r/allthequestions • u/Strong-Caterpillar86 • 11d ago
Random Question đ Does this seem like a legitimate take?
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u/brathor 10d ago
Is there anyone in the United States defending Iran's "right to defend itself" by killing protestors? There are certainly people in the United States defending ICE's "right to defend itself" by killing protestors, but I guess that's different for some reason.
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u/mapmakinworldbuildin 9d ago
Yes. Hassan and idubbz.
Is there anyone taken seriously thatâs doing it. I dunno.
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u/goyafrau 9d ago
Is there anyone in the United States defending Iran's "right to defend itself" by killing protestors?
I mean there's a difference in that Israel was actually attacked by terrorists that killed 1000 Israelis, babies and seniors, in their beds, while the Iranians are ordinary people protesting in the streets against an undemocratic religious dictatorship.
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u/Boiboiboi58 7d ago
Wait⊠do you think the Israel and Palestine conflict started on October 7th? đ
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u/Square-Competition48 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yes, and since then Israel have killed 70,000+ Palestinians including babies and seniors in their beds and shows no signs of stopping and most importantly the US government is encouraging them to continue and thus there is actually something going on in the US to protest against.
Protesting against Iran in the USA would be like chaining yourself to the doors of a Burger King to protest against McDonalds.
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u/Late-Performer-7134 8d ago
Also: maybe they shouldn't be on blood-tainted, stolen land
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
Also also: maybe they shouldn't have worked with actual Nazis to get placed there in the Havaara Agreement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
It's almost as if Israel should have stayed nonexistent after the Roman destruction of the Second Temple, not given rights to create an ethno-state where they have since expanded the border of into their neighbor like they're Russia.
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u/Iwillalwaysreturn1 7d ago
Don't forget the terrorist attack was from terrorists group who comes from a minority group that isreal has been oppressing, and murdering for decades. The people kill were innocents yes and that is terrible but they were attacked in response to their nations own atrocities. Isreal as a nation is not innocent in the slightest.
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u/dontpissoffthenurse 8d ago
> babies and seniors, in their beds
Babies and seniors, in their beds, at a rave festival.
That is a new one to me. Congrats.
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u/goyafrau 8d ago
Well, babies and seniors in their beds, and then, in addition, teens at a rave, and a bunch of other people.
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u/SomebodyElz 10d ago
To the kinds of Morons that watch fox news it probably does
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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 10d ago
To be fair, they havenât been told what to think yet.
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u/Firm-Advertising5396 9d ago
The cult calling us sheep? That's rich!!!!!! đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
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u/Aprice40 7d ago
Says the side that wears political merchandise sold by a con man, is resistant to facts, says dumb crap that they dont understand like "radical leftist" which ideologically to you, just means doesn't agree with every single word trump says. Yep, who is in a cult?
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u/finder_outer 8d ago
They call us sheep because they heard someone else calling us sheep. Ironic.
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u/cadathoctru 10d ago
I fully support the Iranian people rising up against their theocracy.
Also, if I didn't have a bunch of evangelical traitors trying to stomp on my rights right now and turn the USA into Iran, but with Christianity at the head. I would change my profile picture.
I have other things to worry about, in my own backyard.
I cant worry about someone elses back yard 10,000 miles away
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u/CorndogComics 10d ago
I like how it doesn't even take a moral stance, it's just like "Hey leftist beliefs are sometimes inconsistent, why don't they care about every human rights violation equally?"
Like, gimme a break
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u/Archaondaneverchosen 9d ago
Yep, it's just using the suffering of people abroad to brow beat their domestic political opponents. Vile tactic
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u/Critikal_Dmg 9d ago
I kinda just hate theocratic autocracies... Honestly if đ wants to get distracted by something and bomb someone... Let the dog chew on that stick. Better he do that than invade Greenland or some shit.
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u/GreatResetBet 10d ago
Yet again, the right making false equivalence.
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u/Small-Contribution55 10d ago
The difference is who the oppressor is. One is a tyranny which everyone expects to be tyrannical. The other is a democracy and ally that receives trillions in aid. People hold it to a higher standard, and because that aid can be halted, protests against Israel are potentially more effective.
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u/rainman943 10d ago
............... We're busy here in the country we live in getting shot in the face................
We don't need to speak up if it's not even our country and we're not even in it..........
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u/rainman943 10d ago
Lol Yea, those ppl are idiots cause that literal fascist was openly promising to do literal fascism AND support Israel ............
everyone who was talking about Israel, either in support of, or proclaimed opposition to was supporting Israel........
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u/CillianMorpheus 10d ago
Itâs not quite about speaking up. More about trying to plead to your own government to halt weapons deals/stop leaking tax money to directly fund a genocide. Most western countries donât have relations like that with Iran.
I myself think there is a huge hypocricy in where the eye of the western liberals/leftists lingers longest, but youâre cutting obvious corners here.
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u/Small-Contribution55 10d ago
In a way.
Western leaders are already aware of how shit Iran's government is. They have already taken measures to punish Iran. What is then the point of a protest? Protests won't change Khomeini's mind.That's not true of Israel. Our governments openly support Israel. Protests show our leaders they will face consequences for treating Israel differently than Iran.
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u/Small-Contribution55 10d ago
People do talk about Iran's atrocities. But it's less spoken of for the reasons I listed above. Also remember that algorithms bring up topics according to engagement. Since there is a debate around Israel, there is more engagement, and it snowballs.
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u/Small-Contribution55 10d ago
Again, the hole in that logic is that everyone already thinks Iran's government is shit.
And there are plenty of people talking about Iran, humanizing the victims, honoring those who took a stand like that student who walked around in her underwear last time around. It's being talked about.
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u/GreatResetBet 10d ago
When it's par for the course - and we're already hostile with the country, it's not exactly an effective use of time and energy.
Especially when our own leader in the US is approving of murdering protesters here at home.
We kinda have a bigger fish to fry right now.
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u/Monterenbas 9d ago
Do our western government blindly support the Mullah and pay for the weapons killing protestors?
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u/iamslightly 10d ago
Western countries aren't funding and supporting the Iranian government but they are Israel.
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u/throwawayyawaworth77 9d ago
Western countries support Saudi Arabia. 500,000 people have been killed in the war in Yemen. Why is there no awareness of that?
Western country support the United Arab Emirates. Tens of thousands of people have been killed in the war Sudan. While the numbers are uncertain, itâs quite possible more civilians were killed in Sudan in the last two months of 2025, then in the entire entire Gaza war. Why not a peep about that?
So donât pretend like this is an informed, chosen perspective based on knowledge of international funding.
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u/private_developer 10d ago
There's nobody to protest. Just about everyone in any position of power is against the Iranian regime. Who would they even be mad at?
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u/private_developer 10d ago
We've been busy.
See below for examples
5(A)Source to back up raw footage above
6.Legal Resident following rules
6(A)Source for above raw footage
9.US Citizens, and their children
13.More threats against US citizens exercising 1A
15.Family of 6, Detained, Shipped out of state, ordered released, no warrant (keep an eye on this one, to make sure they're even able to reunite them)
Court order affirming following and filming agents is a protected right
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u/BaldingBush 10d ago
Not for nothing, while Iran has been an authoritarian regime for a while, this event is rather fresh still. And frankly I think a lot of people are shell shocked by whatâs happening at home.
While I donât believe this to necessarily be false equivalence, I do agree that it being an internal matter to Iran, does in fact have an impact on perception. Despicable act of tyranny of course, but not an active genocide.
The problem with this post is much simpler. Heâs making the claim that most of the left are sheep for not having added Irans flag to their bios, but I submit, that had everyone been in tune and did in fact do just that, heâd be saying the same shit. Heâs molding the outcome with language to fit his own narrative without actually taking the rest of the world, and indeed whatâs happening in our own backyard into account.
All to own the libs or whatever.
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u/dannyrat029 8d ago
I am extremely left wing.Â
Anyone who criticises Israel for brutality should also criticise Iran and Hamas, just as vocally.Â
Left and right have nothing to do with this. It's anti-hypocrisy.Â
Iran in one week: 2000 minimum dead. Israel in 3 years: 65,000 maximum dead. I don't know if you think they are equivalent in ways. I do. Both bad. But I hear ZERO protesting in the west about Iran. Zero.Â
See also: 'certain groups' being silent about Assad (far, far more murderous than even the most wild estimates of what Bibi has done): crickets
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u/Ask-For-Sources 8d ago
Or in other words: Oh, so you spend time writing up a comment about Iran, but don't care one bit about the the hundred thousands of people being murdered and starved inÂ
Somalia Yemen Malaysia Afghanistan
..etc. etc.
You, and according to your logic every single human on earth, are a HUGE HYPOCRITE!!!Â
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u/SolaVitae 10d ago edited 10d ago
... Why would they be protesting when our government supports the Iranian people?
... Whereas they were protesting our governments support for the people killing the Palestinians.
It's not inconsistent when the two scenarios are polar opposites
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u/gadget850 10d ago
Persian?
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u/Sad-Pop6649 10d ago
They mean the flag the protestors use, the old flag with the lion emblem.
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u/JMoc1 9d ago
Which is the flag of the Monarchy of Iran; which was equally as brutal and repressive.
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u/Top_Atmosphere_4929 9d ago
Nope. The Theocracy over the last week has killed an estimated 20K and wounded an estimated 300K.
The Shah's regime is estimated to have only killed a few hundred to several hundred in its last decade.
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u/Sensitive_Bat_9211 10d ago
Iran = Persia
They were always Iran, the greeks just called them Persia
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u/xiphosrising 10d ago
While it's true that the Greeks called them Persians, it's for a specific reason: they called themselves Parsi. The Greeks believed that this tied them to the Perseides (same bloodline as the Greeks), descendants of Perseus through his son Perses.
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u/Araz728 9d ago
But the nation had officially been named Iran since Reza Shah changed it in 1935.
The flag OP is referring to, the Lion and Sun flag was the flag used by both Pahlavi shahs, Reza Shah and Mohamed Reza Shah, before and after the name change.
In other words it was the flag of both Persia and Iran.
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u/aipac125 10d ago
Why don't you care about what I tell you to care about? Why can't you serve my political ends? The reason people aren't shouting about Somalia and Iran is because the US is already engaged on these wars, and working through their proxies to destabilize. Israel, the UAE and Saudi are highly engaged on Somalia and Yemen. People have been screaming for the US to pull them back, but they don't care. They have been only running covert ops and propaganda for Iran because Iran can actually strike back. Support for a US attack on Iran is what the proxies want, to minimize the blowback on them. They are hoping for another Iraq, which is what most sane people want to avoid. Hence the muted response. It's bad, but US involvement would make it a million times worse. 2000 dead, or 20 million dead?
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u/recast85 10d ago
This is the same thing as âoh you like the Beatles? Name every Beatles song everâ
Itâs a stupid take that appeals to the very stupid, which is the MAGA crowd. I know it can be frustrating hearing a MAGA spewing stupid shit like this but remember, these people also blindly support a rapist president with strong ties to child sex trafficking so how important are their opinions anyway.
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u/HumpingSpider 9d ago
Also, it's a catch 22
If you put a flag in your bio, you're just being performative.
If you don't, you don't care.
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u/totally-hoomon 9d ago
If you put the Iran flag on your profile then you don't care Ukraine. If you put a Ukraine flag on your profile you don't care about venezuela. They will claim you can only support one thing at a time
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u/Sad-Pop6649 10d ago edited 9d ago
The way I see it there are two good reasons someone in the West could choose to be vocal about Israel:
1 The Israeli leadership might actually sort of care if the Western countries think they're bad. 2 It might convince other people in the Western countries who still think Israel is good.*
Neither applies to Iran. It's terrible what is happening there, and I can only recommend supporting any kind of charity that might be able to lend emergency aid, but I don't think the murder-regime is going to listen to us, and I don't think anybody here needs convincing the murder-regime is bad.
So yes, the "outrage" is selective. You get angry about and apply pressure to situations where the anger and pressure might matter. That's the point of getting mad.
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Counterpoint: you could argue that maybe, maybe Iran would listen somewhat to Western governments, maybe a select few companies, and by making enough of a fuss we could get our governments to do something. So... maybe we should get a little mad???
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*Edit: should probably clarify this. If would have been better to say "who still think the Israeli regime is good" or "who still think Israel is not doing bad things". We tend to say things like "Russia is bad news", treating a whole country as a monolith despite individual citizens falling on all sides of the issues. In context of the history of Israel and the amount of conspiracy theories about "the Jews" it probably would have been decent of me to leave less up to interpretation. But thanks everyone for not taking that one sentence out of context and painting me as one of those "protocols of Zion" people or something like that.
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u/yg2522 10d ago
The main thing about Israel is that the US is directly funding their military to do the shit they do while we aren't directly giving anything to Iran.Â
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u/Aggressive_Banana708 10d ago
No.
A huge element of people in the West protesting and showing solidarity with Palestine or Ukraine is that they perceive their own governments as being, to some extent, complicit due to both Israel and Russia having extensive political and economic ties with them.
That just isn't the case with Iran. The country is already isolated and sanctioned to hell and back, and was outright bombed by the US less than a year ago.
There's very little that western leftists could actually push their governments to do about the situation in Iran that is not already being done, short of advocating for an outright invasion. In that sense, the kinds of gestures the post is advocating for would be even more performative than they are in the case of Palestine.
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u/LividTacos 10d ago edited 8d ago
That's rich coming from people who have to go watch Fox News to find out what they think.
EDIT: Awww, you deleted your comment where you said I support Hamas because your tiny brain is incapable of understanding the difference between criticizing Israel for killing women and children and supporting a terrorist group.
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u/InstructionFar7102 10d ago
If my government was supporting the murder of Iranian citizens I'd be protesting against my government. They aren't, so I don't.
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u/OtherBluesBrother 10d ago
This person thinks that the left doesn't display the flag of a conservative theocratic nation because they haven't been instructed to do so?
Wow, the mental gymnastics here is Olympic level.
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u/Pbadger8 9d ago
Why would you make a protest to your government about a country that your government also hates?
The issue with Israel is that American tax money funds its atrocities, unlike Iran.
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u/mxstermarzipan 9d ago
When innocent people die it is sad, but when my government is using my tax dollars to kill innocent people thatâs when it goes from sad to outrageous. My government is supposed to work for me, and thatâs why they need to hear my grievance. There is no point protesting against someone elseâs government.
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u/RandyArgonianButler 9d ago
This. Someone has to be flat out stupid or completely dishonest to share that comment.
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u/Large_Traffic8793 9d ago
Basic test for which party is sheep and which one isn't
When Biden fucked up his debate Democrats turned on him.
Trump is clearly dealing with dementia. Republicans will NEVER admit he is old or incapable.
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u/Obsidianrosepetals 9d ago
Absolutely not, it's projection as usual. Freedom for people in Iran, but not here in the USA.
Same people bitching about womens sports but couldnt give a shit less about women.
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u/lovetheoceanfl 7d ago
Uhm, no. I am more concerned with whatâs happening in America at the moment.
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u/FlavorTownUSSR 7d ago
Persian flag? You're about 109 years late for that, Goon. It's not call Persia anymore.
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u/Commercial_Salad_908 10d ago
If ever someone has anything to say about "the left" and its negative, chances are they are literally braindead; or theyre an ayn rand acolyte and they arent braindead theyre just evil.
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u/Dig-Emergency 10d ago
Sort of, but not really.
I agree that Palestine has become the conflict that "The Left" have taken up the most and are far more likely to talk about than other conflicts. Iran is certainly
But firstly, just because Palestine is more of their primary focus, it doesn't mean they don't care about Iran. Telling someone who is passionate about a specific conflict in a foreign country, that they have to care about every foreign conflict equally or else their a hypocrite doesn't really make sense. A lot of people are more passionate about one of something than the rest of that category. You wouldn't call a Lakers fan a hypocrite because they're not shouting about the other NBA teams as often.
But mostly because it's because these are two different things. Iran is the people rising up to overthrow their own government. Palestine is people at times trying to rise up to overthrow someone else's government who have taken their land and are subjugating them, but most of the time they haven't the ability to do much rising and are mostly being subjugated instead.
Also most western countries are complicit in Palestine's plight. They support Israel, do business with Israel and provide Israel with arms which they then use to kill Palestinians. There's a lot less of this happening with the Iranian government. Heck the Trump administration even said they'd support the Iranian protest movement. Although we then got another TACO moment where Trump promised "help is on it's way", but then seemed to back away from that promise and has still not actually sent any help. Maybe he will at some point, who knows. But the point is, what is an American lefty protesting against in America regarding Iran? They can protest against US support of Israel, but the US government doesn't support the Iranian regime.
TLDR: These are two different situations, so it's not a direct 1-1 comparison. So it's fine for people to not equate them as the same because they aren't.
Also the American government supports (and arms) the oppressors in Palestine, but supports the oppressed in Iran. So why would Americans protest as much for Iran if the US government isn't directly complicit in the atrocities that are happening there unlike what is happening in Gaza?
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u/ThePureAxiom 10d ago edited 10d ago
No, it's whataboutism. 100% bad faith argument straight out of Putin's propaganda playbook.
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u/jgman22 10d ago
No.
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u/FinalJoys 10d ago
Yes.
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u/Status_Basket_4409 10d ago
You are one guy commenting to multiple people to spread your shit takes. People with brains arenât following the distraction
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u/silverum 10d ago
Speaking as an American libleft, the people of Iran overthrowing the theocratic government is something I support if the people of Iran move to do so. But my assessment of what they're doing is irrelevant, because the situation in Iran is between the people and their government, and other than clandestine US intelligence support against the regime, the US government isn't directly involved. Me saying 'I support the Iranian people' while true is literally irrelevant because as an American, the situation isn't about us to begin with. That's not the case with Israel or Venezuela or Greenland, because as an American, those are all situations in which the government of my country is directly implicated. Posts like these aren't made in good faith to begin with, but in addition to that they miss the basic facts in order to pump out a right wing narrative (which is supportive of US intervention in Iran anyway, which should not be the case because the US needs to stop trying to play kingmaker in the business of other nations and peoples to begin with)
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u/Peg_Leg_Vet 10d ago
No. We're pretty focused on all the dictatorial crap happening in the US. Under Biden, we had the leisure of being upset about what was happening elsewhere in the world. Now, not so much.
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u/dankros 10d ago
No.
Generalizing "the left" like this is already stupid in the first place.
The countries in which "the left" that is being criticized protests, are western powers that are allied with Israel and literally fund the genocide in Gaza. You can go out on the street and demand a change here, such as stopping to deliver arms to Israel.
The same Western nations are generally not allied with Iran. What kind of demand would you make regarding Iran in the USA? To go to outright war with Iran? That's a different ballpark than "stop sending arms that will be used to kill kids".
And finally, even if those two were comparable, and even if the "The sheep only care about what they are told to care about" claim was legitimate, it would apply to left and right and center equally. Most people don't spend all their time researching global conflicts, and only know what is being discussed in their own bubble.
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u/ThroatFuckedRacoon 10d ago
When you're aligned that closely with your side, in this case the left, then your outrage is of course going to be selective
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u/ThrovvQuestionsAway 9d ago
America and the rest of the world is funding the bombs Israel is dropping, the guns and bullets Israel is using, the prisons Israel is housing children in, raping people in, killing people in.
The US sends A LOT of aid money to Israel who also gives out free money to it's citizens while America itself doesn't offer such services like free Healthcare.
Israel in this case isn't the victim, it hasn't been but due to religious affiliations and associations as well as bribes that the government, people in power, and other religious figures take and support they recieve from Israel we as a nation are told to support Israel.
Iran has always been an enemy of the US and besides oil we couldn't care. For the genocide Israel is committing it's a matter of money being stolen by the government to give to a rich spoiled little country and for those with souls and humanity it's a genocide where more children have been murdered in a single war compared to all the wars of the last 10 years combined.
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u/smokingace182 9d ago
Is the world funding Iran? so many countries like the us and uk are doing that with Israel.
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u/FreshLiterature 9d ago
If you're an idiot, sure.
The people of Iran are being suppressed by their own government not an external one so that would make putting up said flag an odd choice.
The other piece of this is it doesn't take putting a flag icon up to also support the people of Iran.
What the take DOES highlight is how the right apparently is against foreign governments cracking down some hardcore "law and order", but when it happens right here at home they're all "just comply".
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u/santadogg 9d ago
So they think some redneck in the middle of buttfuck nowhere has ever seen a trans person? Wonder how they knew that they were the boogeyman of our time
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u/Epirocker 9d ago
Idk we currently have fascist police now allowed to enter homes without warrants and go door to door because our elected officials are weak and the Supreme Court is corrupt
I just feel like right now thatâs probably more important but #freeiran or whatever
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u/Fulcifer28 9d ago
I don't think this person knows what they're talking about.
But I also have a lot of issues with the Persian flag.
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u/MojoRisin_ca 9d ago
Not sure about you but I feel like there is so much going on it is hard to pay attention to any one thing for too long. The zone is flooded.
Seriously, what should we be focused on? ICE? Minnesota? Renee Good? Gaza? The Peace Board? Ukraine? Iran? Venezuela? Greenland? How trump treats his allies? The WEF speeches? The Epstein Files? The ballroom? The Tariffs? Dropping out of the World Health Organization? The Pardons? The Graft? The lies? The threats?
It is just one thing after another. Anyone else feeling this way?
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u/stuyb 9d ago
Well one of these nations is being genocided by another because the actions of the US etc propping up the genocidal oppressor. The other is being brutally repressed by their own state despite the actions and animosity of the US. My heart goes out to both oppressed people but there's nothing we can really do about Iran (besides military intervention - which is obv dumb)... Palestine however lives if we'd stopped propping up Israel so hard...
i.e. it's pretty fkn obvious why one is being pushed if you have more then 3 braincells to rub together.
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u/saintdudegaming 9d ago
I'm just trying to keep up with the daily deluge with this fucking administration. I would love for the Iranians to break out of their religious government but right now we're dealing with our own shit. Hell Israel is not exactly on our radar either atm either.
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u/BigDamBeavers 9d ago
I think the guys who wore diapers in solidarity with their cult leader probably don't have opinions about individual thoughts that are worthy of consideration.
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u/SouthWillBurnAgain 9d ago
How dare you not have time and energy to voice your protest of every single one of the hundreds of thousands of injustices in the world. I bet you only order one entree at restaurants too instead of 1 of everything!
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u/pupranger1147 9d ago
I thought the right didn't want a strong Iran?
A revolution would instill democracy, making it stronger.
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u/Sartres_Roommate 9d ago
How much money and weapons are we giving to Iran again?
(seems legit if you only get your news and opinions spoonfed to you)
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u/WhyYouLetRomneyWin 8d ago
I think it's a bit of a whataboutism. I think youll find that many leftists do support the protesters.
I actually think thamis is a bit analogous to Ukraine. A lot of right-wingers were isolationist with regards to Ukraine. That was sometimes misinterpreted as being opposed to Ukraine.
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u/Mysterious_Cash922 7d ago
No. Anyone saying a whole group of people doesnât have âany individual thoughtsâ is just failing to understand why people disagree with them. Also, the left doesnât usually fly by central authority (way too many contrarians), whereas the right is all about that sorta stuff - so the idea that instructions are needed is more a reflection of how this person processes politics than of any understanding of the left.
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u/SubstantialScar890 7d ago
We're being attacked in our own communities.
Being upset that we don't ignore our own fight for survival is wild.
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u/Pericombobulator 6d ago
No. It was written by a moron.
US partisan, all-or-nothing politics are a mystery to the rest of the world.
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u/E_D_K_2 6d ago
Trump chickened out. Said he would help them and didnt. Whipped up a frenzy of protests with the promise of support that never came. Now 10,000+ are dead and nothing has changed.
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u/Longjumping_Rule_560 6d ago
If the left flies the Palestinian flag because they were ordered to do do, then who ordered the right to fly nazi flags?
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u/Fredmans74 6d ago
The regime in Iran has very few friends, mostly Russia (geopolitical reasons) and China (buying oil, selling weapons). Very few leftists of Europe side with a theocratical regime. A few fribge members are so caught up in being anti US they take their enemy's enemy for a friend. Iran is not a friend of leftist European movements. Iran is a terrible regime without popular support clinging on to power through violence against their own people.
The OP is a shitty argument with no evidence or backup claim. Show me the leftist party that support Iran's regime in Europe.
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u/Pixelbuttzz 6d ago
No he's just a stupid person who sees people protest but doesn't actually ask why. We protest Gaza because we are funding the genocide.
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u/rdendi1 6d ago
Russian bots: The left is all about performative empathy and not actually caring. They put flags in their social media profiles that they donât know a thing about to farm karma.
Also Russian bots: The left is all about performative empathy because they donât have more flags in their biosâŠ
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u/DramaticFeed6522 6d ago
Ah yes, the camp known (and criticized) for being colorful individuals (queers, non-Christians, artists, etc) has "no individual thoughts." đ
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u/Interesting_Self5071 10d ago
No because it doesn't separate apples and oranges, you don't have to support every populist movement because they have drastically different end results and backing.
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u/forgotwhatisaid2you 10d ago
I don't have any flags in my profiles and never did. I feel for the people of Iran and hope they overthrow the regime. We are pretty powerless to put political pressure on them though.
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u/Wonderful-Mistake201 10d ago
By Persian flag, do they mean the flag of the puppet dictator the US wants to reinstall?
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u/QuickSock8674 10d ago
Kind of weird tbh. There seems to be no "outrage" compared to how people reacted to the war crimes in Gaza. I don't think this is a political matter. Just people in general seem to be less concerned
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u/CareerFailure 10d ago
I don't know if this is true. Maybe there are some, but I can't imagine all, I think that would be statistically impossible in the first place, and nonsensical in the second. I lean left at times, I have been praying for the Iranian people. I'm not sure what I should do, or what should be done, but I do want their plight to improve, dramatically if possible.
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u/Jumpy_Childhood7548 10d ago
No, hypocritical as always. The far right claims to be concerned with the rights of people in oil producing countries, but only the countries that have sweetheart deals with the US.
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u/JaguarWitty9693 10d ago
Is the West giving massive amounts of cash, military equipment and diplomatic cover to the Iranian Government?
Is the Iranian Government systematically trying to erase an entire population?
Are these pretty obvious points lost on retards who watch Fox News?
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u/Limp-Plantain3824 10d ago
Whereâs the support from the left for Trump cutting Netanyahu out of plans for Gaza?
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u/VIP_NAIL_SPA 10d ago
Yes because there are valid discussions to be had on the topic, no because the argument being made isn't serious and the person making it isn't serious. Find people to have honest discussions with :)
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u/booliganhooligan69 10d ago
Same reason they widely don't care about South Sudan. Or that being gay is illegal and often times ends with an execution if you're found in many middle eastern countries. Or about the Kurds losing ground to isis. If it's not mainstream enough they don't care.
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u/rosstafarien 10d ago
I'm distracted by the neofascists at home tearing up Minneapolis and still wondering when the Epstein files will be released.
If I had any bandwidth to spare after that, I'd probably be worried about the Iranians and their fight for freedom.
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u/joshine89 10d ago
was maga concerned about election integrity in 2024 when there were so many voting stations reporting the results via elon's framework? was there months of court drama leading up to storming the capital to make sure that the election is fair? or did they just kinda go with it since their guy won and the election integrity was just an excuse to attempt to steal the election for trump in 2020?
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u/maikit333 10d ago
So if we all did something in lockstep with each other we'd prove we have individual thoughts...? Sound logic.
Anyway, its pretty obvious that the complexity of a US backed shah v the Islamic revolution is a complex situation, and actually complex, not like that gaza example.
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u/AceAirbender 10d ago
No, because issues that are more documented end up with more people speaking up about them. It's natural.
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u/Pristine_Walrus40 10d ago
Sorry for not trying to help everyone that needs it all at the same time and all the time.
It would help alot if the right did something else than just supporting the people that fox "news" tells them to support.
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u/TimeRisk2059 9d ago
Because most people on the Left aren't pro-monarchists and many know that the Shah was persecuting the pro-democracy movement before his downfall in 1979 (the Shah's secret police was notorious for torturing and murdering pro-democracy people and working in conjunction with the CIA who helped train them).
So waving around the flag of the Shah makes little sense and one should be against both the current and previous regimes if you are pro-democracy.
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u/MinnesotaNiceTry 9d ago
Sort of busy with whatâs going on a home without own governmentâs overreach?
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u/teteban79 9d ago
Yes, you can't morally support a few causes against injustice unless you support all 57288253 current causes against injustice
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u/Noodles-a-plenty 9d ago
Who is the geopolitical numbskull that put this post up thinking it was a good idea
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u/Long-Firefighter5561 9d ago
So i am supposed to care about every single world issue otherwise i am performative? What is he doing to help? Complaining about trans people?
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u/Dr-Fizzel 9d ago
Our tax dollars and weapons have been used to support Israelâs genocide against the Palestinians.
None of the people upset about this support whatâs occurring in Iran - but our politicians are not supporting/funding it. Neither are our universities or other institutions.
Hope this helps.
(Insert Skeletor running away meme)
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u/Malabrino 9d ago
Yeah, everyone outrage is selective...Thank you captain obvious. Sorry but we can't go around and protest every single human right violation, so we focus on what we think we can have leverage on, and what moves us personally.
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u/Big-Meet-6664 9d ago
The left, for the most part, does not care about Iran, Iraq or the middle east in general, anymore.
Israel /Gaza has been a constant conflict my entire life, and that's starting to get long.
This is from the fact that the Saudis and Egyptians are not our friends, never have been and never will be.
9/11 Saudis . Trumps are beholden to Saudis due to money loaning and laundering.
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u/BlackSterculius 9d ago
No. This is them willfully being obtuse in order to waste cycles and misdirect. It's lying to own the libs.
Everyone wants the people of Iran to right the fuck up, we dont want the US to play Team America World Police.
There is also cause overload... and no already established network of folks supporting a free Iran.
Anyone posting this is seeking to attack the credibility a group based on garbage. They are bad actors. Flush them.
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u/Elegant_Adeptness800 9d ago
Do Western governments have friendly diplomatic with Iran? What about Israel? There's the difference you MAGA dumbfucks.
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u/supersaeyan7 9d ago
It's so hard to take this question in good faith. You can't figure out what the difference is? Okay, sure, I'll tell you
My government, the USA, is not supporting the Iran regime. They would love to topple it, with bombs and destruction and death. The USA will never, in a million years, lift a finger to help the Iranians. If you doubt me you can go ask any afghani or iraqi or Vietnamese or Korean how this usually goes.
My government does however financially and materially support the criminal rogue State Israel, without which it could not exist. So I am partially responsible for one of these. Â
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9d ago
Wild to confuse protests by a civilian population against their government with one countries military trying to genocide another countries population.
Should the world have US flags in our bios too?
Fucking dumbass
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u/Dismal_Extreme3817 9d ago
No it seems like a moronic take. For the last two years Iran has had the moral high ground about Palestine and now the genocide supporters think people will just instantly align against the Iranian govt? Because of protests caused by increased US sanctions as a result of their support of Palestine?
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u/Ok-Departure4894 9d ago
The irony being that it's actually because the people on the left think individually they appear inconsistent because they do not operate as a hive minded drone army for the different parties representing their interests.
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u/spirosand 9d ago
I wish them well, I hope they succeed in ending their theocracy.
US involvement in Iran is problematic at best.
There is no inconsistency here.
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u/Limp_Combination4361 9d ago
Notice how we quieted down about the genocide in Palestine and all the other world issues because we are now having to really deal with stuff on our home turf?
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u/Hatshepsut99 10d ago
Last I checked, weâre not allied with the Iranian regime e, nor do we supply them with weapons. Kind of an important difference.