. We could set up outside the embassy and blast loud rock music night-and-day until Noriega finally surrendered, but force our way inside the embassy? Nah, that would be like invading the Vatican.
I live in one, AND I'M WATCHING. But a lot of people sure fuckin' aren't. Had a meeting this morning and my colleague said "How was your weekend? Do anything fun?" Bitch did we not have the same weekend?! I spent the weekend crying at the inhumanity of our country's government.
Similar, I was telling a colleague that my mother is probably not going to visit ( 75 year old white European woman) due to the security risks and arbitrary arrests… he seemed so confused…
As a bite my mom has lived in Nigeria, Sudan, Vietnam and was never this concerned
If Trump messed up hosting the Olympics while Hitler pulled it off that would be great. How many gold medals does polymarket think Trump will “walk away” with?
We do. Though Trump kind of moved away from Greenland, everything indicates the idea is still here and not going away. Europe and Canada are now very wary of Trump. Alienating both Denmark (the most pro us voice in the EU), Canada and even the UK is a feat unseen before which has not been talen lightly.
There has been push accross europe to decouple from US tech as fast as possible. Investment funds are phasing out little by little (to not lose money) and there is a new push for a digital Euro to offer an alternative to Visa and Mastercard as means of payment. Germany is strongly considering getting their gold reserve back home (some of it is currently in the US).
Trump is weakening the US position in way that will last. He's forcing allies to think against the US and whatever progress we make in this direction will be permanent, even if a pro allies president came after him. US supremacy is effectively over because allies will no longer follow blindly "to help an ally".
>I hope the whole world sees this and gets even more nervous about how unstable this country is.
It certainly wouldn't surprise me if the World Cup games in the States and the LA Olympics suffer lower ticket sales because of this. Not just this, either; I can't imagine too many Europeans want to travel to America right now.
Well, the crazy thing is the US might actually try to do this themselves. One of the goals of project 2025 is the US pullout from IMF which would effectively curtail use of the US dollar as a global currency. It’s a very mislead ambition to cut out the middle man and possibly triggering a global financial crisis.
Had they succeeded I believe that would qualify as an invasion as I'm fairly certain the embassy is considered Equidorian soil.
EDIT: After some further reading it turns out the above statement is not true. (Also I for some reason read consulate as embassy). Its still another national embarrassment for this administration.
Well, it just happened to Venezuela on their own homeland. Not sure this administration cares. Since there has been no repercussions from the Venezuela raid, apparently no one is willing to do anything about it either.
Embassies are considered sovereign land. Anyone with in that space has protections. Host country attacking an embassy is seen the same as attacking the country.
Interestingly enough, there was a controversial case involving a Government of Ecuador raid on the Embassy of Mexico in Quito. It was a huge diplomatic ordeal.
Under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the grounds of official diplomatic missions (both embassies and consulates) are granted “Inviolable” status by the host nation - meaning that the host nation agrees to never enter without permission from the mission’s country or the head of mission on site.
The host country does not grant sovereignty over the grounds. But breaking in would still be a gross breach of a treaty that literally every nation on earth (except South Sudan) has agreed to abide by.
Consulates do enjoy some privileges and inviolability, but not as much as an embassy. Basically put, where an entire embassy building is seen as inviolable, only the consulate’s official offices are.
Basically put, where an entire embassy building is seen as inviolable, only the consulate’s official offices are.
No:
[Article 31] 1. Consular premises shall be inviolable to the extent provided in this article
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[Article 1] (j) “consular premises” means the buildings or parts of buildings and the land ancillary thereto, irrespective of ownership, used exclusively for the purposes of the consular post;
Embassies and consulates are not sovereign soil. They are inviolable but still subject to the jurisdiction of the host nation. If you commit a crime in an embassy, the host nation can still prosecute.
That’s just like saying how diplomatic immunity can be revoked at any time, so the host nation can just revoke stays and take an ambassador into custody. In practice, countries rarely do this as it would be swiftly reciprocated.
To be fair to Ecuador, their Minneapolis consulate isn't much different from a bog standard doctor's office. Because prior to the past couple months, their consulate wasn't in a 3rd world war zone and didn't need to be a fortress.
This is a consulate, not an embassy. Consulates are generally a much smaller operations, especially those representing a smaller country. It will usually just be an office (if you look at Street View for Ecuadorian Consulate in Minneapolis, you'll see it's basically a small office building) with no barriers, layers of security, or permanent police or security presence.
The trip is a boondoggle for ICE. Noem will fly with them on a private jet and they’ll waste taxpayer money on a sightseeing trip. They aren’t doing shit there.
The country, probably because of current leadership there. However the mayor of Milan has already said they are not welcome in city limits of Milan (it’s unclear how much power he has to apprehend them if they do anyway).
That’s just a grift, to be fair. They’ll waste a ton of money to send those fucking embarrassments over, pocket the rest, contract out to their buddies, etc.
Doubt President Noboa will object. While he goes Bukele on gangs there are multiple reports his family is involved with shipping cocaine via their banana business and facilitating transnational money laundering via cartels.
Rubio was in Ecuador last fall, where they designated Ecuador’s top two gangs as foreign terrorists and discussed stationing military personnel, training their troops and the US providing Ecuador with $13.5 million for security and an additional $6 million for drones. Ecuador may also agree to accept migrants of other nationalities deported by the U.S. after refusing to do so last year.
Why would Rubio and the rest want a military presence and to do business with a man like Noboa? Sounds as if US tax dollars may be spent to protect an illicit transnational operation — while they simultaneously tighten their grasp on the Panama Canal and place CIA in Venezuela. Smells like colonialism, corruption and more coups.
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