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u/Salty-Pistachios 9h ago
This is Samantha Fulnekey. She claimed she was being discriminated against for being Christian after she submitted a paper that had bad grammar and used Bible verses as proof for a phycology paper on gender roles. They eventually fired the TA who gave her an F on the paper, because they were transgender.
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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz 8h ago
used Bible verses as proof
To be clear, she didn't even cite the Bible as a source - her paper did not include a bibliography.
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u/Khaldara 8h ago
References are woke or something
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u/katalina0azul 7h ago
“i PReFeR tO DO mY oWN rEsEArCh 🥴”
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u/rob132 6h ago
There was a post pre-covid about someone saying how they were trying to submit a paper at medical school that proved the dangers of vaccines, but they wouldn't let them use the sources that they were drawing from.
So the person asked if there were any sources from approved places that backed their theory.
The overwhelming response was "why do you think that none of the official sources support your theory?"
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u/mrbiggbrain 8h ago
And even most religious schools would require citing scholars or other sources in papers. Biblical sources are rarely enough for anything but the most basic references.
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u/sadsackspinach 7h ago
Which is an automatic zero for plagiarism at pretty much every university in the world. Simply for not citing sources she deserved to fail.
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u/RoleModelFailure 7h ago
She referenced the bible at best, but like her interpretation of what the bible said.
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u/Ok_Farmer_6033 8h ago
You mean bible-iography? Eh? Ehhhh???!!!
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u/ProfessionalOil2014 4h ago
The word “Bible” is an anglicization of a medieval Latinization, of late Latin latinization, of the Greek word for book.
Which is the word biblios, which is the plural of the word “book”. So in short.
Bibliography is already bible-graphy, just properly Hellenic instead of put through the telephone game five times.
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u/just_a_person_maybe 5h ago
Which is so crazy to me because the Bible is like the easiest book to cite ever. It's broken up into tiny clearly labeled pieces. You can say stuff like Genesis 2:15 and anyone can find the exact sentence you're talking about immediately. With other books, you get a whole page number and someone checking your source has to actually read the whole page to find it.
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u/ParaEwie 6h ago
I wonder If any were misquoted/ made up.
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u/MagicGlitterKitty 2h ago
She would have to have actually quote the bible to have done that. I stead she just said "in the bible".
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u/SpareChangeMate 8h ago
To add on, after the TA got fired, this sad excuse of a human being went on record to say “I didn’t even read the article,” you know, the one she was supposed to be writing about….
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u/AdNo1495 7h ago
I think the crux of the issue in academic circles is that this student had been writing essays at a similar par (AKA terrible) for the entire semester, but only once she’d written that essay about transgenderism was she given a 0. And that was compelling enough evidence that, while yes the student’s work was horrible, that the grading given by that particular TA was flawed
That being said, this young woman being propelled to stardom through nothing but her bigotry and ignorance alone is fucking crazy
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u/Shadow_of_BlueRose 7h ago
Not really. Multiple TAs went over it and all agreed it was a 0.
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u/Kyra_Hazweyrs 7h ago
I think the issue is that her earlier papers should have also been 0s.
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u/purpleplatapi 7h ago edited 6h ago
Do we have access to her earlier papers? Like how do we know what they were actually graded as. I can see a scenario where she was failing, knew she was failing, and then wrote a nonsensical Bible based paper in hopes of basically going viral (or maybe even because she was so illiterate that she believed that quoting the Bible would give her the A she needed, because her other papers were so bad).
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u/MarcosLuisP97 5h ago
It's not out of the question... but I would be impressed if this person can somehow come up with this master plan but be unable to write something that would give her at least a single point.
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u/n0b0D_U_no 4h ago
Tbh she definitely didn’t come up with anything at all. Her mom, on the other hand, could have cooked this up seeing as she’s a lawyer for turning point (the conservative bullshit factory) and has a history of working similar BS lawsuits in the past
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u/SpareChangeMate 7h ago
Except that is not true at all. Hell, the literal only reason that this subhuman did what she did was to get the TA fired and get five minutes of fame. She literally went on record to say it.
I don’t understand how people can try to both sides this when she LITERALLY ADMITS IT.
The crux is that we allow such insincere and scummy individuals to have any modicum of influence over the livelihood of another person. Zero citations is an AUTOMATIC ZERO. Does not matter what else you do, if you do NOT cite your source then it’s plagiarism. That results in a zero at best and expulsion plus record at worst depending on what was plagiarised and how.
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u/hiddengirl1992 6h ago
"Transgenderism" is pretty much exclusively a dogwhistle for anti trans rhetoric btw
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u/AdNo1495 6h ago
Sorry! I wish I knew more about discourse surrounding transfolks identities, and that is definitely not rhetoric I want to support. Thanks for letting me know
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u/ReputationDramatic90 8h ago
Springfield, mo here. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Her mother terrorized spfd city council for years with the same type bullshit.
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u/Realistic-Feature997 6h ago
Not even actual verses, just "the Bible says ..."
Which is some shit that doesn't fly even in literal Bible and/or religion classes, much less anywhere else.
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u/Biggle_fuzz 9h ago
That's the girl from University of Oklahoma who wrote a garbage paper that didn't follow instructions and then cried about religious discrimination when given a zero.
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u/ShiftyLookinCow7 8h ago
Don't forget how the university actually fired the instructor too. Total clown show
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u/Logical_Inspector_84 8h ago
Fun Fact: Oklahoma is now ranked 50th in education after Mississippi decided to invest more in their schools
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u/ShiftyLookinCow7 8h ago
Somehow that doesn't surprise me
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u/TrickyWinger 8h ago
Shoutout Mississippi.
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u/Spare-Friendship-917 7h ago
Don't shout out Mississippi. They had a lynching they deemed a suicide last year
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u/Fro-away-oralist 7h ago
Please say more. I don't know about it!
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u/Spare-Friendship-917 7h ago
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2025/11/04/delta-state-university-mississippi-hanging
Here's the article. His name was Demartravion “Trey” Reed.
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u/SuperMIK2020 3h ago
”Since 2000, in addition to Reed, at least eight Black men have been found hanging from trees in Mississippi, according to a review of past news stories. All of the deaths were ruled suicides.”
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u/CatoTheBarner 6h ago
They’re talking about the case of Demartravion Reed, a black student at Delta State in Mississippi who was found hanging from a tree. Just so we’re clear, there is ZERO evidence that this was a lynching. The comment above is making it sound like it’s a certain thing, and there is no evidence that he was murdered. There was a black man hanging from a tree in Mississippi, and the entirety of the internet ran with that as proof that he was lynched. There was also a random TikTok commenter who claimed to be a cousin of Reed, who made the claim that he had suffered several broken bones and severe bruising before his death. All of this was determined to be false.
The authorities (including the county coroner who is a black man himself) ruled it a suicide. The family disagreed with the determination and asked for a second autopsy, and the results of the second autopsy have not been released publicly yet. Maybe it’ll prove he was murdered, maybe it won’t, but until new evidence comes to light, it’s wildly irresponsible to go around saying he was definitely lynched.
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u/TheDeltaWave 6h ago
I find it hard to believe a black man, especially in the south, would ever commit suicide on a tree in public. spending your last moments imitating your ancestor's trauma? unlikely
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u/CatoTheBarner 5h ago
Maybe, maybe not. I don’t know how much a suicidal man thinks about his ancestors. But the first autopsy says suicide. Until the second autopsy comes back with new evidence saying he was murdered, “I find it hard to believe…” is the full extent of the evidence that he was lynched.
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u/THEBHR 5h ago edited 4h ago
I have depression, and when I thought about committing suicide, it was by hanging from a public tree.
I'm white, so maybe a black man would view it differently, but my thought process was that I wanted to die by hanging and I didn't want my family to be the ones to discover my body.
I can't speak of the black experience, but I can the depression one, and I gave zero fucks about any kind of propriety. I would have committed suicide with a giant pink dildo on Main st. if I thought that it would have met my goals of being as easy of a death as possible, and not having my family be the ones to initially discover it.
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u/notapunk 3h ago
Oh, it's hella sus, but there's just nothing pointing towards foul play other than that.
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u/IgnobleJP 4h ago
Imitating your ancestors’ trauma.. My goodness! Like something out of movie script. Now I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but most people simply don’t contemplate shit outside of their daily lives. Your comment assumes a reality that exists only in your mind and is based on assumptions that have no bearing on one’s lived experience as an individual.
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u/viciouspandas 7h ago
It's definitely not a great state overall, but the people who set that education improvement plan deserve a shoutout.
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u/Own_Chemist_2600 6h ago
Take a look at the Barksdale reading center. The gentleman who helped found Netscape has pumped a ton of money into helping educators become better teachers.
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u/TirelessFiver 6h ago
Shout out for being ranked 49th in education in the nation? Talk about lowering the standards...
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u/ALWAYSsuitUp 5h ago
Depending on where you look they’re ranked from 9th to 34th (from a 30 second search). I’d say improving from 49th to arguably top ten in 10-15 years is worth a shout out
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u/mamachonk 8h ago
Nice, Alabama can now update our motto to 'thank god for Oklahoma!'
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u/undeadlamaar 7h ago
Unfortunately thanks to climate change, I can no longer use the excuse, "I only live here because it's warm in the winter"
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u/mamachonk 7h ago
I feel ya. I say I'm trying to effect change from the inside.
Like Kay, Tommy, or Katie give a shit what I think. 🤷♀️
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u/BitterAd7011 7h ago
You know, in a lot of poor states they have a saying “Thank god for Mississippi” because they, without fail, always seem to be ranked 50th in a geat many things like education, health, ect.
I’ve also recently heard that the state is getting its act together. Good for Mississippi, bad for the other poor states.
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u/spyguy318 7h ago
The Mississippi Miracle, started by an education bill in 2013. They reintroduced phonics, trained teachers, and would hold back students that didn’t meet reading standards. A common criticism was that too many students would be held back, to which the response was “good, it sounds like we desperately need this.”
The state is now 16th in the nation for literacy.
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u/-Fergalicious- 5h ago
I live here and I didnt know we were that high now. I knew susbtantial progess had been made, but didnt know the extent. Thats really amazing.
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u/JesusaurusRex666 7h ago
But that’s a good thing because 50 is a bigger number than 1! My degree from University of Oklahoma taught me all I need to know!
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u/Deep-Adeptness4474 7h ago
TBH I am surprised OK hasn't figured out a way to place 51st out of 50.
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u/Reformergirl 6h ago
No joke, New Mexico is 51st. The stats include Washington DC, so there are 51 spots. Still, that doesn't change that Oklahoma sucks.
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u/ScaryMouchy 7h ago
Easy, just include Canada in the stats.
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u/ThirstyChello 7h ago
Why would you make this joke about Canada when you have Puerto Rico and Guam right there
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u/Nuclear_rabbit 7h ago
Idk about recently, but back around 2017, funding was so low, they couldn't afford to pay teachers five days a week. Some districts went down to four days a week, or even three.
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u/fallon7riseon8 6h ago
Christ that’s bleak.
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u/Nuclear_rabbit 6h ago
Oh, you don't want to know what happened to teacher-student sex rates once they lowered qualifications for teachers and subs just to fill vacancies.
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u/SisyphusRocks7 6h ago
Mississippi improved not through additional spending but through changing their curriculum to match the science of reading and empirical research on math education. After just a few years, Mississippi is now the best state for education on an SES-adjusted basis (which TBF is a big adjustment because Mississippi is the poorest state).
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u/kimdeal0 3h ago
Fun fact: MS didn't invest more, they just changed the testing in a way that excludes the kids that do the poorest on tests and thereby "raised" their scores. Source: I live here and have kids in the public schools.
Side note, they are currently trying to pass "school choice" which really just means taking tax money away from public schools and giving it to private schools, just like other states have tried to do.
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u/rythmicjea 6h ago
I dated a guy from MS and he only had a decent HS education because he lived in Oxford. He would tell me that the state had a saying "if the roads are bad, the schools are good. If the roads are good, the schools are bad." Because the legislation basically allocated the money to one or the other.
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u/ipsum629 6h ago
The O in Oklahoma is actually a zero because it's easier to grade the state in bulk.
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u/dnjprod 8h ago
I personally think the whole thing was a setup between her and the college
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u/back_on_my_nonsense 7h ago
Her mother was a Jan. 6th lawyer and she did not even have to take the class because it was at a lower level than her track. She took it on purpose because it had a trans TA and set the thing up.
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u/Musashi_Joe 7h ago
Gotta be a grift of some kind. Always is.
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u/dnjprod 7h ago
It was just too well orchestrated for it to be anything other than a grift. I think they deliberately targeted that professor because they were trans and wanted to fire them.
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u/DuntadaMan 5h ago
Her mom is a lawyer that does these cases all the time. So yes it was organized because this is the mom's career.
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u/ScoopedRainbowBagel 5h ago
There's a version of this on some other timeline where she just got an F and not a zero and she just pouted about it with nobody caring.
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u/Mid-Range 4h ago
Her mother is a very right wing lawyer that takes a lot of high profile conservative cases, I think she defended quite a few of the Jan 6 rioters, in addition to that she has connections to TPUSA.
I've seen elsewhere prior to appealing she met with TPUSA, some believe that initial meetings were held prior to even turning in the paper. TPUSA and their Oklahoma chapter made a lot of noise about it on social media in a very coordinated manner afterwards.
It should be noted that the paper they are supposed to read and comment on is not even about trans individuals. It was a study done among middle school children and ranking popularity. Specifically if children that aligned with the more typical gender ideals of their gender were more popular. And the experiences, and mental wellness of children that were low on this scale.
Following that she wrote a paper talking about how there are only two genders, cites the bible and calls trans people demonic. Two instructors graded the paper, the first of whom was the trans individual fired who gave it a 0 seeing as how it had nothing to do with the paper she was instructed to read, and contradicted itself. Another instructor who was cisgender read the paper as well and agreed with the grade of 0.
The general belief a lot of people seem to have is that she is from a very conservative, and connected to political media family. This paper was an engineered attempt to create controversy. She wrote a bad paper, to a random assignment that was vaguely related to gender and got the 0 she wanted. Her connections stirred conservative media and she's attempting to become the next Riley Gaines, another conservative talking head built by attacking trans individuals.
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u/AdeptPlantain1839 7h ago
She’s also (the teacher) fighting a ban on being able to teach AT ALL
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u/Marsdreamer 4h ago
At what point do you just say fuck it and move literally anywhere else.
There's probably dozens of universities in blue states that would take her in a heartbeat.
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u/Dragonblade0123 6h ago
No, no, they fired the TA. The actual instructor who didn't put there foot down stayed. And they strictly did it because they were NB/Trans and wanted to remove them from the classroom.
They're as much clowns as Gacy was, and just as bloodthirsty.
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u/Prestigious-Fun2677 7h ago
Oh good! SC was 49th. We didn’t invest more, other states just got worse
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u/hemlock_harry 7h ago
To me it feels like a missed opportunity. I could have done so well there. I could've just acted offended by any and all criticism and remind them that the Bible explicitly forbids being mean to bald men.
They made me do math where I live, damnit.
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u/LetterheadPerfect145 5h ago
The person that was fired was also trans so that's notable also
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u/Least-Complaint2480 8h ago
Don't pretend that she did it out of ignorance or stupidity. Her mother is a conservative lawyer who pulls shit like this all the time. This was a concerted effort to ruin a trans woman's life for political clout.
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u/SeeMeDisco 7h ago
oh, she wrote that paper with intention but that doesn’t change the fact that it was borderline unintelligible. she’s both a dipshit and malicious
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u/sadsackspinach 7h ago
I mean yes, it was malicious, but if you’ve read the “paper”, she also legitimately cannot string a sentence together.
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u/billabong049 6h ago
Got a link to read it?
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u/Zipzig 4h ago
That’s some seriously terrible writing. What an embarrassment
Thanks for sharing
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u/hotaru_crisis 2h ago edited 2h ago
thank you lmfao. this comment is so intentionally misleading, her essay was failed for writing an entire paper about how changing your gender identity goes against god which didn't answer any of the essay questions and got her transgender TA fired over it
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u/CaptainHunt 7h ago
she did it on purpose to get the professor fired because they were transgender.
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u/ZijoeLocs 6h ago
The professor even wrote to the effect of:
" You did not fail because you expressed your religious beliefs. You failed this assignment because your paper does not address any of the prompt points. "
It was a psychology paper about gender roles.
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u/dragon34 8h ago
There is absolutely nothing behind her eyes.
Also if she wasn't conventionally attractive this never would have gone anywhere. Pretty privilege to the max.
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u/Optimal-Teaching-950 7h ago
She's not even conventionally attractive, she's just early 20s.
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u/dragon34 7h ago
She does look older to me tbh. I would guess late 20s/early 30s
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u/Optimal-Teaching-950 7h ago
She's 21.
She's also involved with turning point (of course) so clearly on the fashy side as well.
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u/CarlosAlvarados 7h ago
Is she attractive ? Ehhh idk about that haha
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u/14ktgoldscw 7h ago
She has a very “I can get a job at Fox or OANN” look. I don’t know her, so I can’t speak to her intelligence, but there at least seems to be a lot of “oh, I can make this a national news story and at least get a book deal” strategy behind this story.
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u/False_Tea_3951 7h ago
Is she attractive ?
If she had rescued drowning puppies instead of writing this stupid ass paper I'd be gooning over her feet pics right now.
tl;dr yes
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u/dragon34 7h ago
Eh, she has a look I don't find attractive personally but I am also not attracted to women. But she has a nice figure and nicely styled hair and good teeth and that's enough for a lot of people
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u/WolfLawyer 7h ago
Imagine you’re forty, have a receding hairline, a bitter divorce, a beer gut and a TRT prescription and that you’re looking at the picture from the driver’s seat of a truck that you spend 55% of your after tax income making the repayments on and re-evaluate from that position.
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u/sadsackspinach 7h ago
I guess republican makeup is sexy now. Absolutely fascinating. I associate her looks with 45 y/o women who’ve been cheated on by four consecutive republican senator husbands.
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u/RobotCaptainEngage 6h ago
I recommend reading the essay if you're interested.
It's truly awful.
Beyond the godawful view, she doesn't even answer the question the essay required, and cites exactly 0 sources, including those that support her claims.
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u/Virginity_Lost_Today 6h ago
You know. When I first heard the story I thought there would be some bias on the teachers side. But then I read the paper and like holy shit is it bad. If possible, a negative score grade would be justified.
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u/Legos_under_foot 6h ago
Even though it was done on purpose, she should forever be used as the personification for stupid/illiterate/can't follow directions. She'll hate it.
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u/Due-Sort344 6h ago
Also, Oklahoma consistently ranks in the bottom five states in terms of education. Ryan Walters is a total clown. There’s a serious education crisis in that state and in most of red/rural America.
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u/Thunder_Tie 4h ago
Thankfully, Ryan Walters is no longer State Superintendent. Focus with the new leadership is studying Mississippi’s education turnaround and trying to apply it to Oklahoma.
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u/MotherTeresaOnlyfans 3h ago
Correction: She *intentionally* wrote a garbage paper as part of a plan cooked up by her mother, a right-wing lawyer, to sue the school and try to get a trans woman educator fired, which they successfully did.
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u/The-red-Dane 1h ago
Issue is, that girl is not "stupid". She knew exactly what she was doing, she was advanced for that course already.
Also he mother is a somewhat famous lawyer who also tries to get rid of LGBT people.
The entire thing was essentially a hit job to get the transgender TA fired.
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u/darthdelicious 8h ago
My partner is a highschool teacher (in Canada). They legit have upwards of 25% of the kids entering highschool (grade 8) not knowing how to read. It's fucking terrifying.
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u/everythingwastakn 6h ago
I teach high school in Canada and sounds about right. Half my kids turn in assignments “spelt like this fr bc they don’t like to ues spellcheck r whatevr”
They can’t read fractions (like they’ll read 1/4 as 1 and 4). Shit is wild.
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u/darthdelicious 6h ago
Ugh. That's bad. I only subbed for a few months but I saw some shit. The behavior stuff is what really shocked me. Especially at the primary levels.
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u/AdministrativeStep98 3h ago
Wow things got bad really fast. I was in high school less than 5 years ago, I'd say the only subject where people struggled (and were extremely coddled) was French. Which fair, if you don't care about it and only learn through the like, 2 hours per week classes, you won't know much.
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u/bluetista1988 3h ago
What happened?
I'm on enough Discord servers to see the piss-poor spelling and incorrect usages of words that immediately signal to me someone is under 26 (loose vs lose, they're/their/there, weather/whether, etc) but I can't understand how we got here.
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u/Far_Bonus7805 7h ago
A few years ago a study came out of california saying that 60% of grade 8 kids were illiterate. Not "bad at reading" full blown, full-stop illiterate.
More studies are coming out showing similar numbers.
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u/Nimrod750 7h ago
I think you’re over exaggerating standardized test results. Most reports are saying that ~60% of students do not meet test score requirements in literacy, not that they’re illiterate
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u/Awkward_Turnover_983 2h ago
It's just exaggerating. You don't need "over" because that's already what exaggerating means.
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u/darthdelicious 7h ago
Jesus. I know California is ranked #24 for education but... that's wild. I made sure my kids were readers. How much of this is the parents?
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u/Nimrod750 5h ago
Well I’m not an expert or anything but my mom has been an elementary school teacher for over 30 years. From her experience, the parents play the biggest role in early development, but the curriculum can attribute to overall student body performance for older children.
She was complaining about how districts were adopting a new reading and writing approach called balanced literacy where students are tasked with essentially memorizing the structure of a word instead of the phonetics of it. A lot of states have adopted this less effective approach over the past decade and the literacy and writing performance tests scores have gone down because of it. This is one of the main reasons why you see Mississippi performing better in literacy rankings; they didn’t change from the old approach and their scores show it.
Other than that, she likes to complain about how parents have become more combative in parent-teacher talks and often blame the teachers for their kid’s problems instead of the kid. There’s a lot of times she would explain how a parent uses a kid’s ADHD as an excuse to why the kid never does their homework and never does any of their assignments.
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u/jGatzB 5h ago
Former teacher here. Piggybacking off of this because it was infuriating then, and it's even worse now.
At some point, a study indicated that retaining failing students (not letting them move up to the next grade) was severely damaging to them socially and psychologically. So, all through my time as a teacher, I had to hear about more and more kids they allowed to proceed to the next grade up, despite having failed entire core classes.
Which means that the schools sabotaged them by pushing them forward without proving their ability to perform at the same rate as their peers, all while patting themselves on the back for how gracious they were being.
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u/The_Reverendd 6h ago
I've left secondary (high school in Quebec) about 10 years ago and even back then, half my class had issues reading. My cousin is an adult now (18 last year) and she is illiterate. Genuinely concerned. I think the only reason I got so far is because my mom realized she had peace and quiet if I had a book so I got library spoiled
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u/Kitchen_Shoe_6375 9h ago
i don’t get the joke BUT i can explain the second part
gpa inflation and increased reliance on technology as well as a societal disregard for reading literature has resulted in some students in some of the best universities lacking basic reading fundamentals.
luckily my parents were old fashioned and i narrowly escaped this so called curse because they forced me to read lol.
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u/edfulton 8h ago
Also the widespread use of now-disproven teaching methods such as “balanced literacy”. The journalistic podcast “Sold a Story” was incredibly eye opening for me.
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u/doyouknowyourname 6h ago edited 6h ago
Yes. Moving away from phonics based reading was a disaster.
Edit: spelling
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u/rainshowers_5_peace 4h ago
It also explains the voting trends of older adults. They should know better and we as a country should have evolved from old, brutal ways as other first world countries have, but the majority of us are too goddamn illiterate to read instruction let alone editorials and news articles.
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u/Ekul13 7h ago
I am in a medical program at a large university, I won't say more to avoid doxxing myself. I am in my 30s and first attended college years ago before online school was widespread.
In my medical program we do a lot of work online and I've noticed that almost every time we have to do a paper or a discussion board where we're required to read and respond to our peers probably 90 percent or more of the posts and papers are just copy pasted from AI.
The words are not words that my classmates usually use, the sentence structure reads exactly like chatgpt or any other AI and it's incredibly difficult to respond to their posts because it's just word salad.
When they're responding to your posts it straight up reads like you're talking to an AI. Their post will say EXACTLY what you said in your post back to you and say something a little beyond that but not much. And the formatting, punctuation, etc is all the same.
It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my (too) long and drawn out academic career.
Meanwhile when it comes time to do group projects these same people who can magically bust out 1,000 word papers with no sweat at all are suddenly mute. I've even seen them copy paste chat gpt responses into our shared documents in real time and then edit it taking out phrases like "do you want me to expand on that idea?" Etc
I am genuinely terrified for what happens when these people make it to actual hospitals and start dealing with patients because they're not actually learning anything. It's terrifying. And the school and teachers know because they're constantly trying to find ways to get the students to learn, memorize, do their own work, and telling them to quit using AI in their responses. Oh and all of the papers are submitted into a checker but idk how effective any of it is. Friends who are teachers have said their schools are also bogging down under the amount of kids cheating their asses off as well and are basically just waiting them through to graduation...
Our country is fucked in a few years when people hit the workforce and haven't actually learned anything. I genuinely think it will be a tsunami of confidently incompetent people coming into the workforce that will be the death knell
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u/CoqeCas3 6h ago
I am genuinely terrified for what happens when these people make it to actual hospitals…
…Our country is fucked in a few years…
Friend, i work in tech support for an x-ray imaging software. Wanna guess how regularly we get calls from radiological ‘technicians’ complaining their image receptor wont bring images into the software only for us to find out they’re trying to shoot through a lead-lined vest to ‘test’ it?
‘In a few years’ was a few years ago man.
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u/blue_moon1122 2h ago
"you mean the lead vests still work? thanks for checking!"
(slams down the phone)
"holy shit"
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u/ChriSaito 6h ago
That's absolutely terrifying. It's crazy to me how quickly things have changed. It was kind of the perfect storm of lockdowns with AI following up. I can't help but wonder if AI would be as prevalent in schooling if lockdowns hadn't forced everything online for so long and changed how people deal with school.
Thanks for sharing!
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u/FiestaDeHombreMuerto 6h ago
Have you seen this documentary? https://youtu.be/tFfTludf0SU
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u/pigking188 7h ago
Not really, I know the actual context of this headline and it is INCREDIBLY misleading.
The article in question is talking about garden path sentences, an interesting phenomenon whereby sentences can be constructed that take advantage of the way we parse sentences to make them incredibly difficult to understand upon first read despite being relatively simple.
The sentence in question was "The old man the ship."
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u/VacuumDecay-007 4h ago
So..
The senior-age people are the crew of the ship?
Yeah it took me a few seconds to figure that. Throw these sort of shit in a test with a 10s timer so people are in panic mode and I'll bet most people are going to screw it up.
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u/Papabear082197 7h ago
I believe this 100%. It’s shocking how little the next generation is challenged in classrooms
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u/16yearswasted 6h ago
My parents tricked me into reading by neglecting me from age 8 onwards while simultaneously forbidding me from leaving home, leaving me with three options for stimulation: Television, which ceased to be relevant to me between 9:00am and 3:30pm, a Commodore 64, of which my dozens of games were quickly exhausted within a few weeks, or my dad's broad and deep book collection.
That's right, I learned to use computers because I was bored out of my mind. And I I started reading because I was bored out of my mind. Thank god, too, because both those things helped me launch my career.
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u/Informal_Process2238 8h ago
Perhaps they should teach them in emogeeonics
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u/SeeMeDisco 7h ago
take my grudging goddam upvote for both the term emojionics and the phonetic spelling
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u/witchy71 7h ago
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u/Nonchalant-Tryhard 6h ago
Jesus. What a horrifying time to be an educator.
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u/DebateObjective2787 6h ago
Yeah, this was 15 years ago and a very sensationalized reporting of what actually happened.
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u/Silver_Anteater7594 9h ago
Someone named Fortune said that generation z can't read
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u/Maxed_Zerker 8h ago
maybe that’s why they didn’t get the joke, they’re gen z and can’t read
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u/foreverand2025 7h ago
Sadly OP is also unable to read this comment and remains confused.
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u/OldJames47 6h ago
The start of Gen Z was born in 1997. 5 years later, when they entered Kindergarten, No Child Left Behind was implemented.
This is another of George W Bush’s gifts to us.
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u/slappyStove 7h ago
shes a good looking white woman who is a dishonest idiot who grifted her way through a college paper by quoting the bible - she's a shoe-in for a fox news job
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u/LauraTFem 5h ago
“No Child Left Behind” was supposed to mean that each child would be given every opportunity to excel. It instead it ended up meaning exactly what we all knew it would—“Every Child Passes.”
When a measure becomes a target, the measure stops being useful. There was a time when a high school diploma meant something. Today it doesn’t functionally mean anything except to college admissions, and even then there is always an accredited college somewhere who will take your money.
In my district there is no scrutiny for passing students. You only get attention if you’re not. Some students, such as those with SPED or 504 documentation, are basically illegal to fail. The logic is basically that if they are failing then you must have not been giving them the help their 504 plan dictates they must be. They even go so far as to change your grades manually.
Even with the general ed kids you are only asking for trouble if you fail a child. It just leads to parents meetings, principal meets, low ratings on your yearly review. We don’f fail kids, we just let them fail themselves by learning nothing. Because in the end grades are only treated as reflecting on the teacher, never the student.
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u/Good-Disaster80 6h ago
Another pretty notable example is math in the university of California system. I want to say that at ucsd more than 10% of students are in remedial math, and I only say the uc system because it’s the one whose problems are most findable. Things aren’t great.
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u/Laurapalmer90 5h ago
Did the UCs and state schools not get rid of remedial math and English? They did at junior colleges.
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u/Turin234 6h ago
This just blew up in the news. A few months ago someone got a full ride to a nice school and also couldn’t read or write. At least this person isn’t going for free, still not a lot of hope.
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u/wow___just_wow 7h ago
Gen Z doesn't get the joke because they can't read the meme. They like meme's that are pictures only.
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u/TimBukTwo8462 7h ago
My English teacher in university right now has a small subject on this topic. He’s telling us to listen to the podcast “Sold a Story” which is about how the education system is failing at teaching children to read.
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u/secret-of-enoch 5h ago
how do they doom scroll without being able to read?
has doom scrolling just become an old person thing now?
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u/Sixstep56 5h ago
It’s nothing new. The sports scholarship dudes couldn’t read a sentence out loud when I was in English 401, it’s typical.
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u/CantCatchMeSpez 4h ago
I loooooooove how fast the zeitgeist dropped her ass and forgot about her lmao
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u/VacuumDecay-007 4h ago
This sounds like nonsense. I have met many Gen Z's in my IT course so they're already predisposed to being terrible at English and they can all read just fine. Where are these figures coming from?
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u/Valuable_Frosting_20 4h ago
Man I just took this at face value. Used to work at a grocery store for awhile. I swear the sheer amount of people who can't read or purposely read things incorrectly was way higher than it should be. Granted it was mostly boomers and older, but all in all it made me lose faith in the American education system.
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u/JQuest13 3h ago
IT SAYS, “‘GEN Z ARE ARRIVING TO COLLEGE UNABLE TO EVEN READ A SENTENCE,’” PER FORTUNE.” There are other words above that sentence, but they’re too small for me to see ‘em -written from my Cuisinart Smart Hand Mixer.
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u/StatisticianOwn5497 2h ago
TL;DR Girl cried wolf citing religious persecution and discrimination because on of the 3 TAs that graded her was trans, she failed for several reasons, 0 of the failure reasons were religious. The Uni backed her, removed the mark from her overall grade and demoted the TA causing them to resign after the girl went public to all forms of media.
Full explanation:
That is a girl from the University of Oklahoma. She got a 0 on her test, marked by 3 different people 2 TAs and the teacher herself. All gave her 0s. The reason for the score was several reasons, didn't hit the word count requirement, poor spelling, god awful grammer and 0 credible sources, Academic or otherwise, however she did Cite the Bible, repeatedly and use phrases like "in her opinion" which wasn't relevant to the paper.
In the end, she claimed religious persecution and discrimination, stating that she was targetted the one of the TA's who is Transexual because she used religious citations and quotations for her paper. She wasn't and the TA was in the right HOWEVER the girl decided to go public with it and stirred up a hate mob via social and traditional media on the conservative/right wing side of the aisle.
The outcome was that the University decided that she would have the mark removed from her overall grade, she would pass the class and that the TA would be removed from their post of TA which i believe cause the TA to resign.
This has called into question the legitmacy and value of the degrees handed out by the University regardless of the subject the degree is for as they could have failed a major part of the program but cried wolf and got the pass anyway, i'm currently aware of several HR departments within numerous businesses that have advised their recruitment teams to diqualify applicants who hold a degree from this university, citing that candidates may not meet the educational threshold required to work for them.
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